Soto or Nowhere: The Official 2024 New York Yankees Off-Season Thread

[Derek Lee]

"It's right in front us."

 

[AnonymityX1000]

This season isn’t worth saving

But they banked all those wins early in the season?

 

[NYChase718]

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

But they banked all those wins early in the season?

They have the worst record in baseball over their last 35 games. They’re 25-27 over their last 52. They have 2 good hitters. They have no bench, nobody is held accountable for anything, and since there’s no leadership in the organization, nothing ever gets fixed. Until they purge the entire front office from top to bottom, they’ll be closer to a 100 loss season every year than they are to a parade through lower Manhattan. They have the single worst general manager in the history of North American pro sports running this team just from a roster construction and resource allocation standpoint alone. Then when you get to the fact that the toxic culture of arrogance despite not getting results and no accountability for anything stems entirely from him, he becomes the worst executive in the history of any sports team on the planet as far as I’m concerned. No executive gets less production out of their team than he does and it’s been this was for 20 years now. No point in trying to fix anything unless the fix starts with Steinbrenner firing Cashman and his entire front office. Until then every season is lost before it even starts.

This is the 5th year in a row and the 6th time in 7 years they either have gotten off to a bad start that doomed them or they completely collapse on themselves at midseason. You can set your stopwatch to it.

 

[NYChase718]

I’ve been saying blow it up since 2021 . No point in any sort of fire sale if the troll in the front office oversees it. This problem runs so much deeper than the roster, as bad as it is. No team gets less out of their players than this one does. That’s a problem that goes above the players.


I’d be willing to lose Soto in free agency and then Cole and Judge to trade demands if the trading was the finally clear out the front office.

They Get rid of guys like donaldson and hicks with other players who post the same stats… only thing that changes is the names on the lineup

 

[AnonymityX1000]

They have the worst record in baseball over their last 35 games. They’re 25-27 over their last 52. They have 2 good hitters. They have no bench, nobody is held accountable for anything, and since there’s no leadership in the organization, nothing ever gets fixed. Until they purge the entire front office from top to bottom, they’ll be closer to a 100 loss season every year than they are to a parade through lower Manhattan. They have the single worst general manager in the history of North American pro sports running this team just from a roster construction and resource allocation standpoint alone. Then when you get to the fact that the toxic culture of arrogance despite not getting results and no accountability for anything stems entirely from him, he becomes the worst executive in the history of any sports team on the planet as far as I’m concerned. No executive gets less production out of their team than he does and it’s been this was for 20 years now. No point in trying to fix anything unless the fix starts with Steinbrenner firing Cashman and his entire front office. Until then every season is lost before it even starts.

This is the 5th year in a row and the 6th time in 7 years they either have gotten off to a bad start that doomed them or they completely collapse on themselves at midseason. You can set your stopwatch to it.

Cashman has a proven track record he's not the worst GM working right now. But I totally agree with the state of the Yankees. They just need a new voice at the top, the guy has had the job too long. It's weird how they go from playing great to shyt year after year.

 

[Walter H White]

The playoffs against Boston is a one game sample size where everyone knew he shouldn’t have even been on the mound too. They should have just gone with an opener given how he needed a trip to the DL for his bad hamstring. That team was dead in the water anyway. That team started rougned odor, Kyle higashioka, Andrew Velazquez, and Joey Gallo in that game with gallo hitting cleanup.


His one playoff start vs Houston was an ok start where the offense got shut out. They had 3 hits that night and went 0-6 with runners in scoring position. Exactly what was he supposed to do that night to carry them to a win while the offense did nothing?

The sticky stuff dilemma was a whole bunch of nothing. He was the favorite to win the Cy Young that year until he got hurt in late August.


You’re talking about two total games like it’s a ten year run of getting beat by mediocre teams.

Postseason is always going to be small sample size for a starter unless you were a SP on them 90’s Braves or Yankees teams and had like 30 starts. Stop with the excuses. He started the game and got bombed by the Sox , like he always does (4.84 Career ERA). Astros game was not an ok start for an ace. 3 ER/ 5R in 5 innings is gutless. You might not remember, but the two unearned runs came after an error when he gave up a HR to Chaz. Instead of picking up his teammate, he got rattled. He sucked balls after Bauer outed him for the sticky stuff (2022 second half 4.12 ERA) and yes he rebounded the FOLLOWING year. Cy Young in a year with no pressure and team sucked... hats off to him either way. He is easily rattled for an ace in big games. He owns the Guardians, I'll give him that. He also isn't the only ace who isn't as good in the playoffs, (Pedro,Sale, etc).... and no he isn't Kershaw bad in the playoffs, but as a Yankee he bends and breaks in big games against rivals. No one is saying he isn't an ace, but he finds a way to lose in big games.

He has had 7 starts this year after the elbow issue and he has looked great in three, ok in another one, and terrible in three of them. Guess who he faced in those 3 games. Our hated rival and our little brother. Career ERA against Mets now over 6, Red Sox over 4.75 (noted above). Lets hope if we make the playoffs we face Guardians and Twins en route to the WS.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

They Get rid of guys like donaldson and hicks with other players who post the same stats… only thing that changes is the names on the lineup

All Cashman wants on this roster is garbage players is why. All he’s done since Steinbrenner died is beef with his stars and try to re-enact the “he gets on base” scene from moneyball where he passes on great players at positions of need and puts bad players who don’t fit the rest of the lineup on bad deals there instead. This team could easily have an outfield of Judge, Harper, and Soto to go with an infield with Freeman/Olson at first, maybe still Torres at second, Correa/Seager/Turner at shortstop, Machado or the guy from the Joey Gallo trade at third, and Realmuto at catcher. All it would’ve taken was a GM willing to spend on great players instead of spending just as much on players.

 

[Walter H White]

Please sell at the deadline. Too many holes to fix and not enough assets to acquire them. Keep Wells, Volpe, Martian, and Rice and hope they can be part of the next core.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Please sell at the deadline. Too many holes to fix and not enough assets to acquire them. Keep Wells, Volpe, Martian, and Rice and hope they can be part of the next core.

No point in selling unless Cashman is fired. He wasted the back half of the core 4, wasted the post 2009 title window, and has wasted the entire baby bomber era. They’ve developed 2 position players they’ve drafted and no pitchers into viable starters in the last 27 years. He’d 1000% waste another young core if he stumbled into one.

 

[Walter H White]

Peraza starting to hit again. He has a .770 OPS in July as he is further removed from his injury. Maybe cut JD now with 5 straight righty starters upcoming against us and call up Peraza.

 

[Ron Mexico]

This doesn't even include washed bums like Rizzo, Heaney, and Donaldson.

They aren't doing shyt at the deadline.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

This doesn't even include washed bums like Rizzo, Heaney, and Donaldson.

They aren't doing shyt at the deadline.

IKF, Rougned odor, Jose Trevino, the list goes on. He passes on stars without a second thought and then spends all his time dumpster diving. You’d think Hal would fire him on account of all the money he wastes on terrible players who don’t win or sell merch.

 

[NYChase718]

IKF, Rougned odor, Jose Trevino, the list goes on. He passes on stars without a second thought and then spends all his time dumpster diving. You’d think Hal would fire him on account of all the money he wastes on terrible players who don’t win or sell merch.

“Low risk high reward” … theres never a reward

 

[Michael's Black Son]

IKF, Rougned odor, Jose Trevino, the list goes on. He passes on stars without a second thought and then spends all his time dumpster diving. You’d think Hal would fire him on account of all the money he wastes on terrible players who don’t win or sell merch.

Him and Boone have overstated their welcome by a huge margin at this point and the wack shīt is the season is shaping up like a typical season in baseball because the Astros are magically awake, the O’s are temporarily not a punching bag this season — and the Yankees are looking like the damn Lakers just trying to scape by for a play-in aka the damn wild card.

Cashman gon botch the trade deadline and watch Soto dip after this season and some random team like the Brewers throw him a bag in November.