Sounds like the problem are African Americans and Hispanics in Chicago and not the surrounding lax gun laws. If it were the latter, the surrounding areas would be mired by gun violence too, no?
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States With Most Gun Laws Have Fewest Gun Deaths, Study Finds
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Sounds like the problem are African Americans and Hispanics in Chicago and not the surrounding lax gun laws. If it were the latter, the surrounding areas would be mired by gun violence too, no?
Poverty begets violence. Large city areas always have more crime than rural areas. The lax gun laws allow guns to be cheap and plentiful. More strict gun laws would raise the price of guns and make them harder to get. This won't stop violence in large cities, but it would curb gun violence. Ultimately these cities need to concentrate on economic opportunity as well as gun control in order to reduce violence.
But cities like Chicago are only half the story. All of America's problems with guns can't be boiled inner city violence. Guns deaths are more likely to be from suicide or crimes of passion than they are from gang wars in Chicago.
I can't verify your last sentence as I'm not familiar with the statistics. However, I disagree with your first sentence. I've been through rural Wisconsin(surrounding Chicago area) - mostly poor people. Guns there are ubiquitous and I've been out hunting venison with these poor working class types. So I think it has less to do with poverty than it does an inner city violent gun culture of sorts.
That being said, I would hope the NRA would come out in support of strengthening gun laws(not sure if they have or not). Not because lax gun laws are a problem unto itself, but to protect the rights of those legal Wisconsin gun owner types. Their gun culture shouldn't be stifled because of some knucklehead in aurora or Chicago.
Working class people in Wisconsin aren't poor. You keep trying to make this a racial thing as if whites aren't shooting people, but in reality more gun deaths are perpetrated by white folks than any body else. What should we do to adress those deaths?
I lived in Wisconsin when I was younger. The majority are poor to working class types. I also lived in inner city New York. The difference between the two boils down to country music and a harder work ethic. Both still poor.
As for the rest. I can't verify those statistics, perhaps you can edify me. I'll just say that I never had to worry about gun violence in Wisconsin - as ubiquitous as guns are even compared to inner cities. The problem is definitely more cultural. If that offends, I honestly don't care.
Nah I don't think your a racist, just severely misinformed like most Americans. The difference between New York and Wisconsin is not country music. It's economic opportunity. In New York you have a bunch of poor people living on top of each other fighting over scraps. In Wisconsin while the they are not "rich" they do have an opportunity to make a living for themselves. There are jobs/farming/hunting in the community. In New York there is nothing but starving people. Your idea that its cultural fails because for one none of these behaviors or statistics are directly tied to race. Inner city white kids in Chicago do just as much crime as blacks. And rural blacks do just as much peaceful hunting as white folks.
Here is a map of gun violence in America
Rural states actually have more deaths by guns than those considered "urban" Alaska is the worst and it doesn't get any more white/rural than that. How do you explain this? I thought American gun problems were just in Chicago with the blacks and Latinos? Also notice the most violent states are republican states with lax gun laws, I wonder why that is
Nah I don't think your a racist, just severely misinformed like most Americans. The difference between New York and Wisconsin is not country music. It's economic opportunity. In New York you have a bunch of poor people living on top of each other fighting over scraps. In Wisconsin while the they are not "rich" they do have an opportunity to make a living for themselves. There are jobs/farming/hunting in the community. In New York there is nothing but starving people. Your idea that its cultural fails because for one none of these behaviors or statistics are directly tied to race. Inner city white kids in Chicago do just as much crime as blacks. And rural blacks do just as much peaceful hunting as white folks.
Here is a map of gun violence in America
Rural states actually have more deaths by guns than those considered "urban" Alaska is the worst and it doesn't get any more white/rural than that. How do you explain this? I thought American gun problems were just in Chicago with the blacks and Latinos? Also notice the most violent states are republican states with lax gun laws, I wonder why that is
You're being a bit hyperbolic. New York being nothing but starving people? We were as poor in NYC and our quality of life wasn't much different. The problem in NYC is scale - where you have higher class people living next to lower class. This is probably where this inner city violent culture of sorts stems from. When everyone is poor or working class like Wisconsin then the notion of class and the psychological burden of seeing economic disparity every day probably means you can go on about your life in a more calmer way. So yeah it's definitely cultural in that sense.
I like the map but it leaves a lot to be desired. I'll see if I can find more context because I truly want to be edified.
Inner city New York. Just like most inner cities in America. Is overcrowded with a lack of economic opportunity. Other than downtown highly educated jobs there just aren't any economic opportunities in the city. Any time you have a dense population of people competing for limited resources violence will be a factor. In rural areas there is more space and opportunity. a person can start a farm, there are factory jobs, you can make a living doing landscaping or carpentry, they can go hunting/fishing to supplement their income, you can make a living doing something as simple as selling fire wood. People in the inner city have none of these opportunities so they turn to crime in order to feed themselves. Most crime is economic based, people aren't robbing each other cause its fun, they're robbing each other because they are hungry.
What's wrong with the map? What context is missing?
If anything it proves that gun violence is more than just a "blacks and Latins in Chicago" problem, it is an American problem.
My position is coming from my position. What is the the real issue here than Real?
Economic opportunity is literally within walking distance in NYC. The inner city problem in NYC is largely cultural... I will get more into this later.
Yep... its not all pretty, but its out there. Fresh Direct's delivery arm is booming, security jobs, maintenance jobs, etc.so there's open jobs just siting around and nobody is taking them?
But I would stay home too, if I could live comfortably off of the gov't. "1st and 15th" isn't just something rappers made up
That's some stupid shyt that I'm tired of hearing from people. Ain't nobody living comfortably off $200 in food stamps. Well off people get millions of dollars in goverment money, they are the ones living comfortably off gov money.
What are you defining as well off, and what % of them are getting millions from the govt?
And by definition, if you aren't looking for better opportunities, you're comfortable.
nikka stop with the games. You know billions of dollars go elsewhere while inner city kids starve and fight over scraps. fukk all that other shyt you talking about.