Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker spoiler discussion thread

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Posted this in the other Thread. However, I will add it in here for posterity.
Rey: The great devour-er. A defiler of extreme proportions its borders the sadistic. Introduced to much fanfare, our primary protagonist represented a new take on SW. A young female lead to inspire a new generation and entice the fairer sex. Throughout the various movies her character was marred with accusations of Mary Sue, female Anakin, Clone etc. Yet, none of these hold a candle to her actions and implications within the story. For starters she is the daughter / descendant of Emperor Palpatine. The man whose mere presence caused galactic terror and a particular menace to the Skywalker family. After all it was he who poisoned Anakin's mind. Equally extending the same offer to his son. Torturing both in the proceeds. In this film, Rey is shown flirting with the inherent Dark Side that resides in her father/ancestor. Its execution coming of masterfully and giving us great expectation of what was to come. However, as typical of Disney she reverts back to the good in her..

Fighting to fend off the rage which resided in her. There's one incident in which she decides to become Jesus. Gaining the capacity to heal her opponents not as a result of studying Jedi text. Nope, she simply wills herself to do so. O_O!! Ok. For the sake of expounding on Kylo, I will skip on her relationship and interaction with him and jump right to the final battle. No need to beat around the bush. Rey a fledgling Jedi whose inexperience isn't worth calling her Apprentice puts down Darth Sidious. Arguably the greatest SW cinematic villain. A man whose canonical legend portrays him as a galactic menace capable of fending off Grandsmasters. Let that statement sit and marinate. However, for the casual fan, allow me to refresh your memory. There once existed a young Jedi turned Sith Lord called Anakin. Whose purpose in the narrative was to restore balance in the galaxy. A destiny he accomplished by sacrificing himself to thwart Sidious. In turn fulfilling said prophesy. It was through his sacrifice for his son that we experienced the extent of his character. To have Sidious appear and be wiped out by Rey undermines his actions. Infact it potrays him as mere fool who temporarily impeded the Sith Lord's plans. Plans which over time developed into creating an Empire for his daughter to inherit. Plans which included manipulating Anakin's grandson into becoming a pawn. Speaking of which .......


Kylo: The single most tragic character in the history of the SW cinema. In this film he starts of as the Lord of a fleet. Yet, his actions and leadership neither inspires nor motivates. Instead it sows seeds of distrust and disinterest among his troops. A factor exacerbated by his fanatical desire to be Vader. Which dwarfs him from more immediate responsibilities, you know like training. Becoming a better duelist, training your Dark Side. Just the regular attributes that made Vader a truly fearsome man. Nonetheless, Kylo winds up meeting Palpatine. And considering his emotional vulnerabilities, its no wonder he recruits him to his cause. For the rest of the movie, Kylo becomes a Galatic policeman chasing for Rey. There's some fights here and there. However, its upon their final confrontation where Rey thwarts him. Piercing his chest and defating him in what thematically serves as the movies hint that she's surpassed him. Had he died here, it would have been a mercy. Instead Space Jesus Rey heals him to health and leaves him to his means. Battered, Shamed and Wounded Kylo is approached by his father who convinced him to switch to the light side. In comes Ben out with Kylo. When he reappears once more its to assist Rey.

By now we learn that Palapatine never had any intentions to pass his knowledge and fleet to him. Another cruel revelation which serves to show he was merely a pawn. Not even his own faction gave him the seriousness he deserved. As expected his character is once again sidelined to give way to the Father vs Daughter dynamic in the narrative. That's a fancy way of saying he dies. Rey proceeds to get the glory of victory and picks up his grandfathers and mothers lightsabers. Please don't argue semantics and claim she threw them away. At the end of the day she used parts from both Anakin and Leia to craft her saber. And as final nail to the cofine. The great defiler decided to assume the name Skywalker. A spat to both this man and his family. The daughter of your families enemy is now plying of as one of you. And he accomplished the very thing you couldn't. Become a symbol greater than your grandfather. fukkING LOL
 

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Posted this in the other Thread. However, I will add it in here for posterity.
Rey: The great devour-er. A defiler of extreme proportions its borders the sadistic. Introduced to much fanfare, our primary protagonist represented a new take on SW. A young female lead to inspire a new generation and entice the fairer sex. Throughout the various movies her character was marred with accusations of Mary Sue, female Anakin, Clone etc. Yet, none of these hold a candle to her actions and implications within the story. For starters she is the daughter / descendant of Emperor Palpatine. The man whose mere presence caused galactic terror and a particular menace to the Skywalker family. After all it was he who poisoned Anakin's mind. Equally extending the same offer to his son. Torturing both in the proceeds. In this film, Rey is shown flirting with the inherent Dark Side that resides in her father/ancestor. Its execution coming of masterfully and giving us great expectation of what was to come. However, as typical of Disney she reverts back to the good in her..

Fighting to fend off the rage which resided in her. There's one incident in which she decides to become Jesus. Gaining the capacity to heal her opponents not as a result of studying Jedi text. Nope, she simply wills herself to do so. O_O!! Ok. For the sake of expounding on Kylo, I will skip on her relationship and interaction with him and jump right to the final battle. No need to beat around the bush. Rey a fledgling Jedi whose inexperience isn't worth calling her Apprentice puts down Darth Sidious. Arguably the greatest SW cinematic villain. A man whose canonical legend portrays him as a galactic menace capable of fending off Grandsmasters. Let that statement sit and marinate. However, for the casual fan, allow me to refresh your memory. There once existed a young Jedi turned Sith Lord called Anakin. Whose purpose in the narrative was to restore balance in the galaxy. A destiny he accomplished by sacrificing himself to thwart Sidious. In turn fulfilling said prophesy. It was through his sacrifice for his son that we experienced the extent of his character. To have Sidious appear and be wiped out by Rey undermines his actions. Infact it potrays him as mere fool who temporarily impeded the Sith Lord's plans. Plans which over time developed into creating an Empire for his daughter to inherit. Plans which included manipulating Anakin's grandson into becoming a pawn. Speaking of which .......


Kylo: The single most tragic character in the history of the SW cinema. In this film he starts of as the Lord of a fleet. Yet, his actions and leadership neither inspires nor motivates. Instead it sows seeds of distrust and disinterest among his troops. A factor exacerbated by his fanatical desire to be Vader. Which dwarfs him from more immediate responsibilities, you know like training. Becoming a better duelist, training your Dark Side. Just the regular attributes that made Vader a truly fearsome man. Nonetheless, Kylo winds up meeting Palpatine. And considering his emotional vulnerabilities, its no wonder he recruits him to his cause. For the rest of the movie, Kylo becomes a Galatic policeman chasing for Rey. There's some fights here and there. However, its upon their final confrontation where Rey thwarts him. Piercing his chest and defating him in what thematically serves as the movies hint that she's surpassed him. Had he died here, it would have been a mercy. Instead Space Jesus Rey heals him to health and leaves him to his means. Battered, Shamed and Wounded Kylo is approached by his father who convinced him to switch to the light side. In comes Ben out with Kylo. When he reappears once more its to assist Rey.

By now we learn that Palapatine never had any intentions to pass his knowledge and fleet to him. Another cruel revelation which serves to show he was merely a pawn. Not even his own faction gave him the seriousness he deserved. As expected his character is once again sidelined to give way to the Father vs Daughter dynamic in the narrative. That's a fancy way of saying he dies. Rey proceeds to get the glory of victory and picks up his grandfathers and mothers lightsabers. Please don't argue semantics and claim she threw them away. At the end of the day she used parts from both Anakin and Leia to craft her saber. And as final nail to the cofine. The great defiler decided to assume the name Skywalker. A spat to both this man and his family. The daughter of your families enemy is now plying of as one of you. And he accomplished the very thing you couldn't. Become a symbol greater than your grandfather. fukkING LOL
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To be honest deep down I knew what was up but still hoped and prayed. If he wasn’t a Jedi at least make him some what relevant where he isn’t the useless black comic relief. He is just a bumbling fool, it makes me laugh that John Boaga(probably spelt wrong) was working out for the role......nikka why are you working out? So you can scream even louder?
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I don't even pick him in the Star Wars Battlefront game


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Posted this in the other Thread. However, I will add it in here for posterity.
Rey: The great devour-er. A defiler of extreme proportions its borders the sadistic. Introduced to much fanfare, our primary protagonist represented a new take on SW. A young female lead to inspire a new generation and entice the fairer sex. Throughout the various movies her character was marred with accusations of Mary Sue, female Anakin, Clone etc. Yet, none of these hold a candle to her actions and implications within the story. For starters she is the daughter / descendant of Emperor Palpatine. The man whose mere presence caused galactic terror and a particular menace to the Skywalker family. After all it was he who poisoned Anakin's mind. Equally extending the same offer to his son. Torturing both in the proceeds. In this film, Rey is shown flirting with the inherent Dark Side that resides in her father/ancestor. Its execution coming of masterfully and giving us great expectation of what was to come. However, as typical of Disney she reverts back to the good in her..

Fighting to fend off the rage which resided in her. There's one incident in which she decides to become Jesus. Gaining the capacity to heal her opponents not as a result of studying Jedi text. Nope, she simply wills herself to do so. O_O!! Ok. For the sake of expounding on Kylo, I will skip on her relationship and interaction with him and jump right to the final battle. No need to beat around the bush. Rey a fledgling Jedi whose inexperience isn't worth calling her Apprentice puts down Darth Sidious. Arguably the greatest SW cinematic villain. A man whose canonical legend portrays him as a galactic menace capable of fending off Grandsmasters. Let that statement sit and marinate. However, for the casual fan, allow me to refresh your memory. There once existed a young Jedi turned Sith Lord called Anakin. Whose purpose in the narrative was to restore balance in the galaxy. A destiny he accomplished by sacrificing himself to thwart Sidious. In turn fulfilling said prophesy. It was through his sacrifice for his son that we experienced the extent of his character. To have Sidious appear and be wiped out by Rey undermines his actions. Infact it potrays him as mere fool who temporarily impeded the Sith Lord's plans. Plans which over time developed into creating an Empire for his daughter to inherit. Plans which included manipulating Anakin's grandson into becoming a pawn. Speaking of which .......


Kylo: The single most tragic character in the history of the SW cinema. In this film he starts of as the Lord of a fleet. Yet, his actions and leadership neither inspires nor motivates. Instead it sows seeds of distrust and disinterest among his troops. A factor exacerbated by his fanatical desire to be Vader. Which dwarfs him from more immediate responsibilities, you know like training. Becoming a better duelist, training your Dark Side. Just the regular attributes that made Vader a truly fearsome man. Nonetheless, Kylo winds up meeting Palpatine. And considering his emotional vulnerabilities, its no wonder he recruits him to his cause. For the rest of the movie, Kylo becomes a Galatic policeman chasing for Rey. There's some fights here and there. However, its upon their final confrontation where Rey thwarts him. Piercing his chest and defating him in what thematically serves as the movies hint that she's surpassed him. Had he died here, it would have been a mercy. Instead Space Jesus Rey heals him to health and leaves him to his means. Battered, Shamed and Wounded Kylo is approached by his father who convinced him to switch to the light side. In comes Ben out with Kylo. When he reappears once more its to assist Rey.

By now we learn that Palapatine never had any intentions to pass his knowledge and fleet to him. Another cruel revelation which serves to show he was merely a pawn. Not even his own faction gave him the seriousness he deserved. As expected his character is once again sidelined to give way to the Father vs Daughter dynamic in the narrative. That's a fancy way of saying he dies. Rey proceeds to get the glory of victory and picks up his grandfathers and mothers lightsabers. Please don't argue semantics and claim she threw them away. At the end of the day she used parts from both Anakin and Leia to craft her saber. And as final nail to the cofine. The great defiler decided to assume the name Skywalker. A spat to both this man and his family. The daughter of your families enemy is now plying of as one of you. And he accomplished the very thing you couldn't. Become a symbol greater than your grandfather. fukkING LOL
No. No. No. No. Please no. Why? Why?
 
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