Sooo....no talk on Kiev's gradual descent into Mad Max beyond Thunderdome status??
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Putin gets all his movies and TV shows off torrents I'm sure. So it's no biggie.NetflixNow that just petty.
i read the nexflix sh1t and took it as a troll move. they can't be serious man.
is netflix that important? i've never visited the site..
of all the things they can do is suspend nexflix account?
i could see a real business site like paypal, amazon, ebay. or facebook even though Facebook isn't that important. but to come back with netflix just make these ppl look like amateurs.
Here’s What Rush Limbaugh Says Obama Should Do to Punish Russia – and Why He Won’t
i hate it when these cacs test barack's gangsta and give him ideas. they did the same thing with the somali pirates when he didn't know what to do and he took it off rush limbaugh's radio..
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...s-allies-should-do-to-punish-russia-but-wont/
i hate it when these cacs test barack's gangsta and give him ideas. they did the same thing with the somali pirates when he didn't know what to do and he took it off rush limbaugh's radio..
Wouldn't removing Russia from the G8 require the other 7 countries to unanimously vote to do it? I don't see that happening.
Not even that. I was listen to this political radio station and Russia has done worst things under different presidents of the past than Obama regime but we all know if you get a flat tire or if your team loses Blame Obama.
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Exactly like all these countries are innocent. They give America too much credit.
Support Russia, brehs 
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140319/188544777/Crimean-Tatars-Will-Have-to-Vacate-Land--Official.html
Crimean Tatars Will Have to Vacate Land – Official
Topic: Crimea’s Fate
Crimean tatars
© RIA Novosti. Taras Litvinenko
05:40 19/03/2014
Tags: Crimean Tatars, Rustam Temirgaliyev, Ukraine, Crimea, Russia
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MOSCOW, March 18 (RIA Novosti) – Ukraine’s breakaway region of Crimea will ask Tatars to vacate part of the land where they now live in exchange for new territory elsewhere in the region, a top Crimean government official said Tuesday.
Crimean Deputy Prime Minister Rustam Temirgaliyev said in an interview with RIA Novosti on Tuesday the new government in Crimea, where residents voted Sunday to become part of Russia, wants to regularize the land unofficially taken over by Crimean Tatar squatters following the collapse of the Soviet Union.
“We have asked the Crimean Tatars to vacate part of their land, which is required for social needs,” Temirgaliyev said. “But we are ready to allocate and legalize many other plots of land to ensure a normal life for the Crimean Tatars,” he said.
Temirgaliyev emphasized that members of the Tatar community could receive senior political positions in the new government, in an apparent move to ease ethnic tensions in the region.
“I think that Crimean Tatars will be well represented in the government and parliament,” he said.
The Crimean Tatars, a historic people of the region, were deported en masse to Central Asia by Soviet leader Joseph Stalin 70 years ago. Although many of them returned in the early 1990s, they were unable to reclaim the land they had possessed before their deportation.
Many Crimean Tatars have taken over unclaimed land as squatters by building houses, farms and mosques. Ukrainian authorities have in the past failed to settle the land disputes.
The Tatars, who make up 15 percent of Crimea’s population, remain amongst the staunchest supporters of the new government in Kiev that ousted President Viktor Yanukovych last month.
Crimea, a largely Russian-speaking autonomous republic within Ukraine, was part of Russia until it was gifted to Ukraine by Soviet leaders in 1954.
Putin signed a decree Monday recognizing Crimea as an independent state, following a referendum Sunday that saw voters on the peninsula overwhelmingly support secession and reunification with Russia.
Nearly 30 percent of Crimean Tatars voted in favor of reunification with Russia at Sunday’s referendum, Temirgaliyev said.
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140319/188544777/Crimean-Tatars-Will-Have-to-Vacate-Land--Official.html
Crimean Tatars Will Have to Vacate Land – Official
Topic: Crimea’s Fate
Crimean tatars
© RIA Novosti. Taras Litvinenko
05:40 19/03/2014
Tags: Crimean Tatars, Rustam Temirgaliyev, Ukraine, Crimea, Russia
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MOSCOW, March 18 (RIA Novosti) – Ukraine’s breakaway region of Crimea will ask Tatars to vacate part of the land where they now live in exchange for new territory elsewhere in the region, a top Crimean government official said Tuesday.
Crimean Deputy Prime Minister Rustam Temirgaliyev said in an interview with RIA Novosti on Tuesday the new government in Crimea, where residents voted Sunday to become part of Russia, wants to regularize the land unofficially taken over by Crimean Tatar squatters following the collapse of the Soviet Union.
“We have asked the Crimean Tatars to vacate part of their land, which is required for social needs,” Temirgaliyev said. “But we are ready to allocate and legalize many other plots of land to ensure a normal life for the Crimean Tatars,” he said.
Temirgaliyev emphasized that members of the Tatar community could receive senior political positions in the new government, in an apparent move to ease ethnic tensions in the region.
“I think that Crimean Tatars will be well represented in the government and parliament,” he said.
The Crimean Tatars, a historic people of the region, were deported en masse to Central Asia by Soviet leader Joseph Stalin 70 years ago. Although many of them returned in the early 1990s, they were unable to reclaim the land they had possessed before their deportation.
Many Crimean Tatars have taken over unclaimed land as squatters by building houses, farms and mosques. Ukrainian authorities have in the past failed to settle the land disputes.
The Tatars, who make up 15 percent of Crimea’s population, remain amongst the staunchest supporters of the new government in Kiev that ousted President Viktor Yanukovych last month.
Crimea, a largely Russian-speaking autonomous republic within Ukraine, was part of Russia until it was gifted to Ukraine by Soviet leaders in 1954.
Putin signed a decree Monday recognizing Crimea as an independent state, following a referendum Sunday that saw voters on the peninsula overwhelmingly support secession and reunification with Russia.
Nearly 30 percent of Crimean Tatars voted in favor of reunification with Russia at Sunday’s referendum, Temirgaliyev said.
Ukraine president gives Crimea leaders three hours to release navy chief
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Acting Ukrainian president Oleksandr Turchynov speaks during a session in Kiev on February 22, 2014 (AFP Photo/Yury Kirnichny)
Kiev (AFP) - Ukraine's acting president on Wednesday said Crimea's separatist leaders had three hours to release the detained head of the ex-Soviet state's navy or face "an adequate response".
Acting president Oleksandr Turchynov said in a statement that "unless Admiral (Sergiy) Gayduk and all the other hostages -- both military and civilian ones -- are released, the authorities will carry out an adequate response... of a technical and technological nature."
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Acting Ukrainian president Oleksandr Turchynov speaks during a session in Kiev on February 22, 2014 (AFP Photo/Yury Kirnichny)
Kiev (AFP) - Ukraine's acting president on Wednesday said Crimea's separatist leaders had three hours to release the detained head of the ex-Soviet state's navy or face "an adequate response".
Acting president Oleksandr Turchynov said in a statement that "unless Admiral (Sergiy) Gayduk and all the other hostages -- both military and civilian ones -- are released, the authorities will carry out an adequate response... of a technical and technological nature."
Kiev announces plans to withdraw Ukrainian troops from Crimea
Ukrainian servicemen come under pressure from Russian troops and local forces to abandon Crimean bases
A Ukrainian officer leaves the Ukrainian navy south headquarters base in Novoozerne after it was taken over by Russian forces Photograph: Filippo Monteforte/AFP/Getty
Ukrainian servicemen at bases around Crimea are gradually being smoked out by Russian troops and local self-defence forces using a mixture of attrition and threats, as well as the dawning realisation that Kiev has lost control over the peninsula and has no way of fighting to regain it.
On Wednesday, the day after Vladimir Putin announced to Russia's assembled political elites that Russia would absorb Crimea into its fold and a Ukrainian soldier was shot dead by a sniper at a base in Simferopol, a Kiev official announced that Ukraine was making plans to withdraw its troops from the peninsula. Andriy Parubiy said that Ukraine will withdraw its troops to the mainland and seek UN support to turn Crimea into a demilitarised zone, although it is unlikely that Russia will withdraw troops from a region it now considers to be home turf.
The announcement came after a day when pro-Russian militia took control of the Ukrainian naval headquarters in Sevastopol.
"We freed the prisoners inside this base. This is Russian territory: Moscow already accepted Crimea," said Vladimir Melnik, head of a local self-defence unit, shortly after the Russian flag was raised at the base. According to Melnik, several branches of the local militia had coordinated to orchestrate the storming of the site during the morning. "We are peaceful people, but we are military people and if we receive orders to storm we will follow them," he said. He said the civil defence units are under the command of the city administration.
"There was no fight, no resistance, the guys inside clearly understood what situation they are in," said Andrey Kochebarov, a deputy leader of local Cossacks. "This is the naval base headquarters so if they gave up this one, they will give them all up," he said.
In the hours that followed, the Ukrainian troops, who had been inside the besieged base for three weeks, slowly trickled out with their heads bowed. Morale is low and the soldiers say that they are uncertain what the future holds.
"We have no word from Kiev about what to do next," said Sergei, who has served as an officer in the Ukrainian army for 21 years and remained inside the building until the bitter end. "Of course there was no resistance [when the building was stormed], what are we meant to do, outnumbered and without weapons?" he said. Sergei denied the local militia's claims that the men inside were liberated: "This is a lie. We remained there of our own free will."
Sergei, who is from Sevastopol, said that he and the 50 colleagues who remained inside had been able to leave the building, but would not have been able to return if they did so. "I stayed because I swore an oath to the Ukrainian army," he said. He said the Ukrainian officers were not physically threatened, but they were kept without enough food and water, and the electricity was often shut off.
Outside, his tearful wife greeted him with a hug. "It's been a very difficult time. I was very anxious about his safety," she said. "I'm delighted to have him back".
Tough decisions lie ahead for all the troops in the Crimea region who have remained loyal to Ukraine. Russian and Crimean officials have issued an ultimatum to them to either join the Russian army or take the option of a safe passage out of the peninsula.
The commander of the Ukrainian navy, Serhiy Haiduk, was captured during the storming of the headquarters and was believed to have been taken into Russian detention. On Wednesday evening, acting Ukraine president Oleksandr Turchnynov gave the Russians and Crimean authorities three hours to free Haiduk or face "adequate responses, including of a technical and technological nature", without clarifying further.
There was no immediate time frame given for Parubiy's announcement that the troops would be relocated. Ukrainian politician Vitali Klitschko earlier said Ukraine should not recognise Russian rule over Crimea, but at the same time called for safe passage to be granted so that Ukrainian troops on the peninsula could withdraw to "temporary bases" elsewhere in Ukraine, to prevent further bloodshed. The Ukrainian government wanted to dispatch two ministers to Crimea on Wednesday to "resolve the situation", but were informed by Crimean authorities that they would not be allowed to enter the territory.
Russian and Crimean officials had earlier issued an ultimatum to the Ukrainian troops to either join the Russian army or take the option of a safe passage out of the peninsula.
The process of annexation continued apace on Wednesday, as Ukrainian signs were removed from government buildings. Russia's constitutional court reviewed the treaty to join Crimea to Russia and found it legal, and the parliament is expected to ratify the decision by the end of the week. Putin announced that a bridge to connect the Crimean peninsula to Russia across the two-mile Kerch Strait will be built, and will handle both rail and road transport.
Russia has already begun distributing passports in the region, said Konstantin Romodanovsky, head of Russia's Federal Migration Service: "Some passports were issued today, and the work will only get more intensive with each new day," he told RIA Novosti. He did not clarify what would happen with those Crimea residents who did not take up Russian citizenship.
Concerns have been voiced about the fate of Crimean Tatars, who make up around 13% of the population and on the whole are loyal to Kiev. They mostly boycotted the hastily organised referendum that returned a 97% vote for union with Russia. Crimean officials have already said some of them may have to return land to which they do not own proper legal rights. Many Tatars live on unregistered land; they were deported en masse during the Stalin era, and often found their property gone when they returned a generation later.
The most pressing issue remains what happens with the remaining Ukrainian servicemen in bases. Crimean authorities claimed that the officer who was shot dead on Tuesday was shot by a 17-year-old radical Ukrainian nationalist, which has been dismissed as implausible by authorities in Kiev.
A spokesperson for the defence ministry was unable to clarify how many soldiers are left on bases, saying he did not know himself. But at bases around the peninsula there was little fighting talk, and more of a sense of resignation that the territory has been lost.
Evgeniy Cherednichenko, an officer at the logistical command centre in Sevastopol, on Wednesday made the decision to abandon his position inside the besieged base. "It's a very difficult and complicated situation. We don't have proper information. In the end I just decided to pick up my personal stuff and leave," he said. "I have not deserted the Ukrainian army, I don't know what to do next."
The base is surrounded by Russian troops, and through the wire fence it is possible to see the Ukrainian troops moving around. A sniper sits calmly on top of a garage watching the men below.
Speaking by telephone from inside the base, lieutenant colonel Aleksandr Lusyan said: "Kiev should have given the order to use weapons at the beginning, because then we could fight back, but they were afraid to give this command because they were afraid to spill blood. Now we are outnumbered and we cannot fight back".
Ukrainian servicemen come under pressure from Russian troops and local forces to abandon Crimean bases
Email- Harriet Salem and Shaun Walker
- The Guardian, Wednesday 19 March 2014 14.30 EDT
A Ukrainian officer leaves the Ukrainian navy south headquarters base in Novoozerne after it was taken over by Russian forces Photograph: Filippo Monteforte/AFP/Getty
Ukrainian servicemen at bases around Crimea are gradually being smoked out by Russian troops and local self-defence forces using a mixture of attrition and threats, as well as the dawning realisation that Kiev has lost control over the peninsula and has no way of fighting to regain it.
On Wednesday, the day after Vladimir Putin announced to Russia's assembled political elites that Russia would absorb Crimea into its fold and a Ukrainian soldier was shot dead by a sniper at a base in Simferopol, a Kiev official announced that Ukraine was making plans to withdraw its troops from the peninsula. Andriy Parubiy said that Ukraine will withdraw its troops to the mainland and seek UN support to turn Crimea into a demilitarised zone, although it is unlikely that Russia will withdraw troops from a region it now considers to be home turf.
The announcement came after a day when pro-Russian militia took control of the Ukrainian naval headquarters in Sevastopol.
"We freed the prisoners inside this base. This is Russian territory: Moscow already accepted Crimea," said Vladimir Melnik, head of a local self-defence unit, shortly after the Russian flag was raised at the base. According to Melnik, several branches of the local militia had coordinated to orchestrate the storming of the site during the morning. "We are peaceful people, but we are military people and if we receive orders to storm we will follow them," he said. He said the civil defence units are under the command of the city administration.
"There was no fight, no resistance, the guys inside clearly understood what situation they are in," said Andrey Kochebarov, a deputy leader of local Cossacks. "This is the naval base headquarters so if they gave up this one, they will give them all up," he said.
In the hours that followed, the Ukrainian troops, who had been inside the besieged base for three weeks, slowly trickled out with their heads bowed. Morale is low and the soldiers say that they are uncertain what the future holds.
"We have no word from Kiev about what to do next," said Sergei, who has served as an officer in the Ukrainian army for 21 years and remained inside the building until the bitter end. "Of course there was no resistance [when the building was stormed], what are we meant to do, outnumbered and without weapons?" he said. Sergei denied the local militia's claims that the men inside were liberated: "This is a lie. We remained there of our own free will."
Sergei, who is from Sevastopol, said that he and the 50 colleagues who remained inside had been able to leave the building, but would not have been able to return if they did so. "I stayed because I swore an oath to the Ukrainian army," he said. He said the Ukrainian officers were not physically threatened, but they were kept without enough food and water, and the electricity was often shut off.
Outside, his tearful wife greeted him with a hug. "It's been a very difficult time. I was very anxious about his safety," she said. "I'm delighted to have him back".
Tough decisions lie ahead for all the troops in the Crimea region who have remained loyal to Ukraine. Russian and Crimean officials have issued an ultimatum to them to either join the Russian army or take the option of a safe passage out of the peninsula.
The commander of the Ukrainian navy, Serhiy Haiduk, was captured during the storming of the headquarters and was believed to have been taken into Russian detention. On Wednesday evening, acting Ukraine president Oleksandr Turchnynov gave the Russians and Crimean authorities three hours to free Haiduk or face "adequate responses, including of a technical and technological nature", without clarifying further.
There was no immediate time frame given for Parubiy's announcement that the troops would be relocated. Ukrainian politician Vitali Klitschko earlier said Ukraine should not recognise Russian rule over Crimea, but at the same time called for safe passage to be granted so that Ukrainian troops on the peninsula could withdraw to "temporary bases" elsewhere in Ukraine, to prevent further bloodshed. The Ukrainian government wanted to dispatch two ministers to Crimea on Wednesday to "resolve the situation", but were informed by Crimean authorities that they would not be allowed to enter the territory.
Russian and Crimean officials had earlier issued an ultimatum to the Ukrainian troops to either join the Russian army or take the option of a safe passage out of the peninsula.
The process of annexation continued apace on Wednesday, as Ukrainian signs were removed from government buildings. Russia's constitutional court reviewed the treaty to join Crimea to Russia and found it legal, and the parliament is expected to ratify the decision by the end of the week. Putin announced that a bridge to connect the Crimean peninsula to Russia across the two-mile Kerch Strait will be built, and will handle both rail and road transport.
Russia has already begun distributing passports in the region, said Konstantin Romodanovsky, head of Russia's Federal Migration Service: "Some passports were issued today, and the work will only get more intensive with each new day," he told RIA Novosti. He did not clarify what would happen with those Crimea residents who did not take up Russian citizenship.
Concerns have been voiced about the fate of Crimean Tatars, who make up around 13% of the population and on the whole are loyal to Kiev. They mostly boycotted the hastily organised referendum that returned a 97% vote for union with Russia. Crimean officials have already said some of them may have to return land to which they do not own proper legal rights. Many Tatars live on unregistered land; they were deported en masse during the Stalin era, and often found their property gone when they returned a generation later.
The most pressing issue remains what happens with the remaining Ukrainian servicemen in bases. Crimean authorities claimed that the officer who was shot dead on Tuesday was shot by a 17-year-old radical Ukrainian nationalist, which has been dismissed as implausible by authorities in Kiev.
A spokesperson for the defence ministry was unable to clarify how many soldiers are left on bases, saying he did not know himself. But at bases around the peninsula there was little fighting talk, and more of a sense of resignation that the territory has been lost.
Evgeniy Cherednichenko, an officer at the logistical command centre in Sevastopol, on Wednesday made the decision to abandon his position inside the besieged base. "It's a very difficult and complicated situation. We don't have proper information. In the end I just decided to pick up my personal stuff and leave," he said. "I have not deserted the Ukrainian army, I don't know what to do next."
The base is surrounded by Russian troops, and through the wire fence it is possible to see the Ukrainian troops moving around. A sniper sits calmly on top of a garage watching the men below.
Speaking by telephone from inside the base, lieutenant colonel Aleksandr Lusyan said: "Kiev should have given the order to use weapons at the beginning, because then we could fight back, but they were afraid to give this command because they were afraid to spill blood. Now we are outnumbered and we cannot fight back".
well they damn sure did suspend Russia...