Stephen Curry as the "face of the NBA" will be an absolute joke

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Op is not a Knicks fan I ain't never seen him in our thread

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Op is not a Knicks fan I ain't never seen him in our thread

He has been, but just not under that screen name

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

He has been, but just not under that screen name

Who is it?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Who is it?

I won't blow their cover. Let's see how long they can get away with it.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

I won't blow their cover. Let's see how long they can get away with it.

 

[Recca Gatsby]

He Cute

 

[Stack Money]

so I'm Davis stan now? when did I say Davis is better than Rose?

I was replying to this thread without reading any post beside the first one and you negged me out of the blue, and I'm the one who got butthurt by your comments?

You got some issue man

You still replyin to me? I pointed it out in that post you said former MVP Rose has to make the Finals before "reachin that level" yet said you'd put Davis over him when he JUST reached the playoffs this year and got swept, and then you bytched at me for highlightin that Davis hasn't accomplished anythin yet even tho you downplayed Rose's accomplishments so that makes me think you on Davis dikk. I was readin the thread saw your post and negged you for the Rose slight (you ain't special I neg people when I see them say wack shyt which is what the feature is for) you replied to me out of the blue just to cry cause I negged you and you couldn't neg me back then you started whinin about my comments hell you still keep cryin to me about what I said so yes you the one thats butthurt. You got some issues not even bein able to remember what you said in here. Now dry your tears and run along kid, you're dismissed.

 

[rapbeats]

are you delusional
I can't believe that shyt you just wrote


first & formal
I love the way you ignore the teammates issue from your original post you explained how Curry has taken his team to the NBA finals and about to win a chip at this young age blah blah blah while shytting on Iverson like he couldn't do what Curry is doing now but then when I post Iverson's teammates from when he took his team to the NBA 01's finals -you say nothing which proves my point that you're OP made no sense
AI never had the ability to play with the talent that curry has

secondly
and what the hell are you talking about that he didn't play under da hand check rule
from what I remember the hand check was abolished in the mid 00's he was drafted in 96 so he played roughly / close to a decade under those rules
you need to stop that bullshyt about curry is getting hand check now in today's NBA finals because you know if you breathe on him they will call a foul

lastly
you must be trolling or really never watch Iverson play to say curry is a better defender especially based in it off curry being an inch taller I mean that is just asinine because we all know and this is not even debatable that AI was utterly a far superior athlete who could jump higher was faster was quicker and more endurance etc. etc.

there was the hand check rule(derek harper) that stopped in the 90's. they changed it to the arm bar. meaning technically speaking you were not allowed to derek harper put your hand on a guy and literally guide him with your outstretched hand. in the mid to late 90's. you could get up on a perimeter guy and put your forearm on him and use that so you can move with him . its still worse than it is now. but no where near as bad as that derek harper super hacking handcheck.



you probably dont even realize the reason the rules are so soft now are due to mark cuban complaining after what he saw happen to kobe vs the pistons(the sheed and wallace pistons). but it backfired on cuban when Dwade became d-whistle(you remember those finals).

so cuban even knew then that detroit was more or less hacking their way to a championship. .

cuban's own blog: http://blogmaverick.com/2009/02/04/if-its-not-broke-doesnt-mean-its-optimal-even-in-the-nba/

So a few years ago, Im watching the Pistons beat the Lakers in the Finals. I’m seeing Larry Brown’s Pistons fully take advantage of the rules. It was impossible to stay in front of Kobe. He could get anywhere he wanted on the court. The Pistons knew it as well. So every time he tried to get to the basket, they would body up and bump him. The officials did just as they were supposed to. Since Kobe had the advantage on the defender, they didn’t call a foul. However that little bump slowed Kobe down just enough that it gave Ben Wallace a split second more to on a pre rotation to the Paint, to be in a better position to defend the basket. Kobe still scored, but not quite as often as he may have otherwise.

At that point it dawned on me that the concept of playing the advantage in a one on one matchup had nothing to do with which TEAM gained the advantage. After all, its the team that scores the most points that wins. Detroit had a brilliant strategy and was playing it to perfection. After the finals, I sat down with the league and discussed with them the difference between player and team advantage. The discussion lead to changing the rules so that perimeter contact was called far more often

So back to the discussion.

I already talked about AI's teammates not being as good on offense as Curry's teammates. i still say SO WHAT. i'm trying to tell you that AI couldnt play with a guy like Klay. a guy that needs a bunch of touches in order to get in rhythm and stay their. he couldnt play alongside a shaq type dominant big that needed a ton of touches. because the only way AI was going to drop his 30's is if he had the ultra green light to chuck. AI would be a 20 ppg scorer with another dominant player next to him. thats again because AI was not a good shooter. he was a VOLUME shooter. he had great stamina and could take the punishment of being hit by much bigger guys while going to the rack. but lets be clear AI was a volume chucker at its purest form. no more and no less. You will never ever win a ring with a short shooting guard like AI.

curry on the other hand is different. he's not as small. and he can shoot so well no matter his teammates(you saw him in college on a lesser team blazing better teams. how did he do that with lesser talent? his shooting and ball handling is that good.)

 

[rapbeats]

For someone that vehemently campaigns for the past, I'm pleasantly surprised by this post.

you must not understand my post. i talk about the present vs the past but i'm talking about soft rule changes that have created soft and less skilled players.

players now have better/sexier handles. guys shoot more 3's it seems so everyone from top to bottom can shoot better then in decades past. But with that said. most are afraid to get on the block and post up a smaller guy from pg to center. thats why i love what livingston is doing to these smaller guards.

curry is one of a small selection of guys that could play in any era and he would be just as dominant. you know why? his skill is on another level. his skill is up their with bird, magic, jordan, kobe. notice i didnt mention bron.

bron's skill isnt on those guys level. his DNA is. which gives you a giant monster that can run and jump like jordan. a guy that has the ability to finish with either hand(this i give him props for). but his skills are not out of this world. in the beginning jordan's skills were not out of this world. his abilities and desire to win were.

put it this way. if you zapped certain guys of their ridiculous height or athleticism. some guys would still be allstars. others not.

you take away curry's athleticism. he's still steph curry. same with prime nash. westbrook... nope... bron? nope. you take away Kd's ridiculous height and athleticism.. nope

derek rose? nope

kobe? YEP, he would still drop 20 a night with little athleticism.

early jordan? no
later jordan? YES

but because of the rule changes and some of these freaks athleticism plus their sizes = easy work. when it comes to scoring.

 

[rapbeats]

you do realize curry was doing this in college when he had a much lesser group of teammates. he did it vs a better team in Oklahoma(blake griffin's old squad).

curry put up the numbers on them too.



curry dropped 44 in college vs a better team that was denying him the ball and trapping him . didnt matter. he's the same guy. nothing has changed. you gone get this work regardless. AI was AI in gtown. the difference was. AI's shot selection was suspect at gtown and was exactly the same in a Philly jersey.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

you take away curry's athleticism. he's still steph curry. same with prime nash. westbrook... nope... bron? nope. you take away Kd's ridiculous height and athleticism.. nope.

I agree with the premise of your post except for this -

KD's dominance would translate over to any era and given his ever-expanding skillset it'll extend past his athletic decline - in similar vein to Nowitzki.

 

[kingofnyc]

at this nonsense.

still mad i right & ur wrong bout that bron non slid foul

 

[kingofnyc]

there was the hand check rule(derek harper) that stopped in the 90's. they changed it to the arm bar. meaning technically speaking you were not allowed to derek harper put your hand on a guy and literally guide him with your outstretched hand. in the mid to late 90's. you could get up on a perimeter guy and put your forearm on him and use that so you can move with him . its still worse than it is now. but no where near as bad as that derek harper super hacking handcheck.



you probably dont even realize the reason the rules are so soft now are due to mark cuban complaining after what he saw happen to kobe vs the pistons(the sheed and wallace pistons). but it backfired on cuban when Dwade became d-whistle(you remember those finals).

so cuban even knew then that detroit was more or less hacking their way to a championship. .

cuban's own blog: http://blogmaverick.com/2009/02/04/if-its-not-broke-doesnt-mean-its-optimal-even-in-the-nba/


So back to the discussion.

I already talked about AI's teammates not being as good on offense as Curry's teammates. i still say SO WHAT. i'm trying to tell you that AI couldnt play with a guy like Klay. a guy that needs a bunch of touches in order to get in rhythm and stay their. he couldnt play alongside a shaq type dominant big that needed a ton of touches. because the only way AI was going to drop his 30's is if he had the ultra green light to chuck. AI would be a 20 ppg scorer with another dominant player next to him. thats again because AI was not a good shooter. he was a VOLUME shooter. he had great stamina and could take the punishment of being hit by much bigger guys while going to the rack. but lets be clear AI was a volume chucker at its purest form. no more and no less. You will never ever win a ring with a short shooting guard like AI.

curry on the other hand is different. he's not as small. and he can shoot so well no matter his teammates(you saw him in college on a lesser team blazing better teams. how did he do that with lesser talent? his shooting and ball handling is that good.)

http://www.sportingcharts.com/dictionary/nba/hand-checking.aspx


hand check rule took place at the beginning of the '04 season which AGAIN & i'll REPEAT means AI played bout a decade under those rules

why are u arguing this ??? The question is whether or not curry could play or rather be affected under those rukes and in my opinion I don't think so I don't think he strong enough or fast enough to overcome it • and that's not just a shot at Curry that's my opinion on the vast majority of this current era of perimeter players


and as far as AI not being able to play with another great offensive player is just your poor opinion because his first complete year in Denver him and melo both averaged 26 points per game -which AGAIN shows u dont know what da hell ur talking bout

if ue a curry stan then good 4 u
but please STOP ur AI hate -cause u just make yourself sound more n more like a fool

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

dont need stats my nikka!
i seen with my eyes


a well rested curry at home with his wifey & riley couldnt fukkz with AI after a longgggg night of partyyyyy n bullshytttttt

So what you really mean is that you don't have a counter argument and are just going to shout a bunch of rhetoric. Curry shoots higher from deep than AI did from the field. He also gets far more assists. AI was also a poor defender despite his ability to jump the passing lane. You can't be a quality defender at 6 feet tall and 165 pounds.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Y'all who keep having issues with HM being light are fukking stupid, conditioned to have issues with your own people because of color...idiots.