Steph Curry right now is better than Kobe ever was

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Right now hes better than lebron ever was :russ:

I don't know about that. Lebron from 2008-2013 had an outsized impact on both ends of the floor. The problem for Lebron is that his game wasn't as aesthetically appealing as a curry or kobe so despite racking up stats and MVP's, a lot of people don't fully appreciate how insane his workload was.
 

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I can't remember what page it was on so I could easily quote it and answer like that, but a nikka lazy as hell breh.

Off top, u said Curry never faced defenses that could lock in on him. Yet, Curry has literally changed how defense needs to be played and EASILY gets more defensive attention than anyone since MJ. This shyt ain't even questionable.

U said Curry gets most his points off 3's and assists :pachaha:meaning u clearly don't watch basketball. THE nikka IS SHOOTING THE 2ND HIGHEST % IN THE PAINT FOR EVERYBODY, NOT JUST GUARDS. Please think about that for a minute. Also only assisted on something like 26% of his buckets. U said some other shyt that I don't feel like looking back at. It's all good though breh :yeshrug:. Everybody can't be b ball geniuses like @DetroitEWarren and @Gil Scott-Heroin :shaq:

Ok, breh. Good points made.

I don't watch statistics though just the game and I see him shooting way too many wide open 3s and basically driving down open lanes and making uncontested scoop shots or backdoor layups cause teams are falling asleep on him.

Mainly it's just warriors coaching good team chemistry and execution helping curry.

Yea teams are focusing on him more than anyone else shy of jordan but they still can't neglect the other 3 Allstars 2 of which are are better than curry any given night. Klay is nearly as good of a shooter as Curry and Draymond is arguably the most important piece on the team... and then theres IGGY. Saying having those players around curry dont help him or is like saying Pippen and Rodman didnt help Jordan,

and Curry is NO Jordan.

Teams cant focus their whole defensive on stopping curry cause unlike Jordans Bulls in the late 80s-early-90's Curry has help.

And that's why curry and draymond are having record breaking seasons and klay is shooting better than anyone not named curry. Its all one big cycle. Team basketball. Iggy and Barnes and all the other warriors role players are there to do what they do.

Iverson had none of this, except mutumbo who couldnt even score.

All I'm saying is AI didn't have those type of teammates to lessen his load or occupy defenses from focusing only on him; Trying to stop just him.

I argue Iverson saw as much attention as curry and was the only major scoring option because he had no other "real" all stars playing alongside him in philly whereas curry has 2-3 every night

Still Iverson scored more and assisted as much as curry. And he did it for 3-4 seasons against all the hall of farmers still playing today except they were in their primes.

On top of that he scored despite not having or relying on a 3 point shot.

He got his buckets the hard way.

Not to take away from curry for having a better shot and teammates to set him up but that alone seperates the two.

Iverson scored more ways than curry.

I like to think if curry wasn't able to shoot threes he'd struggle to average 30, but AI would still get it from breaking defenders down scoring anyway possible and getting to the line.

Curry couldn't do this cause he's way more soft and not quick as AI, doesn't have the same handles and even though much taller he plays below the rim.

AI was just a different breed. It's hard to even compare them or the two eras

He played in a more physical era and just a game with a different mentality.

I don't think curry could do what he's doing now years ago with iversons sixers.

Until I see curry do what he's doing for a FULL season and do it again...

Iverson>Curry

Kobe>Curry as well obviously
 
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Ok, breh. Good points made.

I don't watch statistics though just the game and I see him shooting way too many wide open 3s and basically driving down open lanes and making uncontested scoop shots or backdoor layups cause teams are falling asleep on him.

Mainly it's just warriors coaching good team chemistry and execution helping curry.

Yea teams are focusing on him more than ever but they still can't neglect the other 3 Allstars 2 of which are are better than curry any given night.

And they don't that's why curry and draymond are having record breaking seasons and klay is shooting better than anyone not named curry.

I'm saying AI didn't have those type of teammates to lessen his load or occupy defenses from guarding him.
I argue Iverson saw as much attention as curry and was the only major scoring option whereas curry has 2-3 every night

Still Iverson scored more and assisted as much as curry. And he did it for 3-4 seasons against all the hall of farmers still playing today except they were in their primes.

On top of that he scored despite not having or relying on a 3 point shot.

He got his buckets the hard way.

Not to take away from curry for having a better shot and teammates to set him up but that alone seperates the two.

Iverson scored more ways than curry.

I like to think if curry wasn't able to shoot threes he'd struggle to average 30, but AI would still get it from breaking defenders down scoring anyway possible and getting to the line.

Curry couldn't do this cause he's way more soft and not quick as AI, doesn't have the same handles and even though much taller he plays below the rim.

AI was just a different breed. It's hard to even compare them or the two eras

He played in a more physical era and just a game with a different mentality.

I don't think curry could do what he's doing now years ago with iversons sixers.

Until I see curry do what he's doing for a FULL season and do it again...

Iverson>Curry

Kobe>Curry as well obviously
So you're saying he was better because he took harder shots? That his 30 is more impressive since he got it inefficiently and had no 3 point shot? -10
 

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Ok, breh. Good points made.

I don't watch statistics though just the game and I see him shooting way too many wide open 3s and basically driving down open lanes and making uncontested scoop shots or backdoor layups cause teams are falling asleep on him.

Mainly it's just warriors coaching good team chemistry and execution helping curry.

Yea teams are focusing on him more than anyone else shy of jordan but they still can't neglect the other 3 Allstars 2 of which are are better than curry any given night. Klay is nearly as good of a shooter as Curry and Draymond is arguably the most important piece on the team... and then theres IGGY. Saying having those players around curry dont help him or is like saying Pippen and Rodman didnt help Jordan,

and Curry is NO Jordan.

Teams cant focus their whole defensive on stopping curry cause unlike Jordans Bulls in the late 80s-early-90's Curry has help.

And that's why curry and draymond are having record breaking seasons and klay is shooting better than anyone not named curry. Its all one big cycle. Team basketball. Iggy and Barnes and all the other warriors role players are there to do what they do.

Iverson had none of this, except mutumbo who couldnt even score.

All I'm saying is AI didn't have those type of teammates to lessen his load or occupy defenses from focusing only on him; Trying to stop just him.

I argue Iverson saw as much attention as curry and was the only major scoring option because he had no other "real" all stars playing alongside him in philly whereas curry has 2-3 every night

Still Iverson scored more and assisted as much as curry. And he did it for 3-4 seasons against all the hall of farmers still playing today except they were in their primes.

On top of that he scored despite not having or relying on a 3 point shot.

He got his buckets the hard way.

Not to take away from curry for having a better shot and teammates to set him up but that alone seperates the two.

Iverson scored more ways than curry.

I like to think if curry wasn't able to shoot threes he'd struggle to average 30, but AI would still get it from breaking defenders down scoring anyway possible and getting to the line.

Curry couldn't do this cause he's way more soft and not quick as AI, doesn't have the same handles and even though much taller he plays below the rim.

AI was just a different breed. It's hard to even compare them or the two eras

He played in a more physical era and just a game with a different mentality.

I don't think curry could do what he's doing now years ago with iversons sixers.

Until I see curry do what he's doing for a FULL season and do it again...

Iverson>Curry

Kobe>Curry as well obviously

So you're saying he was better because he took harder shots? That his 30 is more impressive since he got it inefficiently and had no 3 point shot? -10

no im saying he took harder shots cause he was the only option and put the team on his back literally every night for season after season. His 30+ points (and 7+ assists) is more impressive because he did it alone mostly on Isos in a better era, facing better competition and scored it in a more dynamic and balanced way. Not primarily off open three pointers, pick and roll and all around good team play.

Again I cant fault Curry for not having an amazing 3 point shot or great teammates but some of yall need to understand how Curry is doing right now. And it doesnt make him the GOAT. Especially since its only 1/2 of 1 season.

Iverson put up 2016 curry like numbers for half his career. Who cares if he shot less efficient. I dont care personally. But if it really matters, that's the only criticism you can give him.
 
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Ok, breh. Good points made.

I don't watch statistics though just the game and I see him shooting way too many wide open 3s and basically driving down open lanes and making uncontested scoop shots or backdoor layups cause teams are falling asleep on him.

Mainly it's just warriors coaching good team chemistry and execution helping curry.

Yea teams are focusing on him more than anyone else shy of jordan but they still can't neglect the other 3 Allstars 2 of which are are better than curry any given night. Klay is nearly as good of a shooter as Curry and Draymond is arguably the most important piece on the team... and then theres IGGY. Saying having those players around curry dont help him or is like saying Pippen and Rodman didnt help Jordan,

and Curry is NO Jordan.

Teams cant focus their whole defensive on stopping curry cause unlike Jordans Bulls in the late 80s-early-90's Curry has help.

And that's why curry and draymond are having record breaking seasons and klay is shooting better than anyone not named curry. Its all one big cycle. Team basketball. Iggy and Barnes and all the other warriors role players are there to do what they do.

Iverson had none of this, except mutumbo who couldnt even score.

All I'm saying is AI didn't have those type of teammates to lessen his load or occupy defenses from focusing only on him; Trying to stop just him.

I argue Iverson saw as much attention as curry and was the only major scoring option because he had no other "real" all stars playing alongside him in philly whereas curry has 2-3 every night

Still Iverson scored more and assisted as much as curry. And he did it for 3-4 seasons against all the hall of farmers still playing today except they were in their primes.

On top of that he scored despite not having or relying on a 3 point shot.

He got his buckets the hard way.

Not to take away from curry for having a better shot and teammates to set him up but that alone seperates the two.

Iverson scored more ways than curry.

I like to think if curry wasn't able to shoot threes he'd struggle to average 30, but AI would still get it from breaking defenders down scoring anyway possible and getting to the line.

Curry couldn't do this cause he's way more soft and not quick as AI, doesn't have the same handles and even though much taller he plays below the rim.

AI was just a different breed. It's hard to even compare them or the two eras

He played in a more physical era and just a game with a different mentality.

I don't think curry could do what he's doing now years ago with iversons sixers.

Until I see curry do what he's doing for a FULL season and do it again...

Iverson>Curry

Kobe>Curry as well obviously
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The sad thing is that you actually believe all this.
 
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no im saying he took harder shots cause he was the only option and put the team on his back literally every night for season after season. His 30+ points (and 7+ assists) is more impressive because he did it alone mostly on Isos in a better era, facing better competition and scored it in a more dynamic and balanced way. Not primarily off open three pointers, pick and roll and all around good team play.

Again I cant fault Curry for not having an amazing 3 point shot or great teammates but some of yall need to understand how Curry is doing right now. And it doesnt make him the GOAT. Especially since its only 1/2 of 1 season.

Iverson put up 2016 curry like numbers for half his career. Who cares if he shot less efficient. I dont care personally. But if it really matters, that's the only criticism you can give him.
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no im saying he took harder shots cause he was the only option and put the team on his back literally every night for season after season. His 30+ points (and 7+ assists) is more impressive because he did it alone mostly on Isos in a better era, facing better competition and scored it in a more dynamic and balanced way. Not primarily off open three pointers, pick and roll and all around good team play.

Again I cant fault Curry for not having an amazing 3 point shot or great teammates but some of yall need to understand how Curry is doing right now. And it doesnt make him the GOAT. Especially since its only 1/2 of 1 season.

Iverson put up 2016 curry like numbers for half his career. Who cares if he shot less efficient. I dont care personally. But if it really matters, that's the only criticism you can give him.
Bolded = #WPOY2016
Underlined = Yet here you are arguing just that

Scoring 31 points a game with 5 assists while shooting 38-41% from the field and 29% from deep :hula:30 points, 6 boards, and 6 assists while shooting 50% from the field and 45% from deep on 11 3 pointers a night with most of his shots being off the dribble.
 

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Bolded = #WPOY2016
Underlined = Yet here you are arguing just that

Scoring 31 points a game with 5 assists while shooting 38-41% from the field and 29% from deep :hula:30 points, 6 boards, and 6 assists while shooting 50% from the field and 45% from deep on 11 3 pointers a night with most of his shots being off the dribble.

One put up those numbers with no help just heart and mainly midrange jumpshots, breaking ankle driving to the paint taking a beating and getting up again for 4 years straight. The other has 3 All Stars playing alongside him who can score and a whole team giving pick and roll all day and just great team play overall chemistry - Mind you hes putting up these numbers for only HALF a season. but you cant see the difference between the two players and the problem comparing them in this way.
 

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One put up those numbers with no help just heart and mainly midrange jumpshots, breaking ankle driving to the paint taking a beating and getting up again for 4 years straight. The other has 3 All Stars playing alongside him who can score and a whole team giving pick and roll all day and just great team play overall chemistry - Mind you hes putting up these numbers for only HALF a season. but you cant see the difference between the two players and the problem comparing them in this way.
It's like you're actively trying to win the WOAT. Slow down buddy. There's 11 months to go
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
We're in 2016 and dudes still can't see how much impact Curry has on the offensive end. :mjlol:


You got dudes like @Jplaya2023 talking about the "rules favor" Curry, when AI played with the same fukking rules :dead:



Dudes really have idea what the fukk it is they're watching.
 
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