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It sounds like she's mad that she isn't getting 100 percent of publishing on songs she wrote, which makes no sense.
Songwriter calls out Beyoncé for stealing writing credits
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It sounds like she's mad that she isn't getting 100 percent of publishing on songs she wrote, which makes no sense.
Richard Glidewell
Superstar
If you write a song and agree to collab, every person whose hands that song is passed too even if they only change the structure gets a credit.......Beyonce is visible and easy to go after. There is literally nothing strange or unusual about artists singing songs written by other people........nothing new.........people telling on them selves trying to compare the old and the new.......
David_TheMan
Banned
False, Luther Vandross wrote many of his hits, he was known for his songwriting first.
Never too Much, Here and Now, Power of Love, Bad Boy/Having a part, etc.
FeverPitch2
Superstar
It's your intellectual property. You're supposed to own it.
That's why so many people get swindled so easily for their publishing because they think like you.
You think that way because you don't have a clue on how the music industry works.
The industry takes advantage of that ignorance. You don't have to give it away or sell it.
Owning your publishing for songs you write is not a novel idea. It's what's supposed to happen.
Plenty of people own their publishing. It's not a rarity.
Prince, Michael, Phil Collins, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Sting, Stevie, Nile Rodgers, Erick Sermon, RZA, the list is endless.
Remember hearing a planet money podcast I think it was like.... Almost more than a decade ago where they talked about all the people behind Rihanna specifically. It's a crazy amount of people behind what these people do to the smallest detail. She literally just sings the song and that's it. Just a pretty front face
Edit: couldn't find the whole podcast but found this. This is just a snippet.
They do talk about the writing camp stuff
But She's literally operating as a ghost writer, not an artist allowing others to sample her work.
Of course the writer should own the publishing and get the lion share of the publishing... but I don't see why the person who actually records the song, adds ad-libs to the song and other vocal flourishes, promotes the song, performs the song wouldn't get a cut
Its not song writing credits
She ain’t the Michael Jackson of shyt. Stop repeating that same tired ass talking point. Michael was universal, Beyoncé has a niche demographic who she panders to, not the same.
Crayola Coyote
Superstar
And then people wonder why she doesn't win AOTY
Has a factory of writers writing her shyt then taking their credit afterwards
Welp she will never get work again..
BaileyPark31
Love, Peace, Health, and Wealth
But it didn't sound like Beyonce "stole" anything from Kelis herself.
It sounds like she cleared the sample by whomever owns it (Pharell? Neptunes?), but Kelis objected to it as the original singer.
Beyonce removed it due the pushback from Kelis but didn't legally have to.
daemonova
hit it, & I didn't go Erykah Badu crazy, #yallmad
And then people wonder why she doesn't win AOTY
Has a factory of writers writing her shyt then taking their credit afterwards
Nicca, Taylor swift don't write her own shiet and if you believe she do, you're on crack
It’s called the music business, not music charity for a reason. If you didnt have your paperwork in order in black and white then you willingly gave away your work. These are just accusations on the internet, anyway. Who knows where the truth really lies.nikkas in here defending the theft out right. nikkas is living hand to mouth writing hits and y'all telling them to hire lawyers. fukk are you even talking about???
Also, one can easily seek legal counsel if you’re involved in songwriting circles of a Bey or Rihanna. Any lawyer would see future dollar signs. Songwriters get the bag.
Mission249
All Star
Even tho I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift's work, there's a level of singer-songwriter authenticity there that I respect way more than say a Rihanna who just walks off her yacht once a year for 30 minutes; picks a bunch of fully formed hits; then "adds" some ad-libs like "Ayeee" and gets writing credit/money.
They drop an album then our whole community goes crazy about how "brilliant" the artist is not knowing that brilliance is built on the backs of fukking over other people who look like us.
For a while at least we knew rap was authentic. But with the dawn of Drake and the current Kanye, they all got song factories too.
At least the performers in the past were uniquely talented (vocals, dancing, performing) and writers behind the scenes got their due. But now everyone wants to front like they're singer-songwriters.