Squats and Deadlifts

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If you can pull it off try and see what comes out of it. But squatting 3 times a week with 80% of max weight is some crazy shyt. I dont know why they are pushin this shyt to such extreme.

I remember when I started I did something like this (listing only core exercises):

A.
Bench press 5x5 (80% of max)
Squat 5x5 (50%)

B.
Deadlift 5x5 (80%)
Push press 3x8

C.
Squat 5x5 (80%)
Bench press (50%)

Additionally there were one-two heavy compound exercises. We started this shyt with empty barbells :merchant:.

Even this program eventually led to disproportion. I wasnt able to increase weight in exercises on upper body but this fukking squat continued to grow. :shaq2:

The program you listed will certainly give you gains if you will eat shytloads of food. The gains will be concentrated below your waistline.
yeah, we start on the empty bar too (except for deadlifts and BBrow where we're suppose to start at 90 i think) and we add 5 pounds every session on each exercise (except on deadlifts we add 10 pounds every session)

so my squats and deads i've added 30 pounds every 2 weeks while all the rest i've added 15 pounds every two weeks.

as far as gains, it's kinda hard to measure on me cause i'm more on the overweight side. i lost some fat, i can definitely see it on my legs, my thighs are like a different shape slightly. lost some face fat. my upperbody looks the same to me but people who haven't seen me in a while ask me if i'm lifting and say i look different. but i think these might be newbie results.

i think another reason they spend so much time on squats and deads is that you will feel drained the most from them and probably burn more fat. when i come back from the gym i eat like CRAZY cause i'm so hungry and then i feel sleepy like i could sleep for four 5 hours. yet i'm still losing fat slowly. but it's hard for me to judge my muscle gains cause i still have some fat over them. i'd like to know what ectos who are on the program think about it.



EDIT: forgot to add, i'm following the program pretty much and dude says to keep following the plan til you reach about 1.5 bodyweight for 5X5 on squats. then he has an intermediate level program. i forgot what the intermediate looks like so i don't know if it has less lowerbody lifts.
 

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I'd love to see what the OP looks like *pause*... I refuse to take advise from someone who doesn't have a better physique than me...

Im going to do a test and skip squats and deadlifts for 2 weeks and see where that takes me....

Doubt it will do any good though....
 

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I'd love to see what the OP looks like *pause*... I refuse to take advise from someone who doesn't have a better physique than me...

Im going to do a test and skip squats and deadlifts for 2 weeks and see where that takes me....

Doubt it will do any good though....
Honestly not worth it bruh...

If I skip squats one week, my DL the following week suffers...
 

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slight sciatic nerve pain. shyt effects my left leg as well but not nearly as much. i've recovered for the most part. i can still run and sprint aand shyt. but i just cant do any lifting. shyt hurts too bad to do any back excersises.


i heard for people with major sciatic nerve pain can hardly walk.

Damn man. I feel you. I broke a vertebra and while the bone healed up pretty quick the nervous system damage stays with you. bruised my spinal cord Legs feel like pins and needles going through them. Theres no cure for it too, only time, eating right, resting, and assuming proper posture as frequently as you can

seriously dont subject yourself to overly strenuous exercise when you're going through back pain. youre starting from square one with this shyt.
 

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Spoken like a bicep curler who is too much of a bytch for squats and deadlifts
 

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I'd love to see what the OP looks like *pause*... I refuse to take advise from someone who doesn't have a better physique than me...

I've taken advice from some people with a less perfect looking body than me...a fat nikka helped me with my form.:leostare: Did 275x10 on squats and felt like a G. :takedat:
 

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I've taken advice from some people with a less perfect looking body than me...a fat nikka helped me with my form.:leostare: Did 275x10 on squats and felt like a G. :takedat:

Well I'll say this...

As far as aesthetics I won't take advice from someone with a lesser physique, but as far as strength, I won't take advice from someone who lifts less than me. Alot of powerlifters don't have the greatest physique, but they can throw up massive weight like nothing.
 

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reminds me of when i was in highschool and our old ass football coach came into the weight room and cranked out more on bench than anyone on the team besides seniors to show us how to do it

we were all feelin :flabbynsick:
 

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Well I'll say this...

As far as aesthetics I won't take advice from someone with a lesser physique, but as far as strength, I won't take advice from someone who lifts less than me. Alot of powerlifters don't have the greatest physique, but they can throw up massive weight like nothing.
i see what you're saying but the two are indirectly linked.

if you increase your strength, you can then do the same stuff you do for aesthetics but with heavier weights and maybe get better results or get them more efficiently.
 

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Damn man. I feel you. I broke a vertebra and while the bone healed up pretty quick the nervous system damage stays with you. bruised my spinal cord Legs feel like pins and needles going through them.

Theres no cure for it too, only time, eating right, resting, and assuming proper posture as frequently as you can
seriously dont subject yourself to overly strenuous exercise when you're going through back pain. youre starting from square one with this shyt.

this is basically what the doctor said and since i'm prior military i got a lifetime supply of Motrin 800 for free. i pop two every morning. other than that its just eating right and working out safely.

doctor also said that since i have this arch in my back gaining weight would make things worst. that shyt really scared me.
 

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so i'm thinking of starting these planks. how long should i do them for and how many?

as long as you feel comfortable, dont hold them to failure.

honestly i also recommend walking a lot as well, light exercise and just by nature you will correct your alignment a little
 
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