Soto or Nowhere: The Official 2024 New York Yankees Off-Season Thread

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The funny thing is Peter Alonso is a typical Yankee. Swing or miss guy; clean shaven, and would take advantage of YS dimensions.

I being a Mets fan don’t want it to happen, but it’s make a lot of sense to sign Pete.
Correct: he's everything we can't stand.

Pete would come here, hit .230, hit 40 homers, but suck dikk with RISP and be a butcher at 1B who can't go to DH because Stanton has 3 years left.

Here's a bad offseason for the Yankees:

Soto walking and then pivoting to...

signing Pete to any contract
overpaying Bregman
giving Gleyber a multi year deal
re-signing Verdugo to play every day again
trading for Mason Miller
trading Dominguez for anything (I'm way more open to trading Spencer Jones)
not releasing LeMahieu

I'm more willing to take a step back in 2025, but the argument against it is that Judge and Cole are getting older and we can't waste their primes. I'm not going all in to carry someone to a title who couldn't help himself. If that means falling back (which they should absolutely do if they lose Soto), so be it. We learned Judge ain't built for those moments and still don't know if Dominguez can cuz we chose not to play him.
 

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Now that Tremont brings it up...

Mason Miller was a starting pitcher.
I wonder why he's relegated to being a closer when he's basically the same guy as Paul Skenes.

And we saw what Skenes did.
 

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I'm a big Gerrit Cole fan, but at this point I'm on with letting him walk. He doesn't move the needle anymore at what he's making. He's had some very good years, but his best days are behind him and he's way too old to be paying him 30 million a year. You could buy his WAR for alot cheaper than that, even if it takes a few arms to make up the difference.

Starting pitchers these days are akin to NFL running backs: Grab the best ones as they enter the league, because once you put some miles on them they become a huge liability. The type of people shelling out the massive SP contracts are thinking back to the Nolan Ryan era and thinking that's what their money is buying. An ace will never give that sort of value ever again.
 

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Supposedly they have until Sunday night...

Honestly hope they just let him go and try to sign Corbin instead
If I was a Yankees fan, Burnes would scare me a little because his K rate has gonna down each year. He went from 13 Ks per 9, to 12 to 10 to 9 and this year it was down to 8.4 Ks per 9. Still respectable but not elite anymore.
 

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Supposedly they have until Sunday night...

Honestly hope they just let him go and try to sign Corbin instead
Corbin's low key not the pitcher he was 2 years ago either.

Basically it's

2 good years of Cole with 3 ehh to bad years after that vs. 3 good years of Burnes and 4 ehh to bad years after that.

And you have to be really really sure you can even get Burnes (to which then get both of them).

This offseason feels like we're trying to salvage Judge's and Cole's tenures as opposed to trying to build a sustainable team.


They're gonna pick up the option. The possibility of letting Cole go, seeing Burnes take the highest offer elsewhere just to run back to Cole and he peaces you out is probably the most likely outcome and when Rodon starts opening day you're gonna wonder what happened.
 

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Corbin's low key not the pitcher he was 2 years ago either.

Basically it's

2 good years of Cole with 3 ehh to bad years after that vs. 3 good years of Burnes and 4 ehh to bad years after that.

And you have to be really really sure you can even get Burnes (to which then get both of them).

This offseason feels like we're trying to salvage Judge's and Cole's tenures as opposed to trying to build a sustainable team.


They're gonna pick up the option. The possibility of letting Cole go, seeing Burnes take the highest offer elsewhere just to run back to Cole and he peaces you out is probably the most likely outcome and when Rodon starts opening day you're gonna wonder what happened.


You definitely make some great points although I guess I'd much rather just have a younger pitcher with less wear and tear than an older one but the safe option is to keep Cole rather than risk losing him and we all know that Cashman never takes any good risks. Although I feel like if we don't resign Soto we might as let everyone go including Cole but I know they'll never do that as our FO office is far too content to stay on on front side of the treadmill rather than start from scratch...plus we're not going to know Soto's future for months unfortunately.

I'm content knowing that this team is not serious about winning until cashman is gone.
 
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