Someone caught Jaz-O on the subway

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Breh,Dame and Biggs dont know Jaz the way Jay does...

Jay could have easily stepped in and did what he had to do..

Dash running the everyday operation has nothing to do with what Im saying...

If you see nikkas trying to shyt on a man who help you get started in the game,you stop that shyt ASAP....

This isnt some random nikka on the street...

So being that Jay let that even slide was fukked up on his part
was The Roc even established yet at that point? Did they have a multi million budget? what year was that? i heard a story of Jay and Dame giving baskets with champagne to radio station DJs brownosing hoping to get play and from the way they were telling the story it seemed like for them it was a big deal money wise.
 

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How can you respect jay when his man is living bad?
clowns talk about all the money he has but the people he came up with are broke.
 

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Breh,Dame and Biggs dont know Jaz the way Jay does...

Jay could have easily stepped in and did what he had to do..

Dash running the everyday operation has nothing to do with what Im saying...

If you see nikkas trying to shyt on a man who help you get started in the game,you stop that shyt ASAP....

This isnt some random nikka on the street...

So being that Jay let that even slide was fukked up on his part
Jungle is Nas Brother...from the womb...and that nikka probably on the ebt card...if you try and help or did help or offered help then you do not need to help forever...nikkas parents throw nikkas out at 18 lol...even they get it
 

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was The Roc even established yet at that point? Did they have a multi million budget? what year was that? i heard a story of Jay and Dame giving baskets with champagne to radio station DJs brownosing hoping to get play and from the way they were telling the story it seemed like for them it was a big deal money wise.

This was prolly during the Jigga what,jigga who times
 

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Jungle is Nas Brother...from the womb...and that nikka probably on the ebt card...if you try and help or did help or offered help then you do not need to help forever...nikkas parents throw nikkas out at 18 lol...even they get it

Im not saying your wrong..

Offering slave deals is not helping at all..
 

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Im not saying your wrong..

Offering slave deals is not helping at all..
this slave deal you speak of...it can't be worse than having an actual everyday job...maybe Jay should have said hey man the fruit packing factory is hiring...good luck :skip:
 

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this slave deal you speak of...it can't be worse than having an actual everyday job...maybe Jay should have said hey man the fruit packing factory is hiring...good luck :skip:

What type of comparison is that?

No one is saying Jaz should have gotten a 50 cent deal,but he should have gotten a favorable one..No more No less...
 

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i know alot of wanabe class clowns and jokesters and cornballs will be in here clowning talking about struggle this and that, but this dudes time was nearly 30 years ago and he at the very least had a gold record and mentored one of the greatest rappers of this generation. i read a comment about "oh this is what happens when you burn bridges" what bridge did beanie burn, or the rest of them? how about ja rule?

the fact is, hov is not gonna be there for anyone who doesnt serve a purpose at the time he needs them. for jaz o he kept intact what he felt was his integrity and hes not homeless/doesnt have a drug problem and is living life knowing he had his time. most of us will never have a "time" or be apart of any "era"

yall so quick to judge when you havent accomplished shyt and never will (some of you)


not all of us want to be entertainers....
 

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200K i mean ehhh.... i think a lot of it probably stems from the fact jazo had been pimped by a cult and once he broke free probably wanted to stand on his own for what he felt. There are ups and downs to that, but honestly this picture doesnt look crazy to me, dude looks like a regular 50 year old dude in nyc. of the dudes who did sign to the roc, only camron ever really made noteworthy paper... i mean you got like 6 rappers and like 3 r&b dudes and they all probably in the same situation as jazo, just regular dudes. i wonder why folks are so shocked and find this so pitiful what do you think the career of a rapper is like?
do the math
300K upfront for a record deal that woulda probably lasted 5 years... thats 60K a year... plenty of dudes make 2 times that and still ride the trains in nyc and wear the same kinda clothes, and buy chinese food
record deals don't work in years.. they work in albums... and jaz had zero buzz.. so that money was a gift.. nobody was checking for a jaz-o album then or now to be giving him no damn 300k or 100k


and he was jay's man who got him in the game.. you think jay wouldn't have looked out?? he obviously was with this overpaid deal. jaz was talking bout he was WORTH MORE... like his skills garnered him more money than he was offered....


how'd that work out with other companies and what they offered you??? oh yea... it didn't


jay gave him life when nikkas was forgetting he mc'd and he thought he should have a million dollar deal
 

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What type of comparison is that?

No one is saying Jaz should have gotten a 50 cent deal,but he should have gotten a favorable one..No more No less...
Not 700 people on earth was going to buy a Jaz-0 album...so if Jay said I will give you 5 million dollars but I own all the future profits and rights...even if it was that scandalous which I doubt...he should have cashed out.
 

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Jay and them offered Jaz a bum ass deal he felt he was way below his worth so he didn't sign it, same with Sauce Money... Before Bleek dropped a debut album, Jay was their only artist, the main priority, remember Reasonable Doubt didn't sell enough for them to start signing nikkas with deals to compete with other labels... So Jaz felt slighted with the offer and opted to stay a free agent while his prime basically dwindled into obscurity minus the brief comeback, unfortunately the beef deaded him for good it seems!.......
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he offered him the deal after he sold 5 million... with him on a single.. and in the video... on one of the hottest songs on the 5 million selling album
and dude turned it down

what exactly did he do after that?? not a damn thing.. so all the people talking bout "it wasn't that much and what do you expect" like that was all he'd get...
no he'd get that... plus more exposure.. which would lead to more show $$, more feature $$, more looks and press...

what do I expect?? I expect you to make that money and flip it.. invest, buy some real estate.. at least a car... anybody hear bleek complaining lately?? say what you want but he took that deal which had to be way worse back then, and played his position to the point of 4-5 albums, numerous features and still doing shows to this day.. getting paid being a hype man, more than most of us in this thread get paid

shyt young chris could get more for a feature than jaz-o right now and we acting like turning that deal was a smart idea in hindsight

funny how jay said "and I'ma let karma catch up to jaz-o" now we have this pic while jay is jay
 

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Not 700 people on earth was going to buy a Jaz-0 album...so if Jay said I will give you 5 million dollars but I own all the future profits and rights...even if it was that scandalous which I doubt...he should have cashed out.

Fam...Do you know easy it was to sell 500k during that time just off association?

nikkas like nature was going gold back then

Breh,the roc wasnt giving out deals like that:comeon:

Jaz prolly got the new nikka slave deal
 
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