DrBanneker
Space is the Place
I agree the overall # of BW-WM pairs will increase but will there be a higher bias towards more educated WM than now? Especially when younger educated WM are in deficit to educated WW?
Spin: Educated Black women largely end up with the same kind of men (Black or White)
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I agree the overall # of BW-WM pairs will increase but will there be a higher bias towards more educated WM than now? Especially when younger educated WM are in deficit to educated WW?
Addressing the ‘double gap’ faced by Black women in the U.S. economy
Michelle Holder's work on the ‘double gap’ calls for more academic research and race-based policy solutions.
equitablegrowth.org
why do people keep talking like black women are out-anythinging black men when it comes to income? like i said in one of the other threads, the discussion of black marriage/relationships/dating comes up and people start framing shyt around people at the top. people keep laying out standards for black men as if we are getting lapped by black women when it's not even the case.
RickyDiBiase
The Sword of Jesus of Nazareth
Yeah by the sounds of things you ain’t had no coochie in a good while
And it ain’t got shyt to do with being an alpha but understanding a mfer character
bytches and cacs will and continue to say anything, and ya’ll for it. This ain’t no simp kick either. These hoes will holler all day long about what they want and end up settling. But yall in here falling for white noise
Addressing the ‘double gap’ faced by Black women in the U.S. economy
Michelle Holder's work on the ‘double gap’ calls for more academic research and race-based policy solutions.
why do people keep talking like black women are out-anythinging black men when it comes to income? like i said in one of the other threads, the discussion of black marriage/relationships/dating comes up and people start framing shyt around people at the top. people keep laying out standards for black men as if we are getting lapped by black women when it's not even the case.
They just have better media and are more active on social platforms
Exactly. Study after Study show how Black Men are the best fathers, but if you listen to Black Women tell it....
Feelings > Facts
Ideology >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Facts
Justin Nitsuj
Superstar
A lot of these mothafukkas on here really do put white people on a pedestal. Like to them, they think it's a step to greatness when one of them even pays some attention to them.
And this is why I will continue to shyt on pawgset and divestors at every chance I get for keep trying to go search for validation and equality from cacs and they will never give it to you, because they will eventually show their true nature.
And this is why I will continue to shyt on pawgset and divestors at every chance I get for keep trying to go search for validation and equality from cacs and they will never give it to you, because they will eventually show their true nature.
saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
No one lets their image gets shyt on constantly in public and is expected to play it off. You see how the jews play it.
Hell you see how the gays and trannies play it. Talk sideways about them and you lose everything.
Fillerguy
Veteran
Smooth brains still agruing against the data. c00nish Incel mind rot is real.
Ignore the "men" bytching about bw on sm.
Ignore the miserable bytches bytching about bm on sm.
They aren't real people.
Ignore the "men" bytching about bw on sm.
Ignore the miserable bytches bytching about bm on sm.
They aren't real people.
ogc163
Superstar
Assortative mating has become more and more prevalent, but it undermines the hypergamy narrative (that's not to imply hypergamy doesn't exist)
This forum and YT has become too wedded to Evolutionary Psychology stances.
This forum and YT has become too wedded to Evolutionary Psychology stances.
Because the conversation is framed by white-collar professional black women, not the working class.Addressing the ‘double gap’ faced by Black women in the U.S. economy
Michelle Holder's work on the ‘double gap’ calls for more academic research and race-based policy solutions.
why do people keep talking like black women are out-anythinging black men when it comes to income? like i said in one of the other threads, the discussion of black marriage/relationships/dating comes up and people start framing shyt around people at the top. people keep laying out standards for black men as if we are getting lapped by black women when it's not even the case.
ogc163
Superstar
Relevant article from several years ago...
RACE GAPS IN ASSORTATIVE MATING
"If we narrow our focus to those college graduates who do marry, the race gap remains clear: compared to whites, black college graduates are much more likely to have “married down,” in terms of education. White, married college graduates are slightly more likely (11% vs. 8%) to have a better-educated husband (i.e., with post-graduate qualfications). But the real race gap appears between those with equally-educated and less-educated husbands. Married, black college graduates are much more likely to have a husband with a lower level of education, compared to whites of a similar background (58% vs. 48%):"
Chrishaune
Veteran
GET Eboni Williams off TV.
That should be the goal now.
That should be the goal now.
I really pondered throwing this data out for a while. I am not into gender warring and I figured this may end up as that. However, I guess the Eboni Williams thread got me to go ahead and do it. To be clear:
This is not an anti-IR thread. If someone is happy with a White man or woman, good for them. I am not in the business of judging or shaming people over relationships.
This is also not a Black women should be ok with "dating down" thread which is another topic entirely. I think the bus driver question (an unskilled, low wage job) is a bit hard honestly. A skilled blue collar tradesman, a computer guy without a college degree, or a construction manager with a lot of experience would have been a more telling question, but I digress.
What I want to do is dead this theme (accepted by many Black men and women) that educated Black women are forced into IR in order to find a partner of educational parity or that Black women that date/marry out, particularly to White men, are usually getting a more equal (or higher level) partner than if they dated/married Black men. That just isn't true for most situations except the highest education (like PhD), and even then there still isn't a huge difference.
Again, marriage data is pretty spotty nationally so I used the birth records from the CDC Wonder natality database like in earlier posts. It basically collects birth cert data from across the Union over many year. Many birth questionnaires have the race and education of the mother and father.
In short, if you look at Black women that are
1. Prime marriage age (25-34)
2. Not Hispanic
3. Have a bachelors degree or higher
4. Have had at least one child from 2016-2021
First, 292k Black women in this group had kids with Black men and 26k had kids with White men. That's an 11X difference for all you Coli posters who keep claiming educated BW are all secret wenches and running to get away from Black men
Comparing the level of education of the Black and White men they have kids with is pretty telling. First, for both groups only slightly above 60% of the fathers has a bachelors or higher. Second the gap in % between WM with at least college and Black men is only 3%. That affects less than 1,000 BW in that time period from this data. Also over half that gap comes from the doctorate degree level (which is usually a BW also with a doctorate; data not shown).
Second, and important for those claiming educated BW who stay with BM "date down excessively", almost the same percentage of educated BW had kids with WM with a high school degree or less as with BM. Same with WM and BM with Associates degrees.
Finally, if you lump all men with some higher education (College+, Associates, some College) the gap almost disappears.
That's all I am saying. People should do what makes them happy but stop acting like people are leveling up in IR, it isn't true.
You don't get enough credit for the work you do brother