Stacey Dash supports Mitt Romney

[Slystallion]

is anybody actually reading worldismine13 and the other guy go at it? Is it really that serious i just see blocks of texts

How do you guys have time to go back and forth with each other like that? Not hating just amazed that its that serious you guys know your not getting paid to win whatever debate your having right?

 

[Gravity]

wait what? you never said stacey dash was out of line?? LOL, ok, if she wasnt out of line what are you going on about?

I'm going on about you being a clown. I'm going on about you being stupid. I'm going on about you being full of shyt. I'll keep telling you this until it finally seeps into that block head of yours.

ok thanks you for sharing your opinion with everybody
we have established that you have difference of opinion with stacey dash, so again what exactly is the problem?

Okay, I'll tell you again. The problem is that you're a clown, an idiot, you're stupid, and full of shyt.

if you are simply expressing your opinion thats cool, you have expressed your views so now we can all move with our lives

My life hasn't stopped moving.

but from what i saw before you where 1) endorsing the verbal assault on another person for expressing their opinion 2) suggesting that the only proper way for a black person to analyze the presidential race is in terms of lesser evil and 3) you in your great wisdom have concluded for every single black person who the lesser evil is and 4) whoever disagrees with #2 and #3 is a sellout, which made me say we have a political hack here

but if you are simply expressing your opinion than i take back calling you a political hack and would like to thank you for sharing your inconsequential and irrelevant opinion with me

We can add liar to your description as well, because you haven't seen me do any of those things. I've said over and over that I'm simply stating my personal opinions here, yet you insist upon trying to misrepresent what I've said.

again for the fifth time, even if it was anti intellectual and close minded it wouldnt preclude me invoking intellectual freedom for myself, stacey dash or other white people, nowhere in the definition of intellectual freedom does it say that an opinion has to be sufficiently intellectual

Nowhere in my posts have I said anything about trying to preclude you, Stacy Dash, or anyone else from "invoking" intellectual freedom. Intellectual freedom has not been threatened, you can have intellectual freedom all you want. I'm simply exercising my intellectual freedom to call you a hypocrite for chastising others for behavior that you exhibit yourself. You look stupid accusing others of being close minded when you yourself are close minded.

im just curious, do you consider a death threat to be a threat, in other words, if somebody voices their view and they receive a death threat, do you consider that situation to be a form of intellectual freedom?

I'm just curious, what does this have to do with the topic at hand?

again that is not correct, intellectual freedom requires a respect and tolerance of different views, if somebody is verbally assaulted that obviously is not showing respect or tolerance for different views

You're simply too stupid to understand the simplest of concepts. Intellectual freedom is simply the right to freedom of expression. You don't have to respect a person's opinions or thoughts, but you do have to respect their right to express them. I really don't know what's so hard to understand. You have to be one of the dumbest people that I've ever encountered.

like i said, thats just your imagination, i never claimed any moral authority, i simply was advocating for intellectual freedom

I didn't imagine you running in here and telling black people what we should or shouldn't do. When you came in here telling people what they should or shouldn't do, you claimed some higher moral authority by default. That's why I engaged you in the 1st place. You're a hypocrite who needs to get off of your high horse. You run around here calling yourself "God Emperor" referring to yourself in 3rd person for goodness sake. Seriously, you're really stupid but I only make fun of you because you're arrogant, not to be mean.

people that insult her are within their freedom of speech to insult her, but they are violating intellectual freedom when they start to verbally assault her

there is a difference



you need to read your own link, your own link elaborates and it clearly says



so stacey dash's intellectual freedom was violated or attempted to be violated in 2 ways, 1) by verbally assaulting her it interfered with her ability to express her opinion and 2) the suggestion that a black woman has limited choice i the presidential race

You're just a bold faced liar. The people who insulted Stacy Dash on twitter did not interfere with her right or ability to express herself in any way. In fact, the uproar that the people on twitter caused allowed Stacy Dash the opportunity to express her opinion/position on a much bigger platform. The cable television interview that you yourself posted wouldn't have happened without the people on twitter. If insults interfered with a person's ability to express an opinion then your dumb ass would have been silenced a long time ago because I've insulted you(and will continue to do so) plenty. If insults interfered with a person's ability to express themselves then why is "trolling"(which you seem to be trying to do) so popular? ? Now, people deliberately say things that they know will anger or excite people just for the shine. Some people think that Stacy Dash was just trolling for the attention, and if she was then it worked. You're so dumb it's funny.

and while we are at it, lets make another distinction

verbal insults that are non threatening is covered under freedom of speech, but it does not fall under intellectual freedom because verbal assaults like physical assaults create an environment where people are discouraged (interfere) from expressing their views

More nonsense. I've posted the official definition of intellectual freedom defined by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights Act, yet you continue to shovel your BS. This is why I'm going to continue to insult you. Your stupidty is actually an insult to me. It saddens me to think that there are people as dumb as you out in the world.

verbal insults that are threatening are not covered under either freedom of speech or intellectual freedom

and both types of insults (threatening and no threatening) occurred to stacey dash in an attempt to violate her intellectual freedom

Verbal threats and verbal insults are 2 totally different things. I didn't see anyone threatening Stacy Dash so I don't even know why you're bringing that up. I'm lying, obviously you're trying to cloud the issue.

intellectual freedom is the right to freedom of expression without interference and verbal assaults that discourage expression are interference

I've already posted the official definition of intellectual freedom yet here you are still trying to spin the definition to fit your BS. Insulting someone over the internet does not interfere with their right to express themselves. If you decide not to express yourself in fear of being criticized or insulted then that is a personal decision that you have made. Freedom of expression allows a person to insult you if they so choose. Again, you're one of the dumbest people that I've ever engaged.

i dont object to stacey dash expressing her views

i thought it was understood i objected to what she said

I'm just playing with you at this point. I've made you talk yourself into so many circles that you're dizzy.

me objecting to her opinion is different than me objecting to her ability to express it

No joke? It's the same way that respecting someone's right to express their opinion is different from respecting their opinion, right? I'm being sarcastic by the way, I assume you didn't catch it.

i wont ignore the actual definition, i actually went further than you and quoted the whole entire definition of intellectual freedom to show that interfering with an expression of an opinion is a violation of intellectual freedom

You've done nothing but attempt to spin the definition that I posted. The concept of intellectual freedom is to oppose censorship yet you're trying to use it as a way to censor people. "Oh you're violating her intellectual freedom when you insult her". You're extremely dumb man. The countless insults that I've hurled at you have done nothing to interfere with your right to freely express yourself however you choose. This back and forth has not hindered your ability to say anything that you want to say what so ever. Intellectual freedom does not protect you from someone else's freedom of expression. Intellectual freedom and freedom of expression are the same thing yet you're acting as if they can't coexist. "I can only have my intellectual freedom if you watch what you say". You're so dumb it's funny.

im responding simply because i will not tolerate disparaging the character of the God Emperor

Your stupidity disparages your character more than I ever could.

and i forgot to respond to this




the answer is yes, if stacey dash had said that black men are inferior, under intellectual freedom you would still have to respect or tolerate her views and you should refrain from assaulting her verbally or physically, under intellectual freedom people have the right to be racist and/or express racist views

and yes i can object to that view while not objecting to the expressing of those views

this is why ive made it clear that im not claiming a moral high round, im simply advocating for intellectual freedom

This says everything one needs to know about you. Accroding to your dumb ass, intellectual freedom would allow Stacy Dash to insult every black man on earth but intellectual freedom doesn't allow for people to insult Stacy Dash. How does that work? You don't think that calling a race of men inferior would create an environment that discourages those men from expressing their views?

is anybody actually reading worldismine13 and the other guy go at it? Is it really that serious i just see blocks of texts

How do you guys have time to go back and forth with each other like that? Not hating just amazed that its that serious you guys know your not getting paid to win whatever debate your having right?

I'm not slow so i can type these responses up pretty quickly. It's not serious, im posting on a messageboard. What concern is it of your though? Will you be paid to find out why we continue to go back and forth?

If they are going to vote...vote for indy, green or other parties those that focus on community issues as well as international issues. Both Demos and Repubs are poison for the black community...both of them.

Ok, so black people should just throw their votes away on a candidate that has no shot to be elected President, while everybody else decides between the only 2 guys that have a shot of being elected? That sounds real smart my man, I can see that you've thought that through.

 

[thekingsmen]

Ok, so black people should just throw their votes away on a candidate that has no shot to be elected President, while everybody else decides between the only 2 guys that have a shot of being elected? That sounds real smart my man, I can see that you've thought that through.

See you are brainwashed into the ideology of the 2 parties. This proves my point perfectly on how the 2 parties control your own thoughts based off what has been given.

 

[theworldismine13]

I'm going on about you being a clown. I'm going on about you being stupid. I'm going on about you being full of shyt. I'll keep telling you this until it finally seeps into that block head of yours.

Okay, I'll tell you again. The problem is that you're a clown, an idiot, you're stupid, and full of shyt.
My life hasn't stopped moving.

wow that is very eloquent, i can almost feel your emotions as you were writing this, i can feel the pain as you pound your mouse pad in anger and as tears of frustration drop on your keyboard

We can add liar to your description as well, because you haven't seen me do any of those things. I've said over and over that I'm simply stating my personal opinions here, yet you insist upon trying to misrepresent what I've said.

if i am lying about you being a poltical hack and you are not trying to push certain political views on the entire black race, then for the 7th time, what is the problem

everybody has said their opinion, everybody has intellectual freedom and freedom of speech, so its all good

what exactly is your beef or issue with stacey dash?

Nowhere in my posts have I said anything about trying to preclude you, Stacy Dash, or anyone else from "invoking" intellectual freedom. Intellectual freedom has not been threatened, you can have intellectual freedom all you want. I'm simply exercising my intellectual freedom to call you a hypocrite for chastising others for behavior that you exhibit yourself. You look stupid accusing others of being close minded when you yourself are close minded.

i already answered this, before you had mentioned that stacey' dash's position wasn't sufficiently intellectual and you dont have to respect it, im correcting you and saying under intellectual freedom you do have to respect it, what you are doing is conflating freedom of speech with intellectual freedom

and again, i have never said i wasnt a hypocrite, im fine being a so called "hypocrite" and for having close minded views and you are welcome to take the moral high ground, the only thing im defending is stacey's dash's intellectual freedom and that means expressing her views without being flooded by insults

I'm just curious, what does this have to do with the topic at hand?

because stacey dash was receiving death threats

You're simply too stupid to understand the simplest of concepts. Intellectual freedom is simply the right to freedom of expression. You don't have to respect a person's opinions or thoughts, but you do have to respect their right to express them. I really don't know what's so hard to understand. You have to be one of the dumbest people that I've ever encountered.

again its not that way, you can't have an environment where people are insulted when they express a view and say that is intellectual freedom

you can make the case that insults are freedom of speech, but to have intellectual freedom you cannot have insults flying around

I didn't imagine you running in here and telling black people what we should or shouldn't do. When you came in here telling people what they should or shouldn't do, you claimed some higher moral authority by default. That's why I engaged you in the 1st place. You're a hypocrite who needs to get off of your high horse. You run around here calling yourself "God Emperor" referring to yourself in 3rd person for goodness sake. Seriously, you're really stupid but I only make fun of you because you're arrogant, not to be mean.

you are making fun of me? where? i thought you were just babbling in an increasingly angry tone

as long as the spittle and foam coming from your mouth doesnt hit me, im fine, the God Emperor will just sit back in his throne and chillax

You're just a bold faced liar. The people who insulted Stacy Dash on twitter did not interfere with her right or ability to express herself in any way. In fact, the uproar that the people on twitter caused allowed Stacy Dash the opportunity to express her opinion/position on a much bigger platform. The cable television interview that you yourself posted wouldn't have happened without the people on twitter. If insults interfered with a person's ability to express an opinion then your dumb ass would have been silenced a long time ago because I've insulted you(and will continue to do so) plenty. If insults interfered with a person's ability to express themselves then why is "trolling"(which you seem to be trying to do) so popular? ? Now, people deliberately say things that they know will anger or excite people just for the shine. Some people think that Stacy Dash was just trolling for the attention, and if she was then it worked. You're so dumb it's funny.

thats retarded, thats like saying that the us government never suppressed the intellectual freedom of the black panthers because by prosecuting them the panthers were able to get more famous and spread the message out

this is why conflating freedom of speech and intellectual freedom is wrong, under your definition assata shakur has intellectual freedom because common made a song about her and now people will listen to her more

freedom of speech and intellectual freedom are related but they are not the same thing and if somebody expresses a view and they are barraged by insults they are not being given intellect freedom

Verbal threats and verbal insults are 2 totally different things. I didn't see anyone threatening Stacy Dash so I don't even know why you're bringing that up. I'm lying, obviously you're trying to cloud the issue.

maybe because you are blind, but stacey dash received both verbal threats and and verbal insults, in fact the same thing happened to nicki minaj when people thought she had endorsed romney

and again, i am not clouding the issue, the issue of the verbal threats and verbal insults is the issue, that has been the only issue i was concerned about

if you have some other issue with stacey dash thats on you

I've already posted the official definition of intellectual freedom yet here you are still trying to spin the definition to fit your BS. Insulting someone over the internet does not interfere with their right to express themselves. If you decide not to express yourself in fear of being criticized or insulted then that is a personal decision that you have made. Freedom of expression allows a person to insult you if they so choose. Again, you're one of the dumbest people that I've ever engaged.

again, if somebody is scared to express themselves out of fear that they will be insulted that shows a lack of intellectual freedom, what you are saying is just absurd

and you just basically exposed yourself and proved whats really going

people engaged and encouraged the insults in the hope that it would scare her and other people into not expressing approval for romney

thanks for exposing yourself

I'm just playing with you at this point. I've made you talk yourself into so many circles that you're dizzy.

im not sure what is so hard to understand, i can object to a certain point of view while not objecting to the ability to state that view

what is so hard to understand about that?

You've done nothing but attempt to spin the definition that I posted. The concept of intellectual freedom is to oppose censorship yet you're trying to use it as a way to censor people. "Oh you're violating her intellectual freedom when you insult her". You're extremely dumb man. The countless insults that I've hurled at you have done nothing to interfere with your right to freely express yourself however you choose. This back and forth has not hindered your ability to say anything that you want to say what so ever. Intellectual freedom does not protect you from someone else's freedom of expression. Intellectual freedom and freedom of expression are the same thing yet you're acting as if they can't coexist. "I can only have my intellectual freedom if you watch what you say". You're so dumb it's funny.

the problem is that you just exposed the true intention of why you encourage and defend the insults, you where or are trying to create an environment where if a black women expressed approval for romney they would be flooded with insults and then would be scared of stating that view

apparently you think its ok to scare people into silence and you consider self censorship a form of freedom, maybe you are right and you arent a political hack, maybe you're a fukin nazi

This says everything one needs to know about you. Accroding to your dumb ass, intellectual freedom would allow Stacy Dash to insult every black man on earth but intellectual freedom doesn't allow for people to insult Stacy Dash. How does that work? You don't think that calling a race of men inferior would create an environment that discourages those men from expressing their views?

yeah under what i am saying, stacey dash can express racist views, and so can anybody else, so in response you can say you disagree or you can say you think white men are inferior and from there the discussion can go forth in a free open environment where both sides can make their case

as long as its simply expressing a view then under intellectual freedom there is nothing wrong with that

i thought i had made that perfectly clear i am standing up for intellectual freedom, i am not on moral crusade

 

[Gravity]

wow that is very eloquent, i can almost feel your emotions as you were writing this, i can feel the pain as you pound your mouse pad in anger and as tears of frustration drop on your keyboard

Talk about imagination. Does convincing yourself that I'm "emotional" make you fee better about yourself or something? I wasn't aware that one had to be in a certain emotional state in order to insult someone else. Contrary to what you've convinced yourself to believe, you being an idiot has no bearring on me what so ever. These are just my thoughts.

if i am lying about you being a poltical hack and you are not trying to push certain political views on the entire black race, then for the 7th time, what is the problem

You don't know what a "political hack" is. You have lied about seeing me trying to push views on anybody else though. I've done no such thing. The problem here is that you're an idiot who's full of shyt. That's the problem.

everybody has said their opinion, everybody has intellectual freedom and freedom of speech, so its all good
what exactly is your beef or issue with stacey dash?

Yes, everybody has intellectual freedom to express themselves however they so choose, which is why I'm calling your dumb ass out for accusing Dash's attackers of interfering with her right to express herself. They have done no such thing. I don't have a beef with Stacy Dash, I'm simply calling you for being stupid and full of shyt. I don't know how many times you must read this before you finally get it.

i already answered this, before you had mentioned that stacey' dash's position wasn't sufficiently intellectual and you dont have to respect it, im correcting you and saying under intellectual freedom you do have to respect it, what you are doing is conflating freedom of speech with intellectual freedom

Intellectual freedom, freedom of speech, and freedom of expression are pretty much all the same thing. I've even provided proof that tells you that yet you're still shoveling your BS. How can you have intellectual freedom or freedom of thought if you must respect everyones' opinion whether you want to or not? You're so stupid that you don't understand that intellectual freedom/freedom of thought gives me the right not to respect a person's opinion or views if I choose not to. All I have to respect is your right to express your opinions and thoughts because we all have that right. You can't have a free and open society if you're going to tell people how they should think. You can say whatever you want to say, but I certainly don't have to respect what you say.

and again, i have never said i wasnt a hypocrite, im fine being a so called "hypocrite" and for having close minded views and you are welcome to take the moral high ground, the only thing im defending is stacey's dash's intellectual freedom and that means expressing her views without being flooded by insults

Intellectual freedom does not give anyone the right to be protected from insults. Stacy Dash's intellectual freedom does not override anybody else's intellectual freedom. If someone feels that Stacy Dash is a white-washed sellout then that is their opinion of her and they have the intellectual freedom to express that opinion.

because stacey dash was receiving death threats

Just read throught the tweets that are in the link on the original post and I don't see one threat. So when you post an example of her receiving a death threat I'll acknowledge your question.

again its not that way, you can't have an environment where people are insulted when they express a view and say that is intellectual freedom
you can make the case that insults are freedom of speech, but to have intellectual freedom you cannot have insults flying around

You're so stupid it's funny and sad at the saame time. Intellectual freedom is the right to freedom of expression and thought. Somebody insulting you does nothing to take away your right to freely express yourself. If you decide not to freely express yourself out of fear of being insulted then you get some courage or grow thicker skin. You're contradiciting yourself but you're too dumb to even realize it. You're basically saying that freedom of expression and intellectual freedom can't coexist even though they are the same thing.

you are making fun of me? where? i thought you were just babbling in an increasingly angry tone

as long as the spittle and foam coming from your mouth doesnt hit me, im fine, the God Emperor will just sit back in his throne and chillax

Yes, I'm making fun of the self titled "god emperor" and how stupid he is. I would bet that your IQ is below 80.

thats retarded, thats like saying that the us government never suppressed the intellectual freedom of the black panthers because by prosecuting them the panthers were able to get more famous and spread the message out

Yes, because the government arresting people and throwing them in jail because of what they say is the same as an individual insulting another individual because of something that the person has said. I keep saying it over and over but you're literally too dumb for words to describe.

this is why conflating freedom of speech and intellectual freedom is wrong, under your definition assata shakur has intellectual freedom because common made a song about her and now people will listen to her more

freedom of speech and intellectual freedom are related but they are not the same thing and if somebody expresses a view and they are barraged by insults they are not being given intellect freedom

Intellectual freedom is the right to freedom of thought and of expression of thought. As defined by Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, it is a human right. Article 19 states

^^^I've already posted proof that intellectual freedom is defined as the right to freedom of expression and thought, yet you continue to try and separate the 2. That's not "my" definition of intellectual freedom dumb ass, that's the meaning of the term as defined by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. You cannot separate intellectual freedom from freedom of expression no matter how bad you want to. They go hand in hand. Your right to intellectual freedom does not override anybody else's right to intellectual freedom. Insults do not deny you your right to intellectual freedom. Everybody has the intellectual freedom to express themselves and their thoughts however they choose.

maybe because you are blind, but stacey dash received both verbal threats and and verbal insults, in fact the same thing happened to nicki minaj when people thought she had endorsed romney

and again, i am not clouding the issue, the issue of the verbal threats and verbal insults is the issue, that has been the only issue i was concerned about

if you have some other issue with stacey dash thats on you

I'm not blind, there are no examples of Dash receiving threats in the tweets listed in the link posted on the 1st page. If you post some examples of her being threatened then I'll acknowledge them. Until then, I'll chalk this up as another example of you lying being full of shyt.

I don't have any issues with Stacy Dash. My opinion on her and her endorsement has been made clear. My purpose is to call you out for being dumb and full of shyt. Your shoveling shyt in this thread and I'm simply pointing it out.

again, if somebody is scared to express themselves out of fear that they will be insulted that shows a lack of intellectual freedom, what you are saying is just absurd

If somebody is scared to express themselves freely because out of fear of being challenged or insulted then that's a personal problem that they're going to have to deal with. Some people are discouraged to express themselves freely out of fear of being criticized, it's not just the over the top disrespectful behavior that can discourage someone. Some people are just scary like that. The next person's fear or thin skin, does not override anyone else's right to freedom of expression though. Your position is that people must be censored in order for us to have freedom and you say that what I'm posting is absurd. I would not be able to make this up.

and you just basically exposed yourself and proved whats really going

people engaged and encouraged the insults in the hope that it would scare her and other people into not expressing approval for romney

thanks for exposing yourself

I won't psychoanalyze the people who went in on Dash, and I'm certainly not going to take the psychoanalysis of someone as dumb as you seriously. I don't know what their "hopes" were, I just know that none of Stacy Dash's rights were violated. She had the right to post her opinion and others had the right to go in on her because of her opinion.

the problem is that you just exposed the true intention of why you encourage and defend the insults, you where or are trying to create an environment where if a black women expressed approval for romney they would be flooded with insults and then would be scared of stating that view

This is another strawman argument that you've created just to have something to respond to. I haven't said or implied any of that at any point during this back and forth. I even touched on the possibility that Dash was trolling and only did this for the attention. I have no desire to silence Dash or scare her into being silent. At the same time, I don't defend or condemn the insults. Stacy Dash could very well be a stupid c00n which seems to be the gist of most of the insults thrown at her. I've seen some evidence to support that description, but I don't know enough about her to take a side.

apparently you think its ok to scare people into silence and you consider self censorship a form of freedom, maybe you are right and you arent a political hack, maybe you're a fukin nazi

Here you go lying again. If someone is scared into silence because the next person is exercising their right to freedom of expression then said person has a personal problem. Nobody should be scared to express themselves out of fear of what other people might say. If you suffer from that then get over it.

yeah under what i am saying, stacey dash can express racist views, and so can anybody else, so in response you can say you disagree or you can say you think white men are inferior and from there the discussion can go forth in a free open environment where both sides can make their case

as long as its simply expressing a view then under intellectual freedom there is nothing wrong with that

i thought i had made that perfectly clear i am standing up for intellectual freedom, i am not on moral crusade

So why don't you think that Dash's attackers have the same freedom? Your whole BS position here is that Dash's attackers violated her intellectual freedom because their insults have discouraged her from expressing her opinion. So how would saying that black men are inferior not constitute discouraging black men from expressing ourselves using that same "logic"? If your made up version of intellectual freedom allows people to express racist views(the ultimate insult), then why doesn't it allow people to insult Stacy Dash? You're so full of shyt that i can smell you through the screen.

See you are brainwashed into the ideology of the 2 parties. This proves my point perfectly on how the 2 parties control your own thoughts based off what has been given.

I'm not brainwashed to believe anything, I just have common sense which is something that you don't have. Common sense tells me that the only 2 people that have a shot of being elected are Obama and Romney. Nobody else has a shot, so even if every black person in the country came together and voted for a specific 3rd party candidate Romney or Obama would still be the only 2 people with a shot to win. Knowing that, I see no reason why black people should stand on the sideline and allow all of the other races of people in this country to choose between Romney or Obama. Especially when one candidate is clearly worse for our community than the other.

 

[thekingsmen]

I'm not brainwashed to believe anything, I just have common sense which is something that you don't have. Common sense tells me that the only 2 people that have a shot of being elected are Obama and Romney. Nobody else has a shot, so even if every black person in the country came together and voted for a specific 3rd party candidate Romney or Obama would still be the only 2 people with a shot to win. Knowing that, I see no reason why black people should stand on the sideline and allow all of the other races of people in this country to choose between Romney or Obama. Especially when one candidate is clearly worse for our community than the other.

Son you are brainwashed with no common sense about what is what. You stuck on stupid thinking the 2 parties will help the black community.

 

[stealthbomber]

let her do her doesnt make a difference to me

 

[theworldismine13]

Talk about imagination. Does convincing yourself that I'm "emotional" make you fee better about yourself or something? I wasn't aware that one had to be in a certain emotional state in order to insult someone else. Contrary to what you've convinced yourself to believe, you being an idiot has no bearring on me what so ever. These are just my thoughts.

ok...sure

You don't know what a "political hack" is. You have lied about seeing me trying to push views on anybody else though. I've done no such thing. The problem here is that you're an idiot who's full of shyt. That's the problem.

i think you are right, you arent a political hack, you're actually a nazi

Yes, everybody has intellectual freedom to express themselves however they so choose, which is why I'm calling your dumb ass out for accusing Dash's attackers of interfering with her right to express herself. They have done no such thing. I don't have a beef with Stacy Dash, I'm simply calling you for being stupid and full of shyt. I don't know how many times you must read this before you finally get it.

so you have no beef with stacey dash and you are just in this thread to insult the God Emperor? alrighty then, i feel special

Intellectual freedom, freedom of speech, and freedom of expression are pretty much all the same thing. I've even provided proof that tells you that yet you're still shoveling your BS. How can you have intellectual freedom or freedom of thought if you must respect everyones' opinion whether you want to or not? You're so stupid that you don't understand that intellectual freedom/freedom of thought gives me the right not to respect a person's opinion or views if I choose not to. All I have to respect is your right to express your opinions and thoughts because we all have that right. You can't have a free and open society if you're going to tell people how they should think. You can say whatever you want to say, but I certainly don't have to respect what you say.

You're so stupid it's funny and sad at the saame time. Intellectual freedom is the right to freedom of expression and thought. Somebody insulting you does nothing to take away your right to freely express yourself. If you decide not to freely express yourself out of fear of being insulted then you get some courage or grow thicker skin. You're contradiciting yourself but you're too dumb to even realize it. You're basically saying that freedom of expression and intellectual freedom can't coexist even though they are the same thing.

you are just exposing yourself as a nazi, the idea that its intellectual freedom when somebody is assaulted with insults because they express an opinion is absurd

intellectual freedom is more than just freedom of speech, intellectual freedom requires you to respect other people's opinions

of course you dont have to respect other people's opinion if you dont want to, you only have to respect other people's opinion if you want to create an environment that has intellectual freedom

Yes, I'm making fun of the self titled "god emperor" and how stupid he is. I would bet that your IQ is below 80.

you're hilarious

Yes, because the government arresting people and throwing them in jail because of what they say is the same as an individual insulting another individual because of something that the person has said. I keep saying it over and over but you're literally too dumb for words to describe.

Intellectual freedom is the right to freedom of thought and of expression of thought. As defined by Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, it is a human right. Article 19 states

^^^I've already posted proof that intellectual freedom is defined as the right to freedom of expression and thought, yet you continue to try and separate the 2. That's not "my" definition of intellectual freedom dumb ass, that's the meaning of the term as defined by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. You cannot separate intellectual freedom from freedom of expression no matter how bad you want to. They go hand in hand. Your right to intellectual freedom does not override anybody else's right to intellectual freedom. Insults do not deny you your right to intellectual freedom. Everybody has the intellectual freedom to express themselves and their thoughts however they choose.

If somebody is scared to express themselves freely because out of fear of being challenged or insulted then that's a personal problem that they're going to have to deal with. Some people are discouraged to express themselves freely out of fear of being criticized, it's not just the over the top disrespectful behavior that can discourage someone. Some people are just scary like that. The next person's fear or thin skin, does not override anyone else's right to freedom of expression though. Your position is that people must be censored in order for us to have freedom and you say that what I'm posting is absurd. I would not be able to make this up.

Here you go lying again. If someone is scared into silence because the next person is exercising their right to freedom of expression then said person has a personal problem. Nobody should be scared to express themselves out of fear of what other people might say. If you suffer from that then get over it.

you can't see the similarities because you're a nazi

the purpose of throwing someone in jail and/or assaulting somebody with insults after they state an an opinion is the same, its to discourage them from expressing their opinion, sure there is a difference in degree but the purpose and the psychology of both the perpetrator and the victim is the same

this is america, you shouldn't need "courage" to express yourself, the only thing you need is a thought in your head and you are free to spit it out, in theory anyway

I'm not blind, there are no examples of Dash receiving threats in the tweets listed in the link posted on the 1st page. If you post some examples of her being threatened then I'll acknowledge them. Until then, I'll chalk this up as another example of you lying being full of shyt.

I don't have any issues with Stacy Dash. My opinion on her and her endorsement has been made clear. My purpose is to call you out for being dumb and full of shyt. Your shoveling shyt in this thread and I'm simply pointing it out.

I won't psychoanalyze the people who went in on Dash, and I'm certainly not going to take the psychoanalysis of someone as dumb as you seriously. I don't know what their "hopes" were, I just know that none of Stacy Dash's rights were violated. She had the right to post her opinion and others had the right to go in on her because of her opinion.

https://twitter.com/samjgraham75/status/255916314990891008
https://twitter.com/_heartofahooper/status/255442391106977792
https://twitter.com/Boomerdabaddest/status/255369177173487616

So why don't you think that Dash's attackers have the same freedom? Your whole BS position here is that Dash's attackers violated her intellectual freedom because their insults have discouraged her from expressing her opinion. So how would saying that black men are inferior not constitute discouraging black men from expressing ourselves using that same "logic"? If your made up version of intellectual freedom allows people to express racist views(the ultimate insult), then why doesn't it allow people to insult Stacy Dash? You're so full of shyt that i can smell you through the screen.

stacey dash's attacker and everybody else has the same right, they should express their opinion and explain why their position is superior to stacey dash's

if somebody honestly believes that white men are superior then that is not in and of itself an insult

 

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i think you are right, you arent a political hack, you're actually a nazi

How dare you violate my intellectual freedom by insulting me. Seriously though, a nazi? You're calling me a nazi why? You're too stupid to know what a nazi or nazism is. I told you, you just throw terms out here with no clue as to what they really mean.

so you have no beef with stacey dash and you are just in this thread to insult the God Emperor? alrighty then, i feel special

I'm quite sure the little attention that I'm giving you does make you feel special. You strike me as the nobody low self esteem type. The corny self given "god emperor" moniker is an obvious tell.

you are just exposing yourself as a nazi, the idea that its intellectual freedom when somebody is assaulted with insults because they express an opinion is absurd

It's not absurd to anyone with common sense. Intellectual freedom gives people the right to freedom of expression and thought. What part of that don't you get?

intellectual freedom is more than just freedom of speech, intellectual freedom requires you to respect other people's opinions

I've posted the definition of intellectual freedom and it doesn't say anything about people being required to respect other people's opinion. Not only are you stupid, you're extremely dishonest. You're just an all around piece of shyt. It's hilarious.

child molester- Sandusky is my hero, I see nothing wrong with raping young boys.

you- we all must respect that opinion.

of course you dont have to respect other people's opinion if you dont want to, you only have to respect other people's opinion if you want to create an environment that has intellectual freedom

Yes, in your made up world inside of that bird brain of yours. In reality though, intellectual freedom gives everyone the right to freedom of expression.

you can't see the similarities because you're a nazi

the purpose of throwing someone in jail and/or assaulting somebody with insults after they state an an opinion is the same, its to discourage them from expressing their opinion, sure there is a difference in degree but the purpose and the psychology of both the perpetrator and the victim is the same

Try your sub 80 IQ psychology on somebody else because it doesn't fly with me. I starting to think that you're mentally handicapped and if you are then I apologize. I actually hope that you are because nobody should be this stupid without a legit excuse.

this is america, you shouldn't need "courage" to express yourself, the only thing you need is a thought in your head and you are free to spit it out, in theory anyway

Exactly, and everybody has the same right to express their thoughts freely. In a free and open environment where everybody has the right to intellectual freedom or freedom of expression then it does take courage to express yourself freely, especially if you have thoughts or views that aren't popular or go against the country.

https://twitter.com/samjgraham75/status/255916314990891008
https://twitter.com/_heartofahooper/status/255442391106977792
https://twitter.com/Boomerdabaddest/status/255369177173487616

I guess you don't know what the word "threat" means either. Not one of those tweets threatens Stacy Dash. You will lie at the drop of a hat with a straight face.

stacey dash's attacker and everybody else has the same right, they should express their opinion and explain why their position is superior to stacey dash's

Hold up, earlier in this thread you said that intellectual freedom gives a person the right to express their thoughts without explaining them to anybody. You ran your dumb ass in here telling people that Stacy Dash didn't have to explain herself to anyone

i invoked intellectual freedom to politely inform people that actually stacey dash doesnt really have to explain herself, like i said its completely acceptable if she wakes up in the morning, farts, and tweets her endorsement and farts again and goes back to sleep, without any "intellectual" explanation for her actions

Yet here you are telling her attackers that they SHOULD explain themselves to her? You can't even keep up with your own BS. If Stacy Dash doesn't have to explain herself then why should the people who went in on her? You're tripping all over yourself throughout the thread. This is sad.

if somebody honestly believes that white men are superior then that is not in and of itself an insult

Now I know I've heard it all. Acorrding to you, calling someone inferior isn't an insult if you really believe it. Not only are you a hypocrite who's full of it, you're a true to life c00n(if you're even black). Evidently you feel like white men are superior to you, and that's why you wouldn't consider someone telling you that an insult. Talk about exposing yourself.

Son you are brainwashed with no common sense about what is what. You stuck on stupid thinking the 2 parties will help the black community.

I see that intelligence is a premium here. You're an idiot too huh? My stance isn't based on thinking that either party is going to do much to "help" the black community, it's based on the belief that one party will do more to hurt our community than the other. Again my mentally slow friend, Romney and the crackers that he will bring with him to the white house will be a lot worse than Obama and his team. That's my position. I would say that you're brainwashed, but I'm not sure that you have a brain to wash.

 

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I'm quite sure the little attention that I'm giving you does make you feel special. You strike me as the nobody low self esteem type. The corny self given "god emperor" moniker is an obvious tell.

yeah its knowing that the little god emperor has garnered such hatred inside you that you have devoted so much time to insulting the God, now the God Emperor knows how stacey dash felt

How dare you violate my intellectual freedom by insulting me. Seriously though, a nazi? You're calling me a nazi why? You're too stupid to know what a nazi or nazism is. I told you, you just throw terms out here with no clue as to what they really mean.

It's not absurd to anyone with common sense. Intellectual freedom gives people the right to freedom of expression and thought. What part of that don't you get?

Yes, in your made up world inside of that bird brain of yours. In reality though, intellectual freedom gives everyone the right to freedom of expression.

Exactly, and everybody has the same right to express their thoughts freely. In a free and open environment where everybody has the right to intellectual freedom or freedom of expression then it does take courage to express yourself freely, especially if you have thoughts or views that aren't popular or go against the country.

I've posted the definition of intellectual freedom and it doesn't say anything about people being required to respect other people's opinion. Not only are you stupid, you're extremely dishonest. You're just an all around piece of shyt. It's hilarious.

yeah it gives the freedom of expression and thought without interference, and insulting people to try to intimidate them into not expressing themselves is interference

and the reality is that you exposed yourself as a nazi by endorsing verbal intimidation to discourage minority views as something that is normal and acceptable

child molester- Sandusky is my hero, I see nothing wrong with raping young boys.

you- we all must respect that opinion.

yeah, if people feel there is nothing wrong with raping children then they should express that view

like i said already, i can object to an opinion without objecting to the ability to state an opinion

Try your sub 80 IQ psychology on somebody else because it doesn't fly with me. I starting to think that you're mentally handicapped and if you are then I apologize. I actually hope that you are because nobody should be this stupid without a legit excuse.

you dont have to apologize, you are welcome to think im mentally handicapped, thats you're right, its very obvious who is mentally handicapped in this conversation

I guess you don't know what the word "threat" means either. Not one of those tweets threatens Stacy Dash. You will lie at the drop of a hat with a straight face.

wow, ok, lol

sure, you are definitely not a nazi

Hold up, earlier in this thread you said that intellectual freedom gives a person the right to express their thoughts without explaining them to anybody. You ran your dumb ass in here telling people that Stacy Dash didn't have to explain herself to anyone

Yet here you are telling her attackers that they SHOULD explain themselves to her? You can't even keep up with your own BS. If Stacy Dash doesn't have to explain herself then why should the people who went in on her? You're tripping all over yourself throughout the thread. This is sad.

i think you are confused, you asked about a hypothetical situation where stacey dash said black man are inferior, and i was explaining how to keep the conversation going assuming black inferiority is a illegitimate view and assuming you want to keep it from devolving into insults

yeah i said people should explain themselves

but you don't have to, ive never said anybody has to explain themselves after they have stated their views

im not sure where the contradiction is, i said the same thing about everybody, both should explain themselves but they dont have to if they dont want to

Now I know I've heard it all. Acorrding to you, calling someone inferior isn't an insult if you really believe it. Not only are you a hypocrite who's full of it, you're a true to life c00n(if you're even black). Evidently you feel like white men are superior to you, and that's why you wouldn't consider someone telling you that an insult. Talk about exposing yourself.

my actual views are that im voting for obama because he is black, and the Black man is God

as long as white people follow the constitution and obey all federal and state laws and regulations white people can do and think whatever they want, its a free country

 

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yeah its knowing that the little god emperor has garnered such hatred inside you that you have devoted so much time to insulting the God, now the God Emperor knows how stacey dash felt

Hate? No, not in the least. It wouldn't be fair to hate someone as dumb/corny as you. Life is hard enough.

yeah it gives the freedom of expression and thought without interference, and insulting people to try to intimidatethem into not expressing themselves is interference

Your sub 80 IQ psychoanalysis of what those people were "trying" to do means nothing. You aren't any position to speak for those people and what they were trying to do. All you know is what they actually did, which was freely express themselves.

and the reality is that you exposed yourself as a nazi by endorsing verbal intimidation to discourage minority views as something that is normal and acceptable

You aren't any position to speak for me either. I've done no such thing. I clearly said that I won't condemn or endorse the people who went in on Dash. The insults about her being a dumb sellout could be spot-on for all I know though.

The only thing being exposed here is your stupidity and dishonesty.

yeah, if people feel there is nothing wrong with raping children then they should express that view

like i said already, i can object to an opinion without objecting to the ability to state an opinion

That analogy was to illustrate how stupid your "all opinions must be respected to have intellectual freedom" position is. Try to keep up. According to you, you respect that opinion not just the right to express it. You respect the opinion that it's ok for growm men to rape boys. This isn't really shocking to tell you the truth.

i think you are confused......

Blah blah BS. This isn't about what white people can or can't do or any of that nonsense. Calling someone inferior is an insult. You denying that is just an example of how big of a piece of shyt you are. You will say anything at this point not matter how silly it is. You'll defend the intellectual freedom of child molesters and racists, but not the people who dissed Stacy Dash.

 

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Unless a hd porn of stacey dash dropped in here this should get locked


@BarNone

 

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The point of free speech is to allow the difference of opinion to play out.
If Stacey Dash says some ignorant sh1t she is allowed to do so.
BUT I'm also under free speech allowed to disagree and say what I want ABOUT her or BACK TO her.

 

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Hate? No, not in the least. It wouldn't be fair to hate someone as dumb/corny as you. Life is hard enough.

you can call it whatever you want, but the reality is that you already said that you have no beef with stacey dash, you came in this thread to just insult the God Emperor, which is

Your sub 80 IQ psychoanalysis of what those people were "trying" to do means nothing. You aren't any position to speak for those people and what they were trying to do. All you know is what they actually did, which was freely express themselves.

You aren't any position to speak for me either. I've done no such thing. I clearly said that I won't condemn or endorse the people who went in on Dash. The insults about her being a dumb sellout could be spot-on for all I know though.

The only thing being exposed here is your stupidity and dishonesty.

yeah my bad for trying to psycho analyze "Die whore die" im sure there is positive interpretation to that comment that contributes to intellectual freedom

all i said was that the comments, like "die whore die" for example, where over the top, emotional and contributing to an anti intellectual environment and you came in like and disagreed

and yeah, you refuse to condemn or endorse somebody telling someone to die because they expressed their opinion and you also clearly said that if insults discourage somebody from expressing their opinion you dont see anything wrong with that

therefore you are a nazi and unamerican

That analogy was to illustrate how stupid your "all opinions must be respected to have intellectual freedom" position is. Try to keep up. According to you, you respect that opinion not just the right to express it. You respect the opinion that it's ok for growm men to rape boys. This isn't really shocking to tell you the truth.

yeah, that is what i am saying, if somebody says and they honestly believe that romney should be president or white men are superior or that its ok to rape children, for the sake of intellectual freedom i will respect that opinion

you shouldn't be surprised at all, i have a record going back to sohh for standing up for intellectual freedom

Blah blah BS. This isn't about what white people can or can't do or any of that nonsense. Calling someone inferior is an insult. You denying that is just an example of how big of a piece of shyt you are. You will say anything at this point not matter how silly it is. You'll defend the intellectual freedom of child molesters and racists, but not the people who dissed Stacy Dash.

you can take that type of comment as an insult if you want, and it could very well be an insult, im not trying to tell you what you should be insulted about

but when you are talking about intellectualism, the notion or belief that black men are inferior has to be respected and argued against at an intellectual level, not just on some emotional fuk you level, and for example that is why frederick douglas was one of the greatest black americans ever, because when people told him black men where inferior, instead of saying fuk you, he publicly challenged that belief and broke it down why black people are not inferior and he laid the ground work for abolition and the future civil rights movement

point blank, its not intellectual to dismiss a statement because of your emotions

my belief is that the black man is God, so obviously i will vote for my fellow god, young hussein, simply because he's a god, i dont need any other reason beyond that and im not worried about stacey dash's opinion

white people thinking they are superior is not something that keeps me awake at night, its a free country