Somebody explain to me..exluding the beats..whats so good about Ross?

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Some niqqa asked, excluding the beats, whats good about kanye?

pick up college dropout
and then pick up dark fantasy

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ricky still on that same shiit brehs
 

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if someone wants to tier Ross up with them..they have the right to, its their opinion...whats annoying is people not being able to handle other people's opinions...trying to pass off their own musical judgement as fact

There's a difference between liking who u like and putting things in an objective perspective...if a nikka told u Souljah Boy was the GOAT there is literally NO legitimacy to the claim...there's artists who I put in an all time top 10 that I'm not even huge fans of...
 

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I stopped reading soon as u mentioned the clipse, wtf is so creative about what the clipse were doing, the same thing that u said about ross could be said about them also, I'm not understanding your point.

your comparing him to jay and rae who are legends and both are a influence to ross but bring up the clipse who talk about the same shyt on every song :childplease:

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You asked "how is he not original", and he named several rappers that Ross sounds like. That's how he's unoriginal. Whether or not The Clipse sound the same on every song has nothing to do with anything. If you want to toss them in the same "unoriginal" boat as Ross go for it, the difference is nobody is comparing them to BIG or ODing on how great they are.

Fred.
 

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You asked "how is he not original", and he named several rappers that Ross sounds like. That's how he's unoriginal. Whether or not The Clipse sound the same on every song has nothing to do with anything. If you want to toss them in the same "unoriginal" boat as Ross go for it, the difference is nobody is comparing them to BIG or ODing on how great they are.

Fred.

Basically..and I think Ross is dope...Spitta is one of my FAV artists right now and he gets the same complaints about how his production saves him...I think he's all around dope but I wouldn't play myself and put him in an all time GOAT list...and I think dude makes GREAT music...
 

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The thing is this is people on the internet exaggerating with the BIG and greatest of all time talk and in real life they enjoy it for just good music while people who make threads on the internet about how much they hate him log off and really feel that way.


"he's repetitive" that's all I'm hearing. Umm...who are these amazing rappers ya'll are listening to? Quit acting like rick ross is 2 chainz or waka flocka he can rap. Why do peoples overly positive opinions cause other people to form negative ones? That doesn't make sense to me.
 
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The thing is this is people on the internet exaggerating with the BIG and greatest of all time talk and in real life they enjoy it for just good music while people who make threads on the internet about how much they hate him log off and really feel that way.


"he's repetitive" that's all I'm hearing. Umm...who are these amazing rappers ya'll are listening to? Quit acting like rick ross is 2 chainz or waka flocka he can rap. Why do peoples overly positive opinions cause other people to form negative ones? That doesn't make sense to me.

Thats the thing tough..I dont hate him..Teflon Don was a great album..he really stepped up his shiit on there.

But hes not this all time great these people are talking about..you can throw the "its your opinion" card at me..but let be realistic..I rarely seen a fan base overrate their idol like they do with Ross.
 

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You asked "how is he not original", and he named several rappers that Ross sounds like. That's how he's unoriginal. Whether or not The Clipse sound the same on every song has nothing to do with anything. If you want to toss them in the same "unoriginal" boat as Ross go for it, the difference is nobody is comparing them to BIG or ODing on how great they are.

Fred.

:sitdown: ross sounds nothing like none of the rappers mentioned especially not the clipse, by your logic nobody in the game is original right now and never has been, everybody copies off somebody one point of time.
 

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if someone wants to tier Ross up with them..they have the right to, its their opinion...whats annoying is people not being able to handle other people's opinions...trying to pass off their own musical judgement as fact


in your mind, he can be the best rapper of all time. but when we're in a collective of different hip hop fans posting and weighing in, you are not going to be able to get em all to agree on that. and not even most. those who have a lot of time put into hip hop, and knowledge will know better. you just are going to have to accept that. you can imagine him as the best all day, but the fact is most don't agree

so while we're all here discussing the music and what everyone likes about it, you got to make a real point or just step and keep doing what you're doing. but when we come together to decide it, the majority is going to decide.

and before anyone wants to be ignorant and claim that it's an "elitist" stance, it's really not. it's what the majority who are from it come together and say. see it stops being subjective when we're all discussing it and evaluating it off the past of the music.
 

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The thing is this is people on the internet exaggerating with the BIG and greatest of all time talk and in real life they enjoy it for just good music while people who make threads on the internet about how much they hate him log off and really feel that way.

"he's repetitive" that's all I'm hearing. Umm...who are these amazing rappers ya'll are listening to? Quit acting like rick ross is 2 chainz or waka flocka he can rap.

Huh? People thought BIG was the GOAT before he died. I don't, and never did, but it ain't some recent internet thing.

Ross is very nice compared to the rappers out now. The problem is, his fans aren't comparing him to Waka Flocka or 2Chainz....they're comparing him to all-time greats.

And in that context, he's an inferior version of the same shyt Rae, Scarface, Jay, Kool G Rap, BIG, etc. was rapping about 10-20 years ago. :manny:

Fred.
 

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it's the production breh :manny:

at the end of the day nikkas will accept trash on a dope beat...then dope lyrics on a trash beat. Now IM not saying Ross is trash, IM just saying his choice in production is top notch and that's half the battle.
 
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