Somebody, Anybody.....#DoSomething: 2019 FSU Seminoles

[Lucky_Lefty]

The team has taken on taggarts mentality and demeanor.

He is laid back so they play laid back and lackluster

he shows no fire so they play with zero fire and passion.

Dude stands on the sidelines like he is just collecting a check

So what nikka? You want him Woody Hayes’ing kids on the sidelines? All that rah rah shyt would get side eyed like shyt by them kids cause they know it wouldn’t be authentic coming from him. Maybe some
Of the other coaches on should be playing the bad cop y’all so desperately want to see

 

[tjax03]

So what nikka? You want him Woody Hayes’ing kids on the sidelines? All that rah rah shyt would get side eyed like shyt by them kids cause they know it wouldn’t be authentic coming from him. Maybe some
Of the other coaches on should be playing the bad cop y’all so desperately want to see

U stupid as hell. This type of reasoning is why america soft these days and why trump ass is president

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

U stupid as hell. This type of reasoning is why america soft these days and why trump ass is president

JWonder got a second account y’all

 

[Champ_KW]

The energy is largely better than it was a year ago, and that’s great, but the accumulation of talent and overall development of this roster is still lightyears away from Clemson’s level. Some questions that I have about eventually building a roster that can get to a Clemson-like state include:

• When can FSU build an offensive line that can block the likes of Clemson? Dontae Lucasis going to be a stud, but who else is getting markedly better? Should we be seeing FSU try young guys like Darius Washington and Ira Henry to see if they can bring some more physicality to the group? The fact FSU hasn't identified or secured a future left tackle to eventually anchor the line is concerning given that the staff identified it as a major position of need upon arriving here.
• When does a dual-threat quarterback capable of mastering Taggart’s desired spread scheme arrive and get ready to play? Jeff Sims is coming in as an early enrollee and he has a ton of promise, but he's also considered a signal caller who needs some serious polish before he's ready to efficiently lead an offense.
• Who are the future trench defenders who can replace the likes of Marvin Wilson and Cory Durden when they’re gone? I like some underclassmen like Dennis Briggs Jr. and Tru Thompson, but are they going to dominate games like Wilson and Durden? Are there elite edge rushers in the fold?
• If your top skill players Cam Akers and Tamorrion Terry leave after this season, who replaces them? At least FSU currently has some blue-chip recruits secured in the 2020 class (i.e. Malachi Wideman, RB Jaylan Knighton, RB Lawrance Toafili and WR Ja'Khi Douglas).

And without surefire answers waiting in the wings at major positions of need -- i.e. offensive line and pass rusher -- I don’t know how many years away FSU is from having a chance at competing against a team like Clemson

FSU is maybe another year away. One of the biggest issues with FSU after 2013, is that they never blew anybody out. Couple that with Jimbo's penchant for not really playing freshmen, and you have what we see now. Gotta create competitive depth and within another year, the bulk of the team should be filled with kids that got the necessary S&C work and game reps. Pay attention to what Clemson is really doing. Dabo never recruited lights out at first. But he created competitive depth. And when they got good enough to blow teams out, he sent those young kids out there to get reps. One game last year I think he played over 100 kids. By the time their time came to start/play big minutes, they are truly ready. Look at most of FSU depth on the two deep. Bunch of pups. But they'll be better for it in the long run. King at Houston is the wild card. He comes next year and it speeds the process up cause the defense and offense is good enough to win 10 games. Hell, the fanbase whines over the product now and we're still staring 8-9 in the face. The climb really aint that far away.

 

[Lootpack]

U stupid as hell. This type of reasoning is why america soft these days and why trump ass is president

 

[Champ_KW]

The team has taken on taggarts mentality and demeanor.

He is laid back so they play laid back and lackluster

he shows no fire so they play with zero fire and passion.

Dude stands on the sidelines like he is just collecting a check

All that yelling and cussing didnt work to well for Trickett and getting elite O Linemen to come play for him, did it? All that facemask grabbing and going berserk had Jimbo issuing promise notes to get his team to "match his fire" after watching UNC play with more passion. You and these cac talking points. I guess showing up a kicker on the sidelines while up 30 points and a few seconds away from going into the locker room (where you can legitimately tear into the kicker if you're 'that' pissed) is the model demeanor for a coach that cares, huh? Y'all looking for anything to be negative about.

 

[darius19]

that dude Terry is a beast of a receiver not gonna lie. I dont watch y’all games but just looking at the highlights dude looks like a 1st rounder.

 

[tjax03]

All that yelling and cussing didnt work to well for Trickett and getting elite O Linemen to come play for him, did it? All that facemask grabbing and going berserk had Jimbo issuing promise notes to get his team to "match his fire" after watching UNC play with more passion. You and these cac talking points. I guess showing up a kicker on the sidelines while up 30 points and a few seconds away from going into the locker room (where you can legitimately tear into the kicker if you're 'that' pissed) is the model demeanor for a coach that cares, huh? Y'all looking for anything to be negative about.

Last i checked we were elite with trickett and jimbo.

won a national title too.


With taggart and his quiet self we are a mid major team

 

[Champ_KW]

Last i checked we were elite with trickett and jimbo.

won a national title too.


With taggart and his quiet self we are a mid major team

If you gave Willie a two year head start as coach in waiting without any of the Ls landing on his record to recruit and root out the cancers, you'd be singing a different tune. Without that head start, even $75M can keep him from being a .500 coach in year 2. Its odd how the fanbase continues to suck off a dude that left the program in shambles but wanna act like the new guy has to be perfect 18 games in. "Last time you checked we were elite under Trickett and Jimbo", huh? Last time I checked we were 5-6 under those guys.

 

[Woodwerkz]

FSU is maybe another year away. One of the biggest issues with FSU after 2013, is that they never blew anybody out. Couple that with Jimbo's penchant for not really playing freshmen, and you have what we see now. Gotta create competitive depth and within another year, the bulk of the team should be filled with kids that got the necessary S&C work and game reps. Pay attention to what Clemson is really doing. Dabo never recruited lights out at first. But he created competitive depth. And when they got good enough to blow teams out, he sent those young kids out there to get reps. One game last year I think he played over 100 kids. By the time their time came to start/play big minutes, they are truly ready. Look at most of FSU depth on the two deep. Bunch of pups. But they'll be better for it in the long run. King at Houston is the wild card. He comes next year and it speeds the process up cause the defense and offense is good enough to win 10 games. Hell, the fanbase whines over the product now and we're still staring 8-9 in the face. The climb really aint that far away.

Somewhat. What he does is play them at meaningful times to keep them engaged. Think about last years Syracuse game...key last drive and Xavier Thomas is put in as a true freshman and gets a sack.

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

 

[klutch2381]

Man, I don’t know. I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about this shyt and I just don’t know. I don’t know how anyone at this point can be 100% CERTAIN Taggart is the guy. Honestly, based on things I’ve heard and what I’ve seen then thus far, I’m more inclined to say he’s not the guy. I’ve racked my brain trying to think of a successful college coach that has Taggart’s demeanor. The NFL is a different animal. Even a guy like Richt is more demonstrative than Taggart. I think maybe Bill Snyder? That’s the closest I can think of, and that’s one guy. There’s something to be said about evaluating the luminaries of any industry and determining what personality traits they have in common. There’s untold numbers of books written on that kinda stuff, but genuinely and overwhelmingly most successful college football coaches do not have a personality anywhere near Taggart’s. If Willie is successful, he’s going to be an extreme outlier.

Beyond the sloppy play, beyond the penalties, beyond the emotional stuff, etc. What irks me the most is that our guys get beat by a WR. They make a mistake, etc. And they come to the sideline and no one says anything to them. No one is coaching them up. I noticed it last year, really. It’s basically like dudes are coaching themselves on some Longest Yard shyt.

We also are going to lose a lot of talent this offseason, so I’m not sure how we’re supposed lose three of the top five players on the team (anyway you rank them) and be better next year. Regardless, either this year or next he’s going to have to be able to win with less than ideal FSU talent, which is still a considerable amount of talent.

This is what Taggart wrote last year before the season started about his expectations:


“My vision for this program isn’t complicated. The standard has already been set by those before me. When Florida State is where it’s supposed to be, everyone knows what to expect.

We expect to be ranked in the Top 5. We expect to win the ACC. And we expect to win every game.

Every single year.

What I want to make clear is that we aren’t running from those expectations. We’re embracing them. Every time Florida State takes the field, we expect to be dominant.

We expect the national championship discussion to always run through Tallahassee.

That’s how it was when I was watching us play on a portable TV in the parking lot of Palmetto Little League as a kid.

And that’s how I expect it to be once again.

Do Something!”

Taggart by his own expectations is on some other shyt, but we have fans that are acting like dude is secretly killing it and it’s just a matter of time before shyt starts “working.” If I’ve learned anything in life thus far it’s rarely does shyt just “start working.” I could get deeper with that, but imma chill.

 

[Champ_KW]

Man, I don’t know. I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about this shyt and I just don’t know. I don’t know how anyone at this point can be 100% CERTAIN Taggart is the guy. Honestly, based on things I’ve heard and what I’ve seen then thus far, I’m more inclined to say he’s not the guy. I’ve racked my brain trying to think of a successful college coach that has Taggart’s demeanor. The NFL is a different animal. Even a guy like Richt is more demonstrative than Taggart. I think maybe Bill Snyder? That’s the closest I can think of, and that’s one guy. There’s something to be said about evaluating the luminaries of any industry and determining what personality traits they have in common. There’s untold numbers of books written on that kinda stuff, but genuinely and overwhelmingly most successful college football coaches do not have a personality anywhere near Taggart’s. If Willie is successful, he’s going to be an extreme outlier.

Beyond the sloppy play, beyond the penalties, beyond the emotional stuff, etc. What irks me the most is that our guys get beat by a WR. They make a mistake, etc. And they come to the sideline and no one says anything to them. No one is coaching them up. I noticed it last year, really. It’s basically like dudes are coaching themselves on some Longest Yard shyt.

We also are going to lose a lot of talent this offseason, so I’m not sure how we’re supposed lose three of the top five players on the team (anyway you rank them) and be better next year. Regardless, either this year or next he’s going to have to be able to win with less than ideal FSU talent, which is still a considerable amount of talent.

This is what Taggart wrote last year before the season started about his expectations:


“My vision for this program isn’t complicated. The standard has already been set by those before me. When Florida State is where it’s supposed to be, everyone knows what to expect.

We expect to be ranked in the Top 5. We expect to win the ACC. And we expect to win every game.

Every single year.

What I want to make clear is that we aren’t running from those expectations. We’re embracing them. Every time Florida State takes the field, we expect to be dominant.

We expect the national championship discussion to always run through Tallahassee.

That’s how it was when I was watching us play on a portable TV in the parking lot of Palmetto Little League as a kid.

And that’s how I expect it to be once again.

Do Something!”

Taggart by his own expectations is on some other shyt, but we have fans that are acting like dude is secretly killing it and it’s just a matter of time before shyt starts “working.” If I’ve learned anything in life thus far it’s rarely does shyt just “start working.” I could get deeper with that, but imma chill.

18 games in......

Buddy don't even get a chance to get his own QB in before pessimist start with the "I don't think he's it" narrative. It's almost like y'all willingly ignore the hand he was dealt. DEAD LAST in APR. That means the worst in the country for a Power 5 program. You watched Francois get murdered all the way back in '15 with that porous O Line and the coach then had 3 recruiting cycles to fix it and didn't. You sat and watched a WR coach get paid for damn near a decade and had only TWO wr's drafted and you wonder why all the freaks are at Clemson. You sat by and watched Tamorrion Terry, who's your best WR, get redshirted while the last coach had the likes of Justin Motlow, Jared Jackson, and Bryan fukkING LaCivita getting reps! That's the type of shyt that's "not working". But none of yall spoke up. Sorry to break it to you, but FSU wasn't a turn key situation. It was a mess. AD left and the interim comes in and finds out the books are in shambles and now his main goal is to balance them......while everyone else around you reupping in the middle of an arms race. If you're gonna be a fan of a program, then act like it. Stop acting like FSU is just about Willie. Why wouldn't a man we've seen turn TWO programs around that were in worst shape than FSU not "be the right guy"? And it is a matter of time before it starts working. Stop listening to these bogus talking heads and impatient social media whiners. Its a building full of kids inside the Moore Center that believe. And there's 21 more in high school that believe.....and as of right now ZERO decommits. Can Bama say that this cycle? OSU? UF? LSU? UGA? It is working. You just whine too much. Again....18 games in. Y'all pitiful. Tell me who you would want instead then?

And what's up with this weird narrative about his demeanor? I saw the same thing said about Tony Dungey in the league. I wonder why? I guarantee you can comb thru the message boards and won't find a single person that says that goofball demeanor that PJ Fleck has is the "wrong demeanor". You clowns and your coded narratives are sickening. We've seen the old lovable grandpa bear type be successful. We've seen the in your face type be successful. We've seen the CEO coach who never was a coordinator be successful. We've seen the ultimate player coach like Carroll be successful. But the ONLY type of coach that you clowns DON'T think will be successful is the black calm demeanor one. Clown shyt.

Edit:

Make that only 1 decommit

 

[goatnole]

Last i checked we were elite with trickett and jimbo.

won a national title too.


With taggart and his quiet self we are a mid major team

You make it seem like Jimbo went on Saban type run, you must've checked out in 2014. Cause Jimbo and Trickett weren't elite in 15,16,17 and the current roster of OL is proving that right now.

 

[klutch2381]

18 games in......

Buddy don't even get a chance to get his own QB in before pessimist start with the "I don't think he's it" narrative. It's almost like y'all willingly ignore the hand he was dealt. DEAD LAST in APR. That means the worst in the country for a Power 5 program. You watched Francois get murdered all the way back in '15 with that porous O Line and the coach then had 3 recruiting cycles to fix it and didn't. You sat and watched a WR coach get paid for damn near a decade and had only TWO wr's drafted and you wonder why all the freaks are at Clemson. You sat by and watched Tamorrion Terry, who's your best WR, get redshirted while the last coach had the likes of Justin Motlow, Jared Jackson, and Bryan fukkING LaCivita getting reps! That's the type of shyt that's "not working". But none of yall spoke up. Sorry to break it to you, but FSU wasn't a turn key situation. It was a mess. AD left and the interim comes in and finds out the books are in shambles and now his main goal is to balance them......while everyone else around you reupping in the middle of an arms race. If you're gonna be a fan of a program, then act like it. Stop acting like FSU is just about Willie. Why wouldn't a man we've seen turn TWO programs around that were in worst shape than FSU not "be the right guy"? And it is a matter of time before it starts working. Stop listening to these bogus talking heads and impatient social media whiners. Its a building full of kids inside the Moore Center that believe. And there's 21 more in high school that believe.....and as of right now ZERO decommits. Can Bama say that this cycle? OSU? UF? LSU? UGA? It is working. You just whine too much. Again....18 games in. Y'all pitiful. Tell me who you would want instead then?

And what's up with this weird narrative about his demeanor? I saw the same thing said about Tony Dungey in the league. I wonder why? I guarantee you can comb thru the message boards and won't find a single person that says that goofball demeanor that PJ Fleck has is the "wrong demeanor". You clowns and your coded narratives are sickening. We've seen the old lovable grandpa bear type be successful. We've seen the in your face type be successful. We've seen the CEO coach who never was a coordinator be successful. We've seen the ultimate player coach like Carroll be successful. But the ONLY type of coach that you clowns DON'T think will be successful is the black calm demeanor one. Clown shyt.

Edit:

Make that only 1 decommit

Man, you’re a legit a dikkhead. I be trying to let your goofy ass live, but you’re just dumb ass fukk. There’s a couple of you cats that be jumping out the window on some fukk shyt and you’re one of them. You can’t even sensibly reply to shyt without some pollyanna perspective or straw man argument. You think that me off all fukking people am anti-Taggart because he’s black? That’s what your goofy ass thinks? Do you know what I went to school for? Do you know what I’m going to grad school for and going to get my PhD in? You know what I’m doing with my life? If I told you, you’d realize how fukking dumb you sound. I’m black on both sides — fukk boy. If I’m anti anything. I’m anti losing. You also have no real connection to the program. I can tell that. I don’t tell everything I know on here or the conversations I’ve had with people who are really connected to the day and day out happenings of the team, and they aren’t even absolutely certain at this point Taggart’s the guy. How could you POSSIBLY be 100% certain this is the guy when when the people that interact with him on the regular can’t call it? Oh, I guess everybody just a super c00n besides your goof troop ass, right?

Boi, if you don’t take your ass on mjlol:. At some point Taggart is legit responsible for some of this shyt. Taggart hired Barnett. Taggart hired a dude that’s idea of coaching was holding up an IPAD and saying do it like this. Taggart went into the season with 11 offensive plays last year. Taggart had dudes running plays in the game they’d never practiced before and so on. However, somehow none of this shyt is his fault. You have a complete inability to separate the man from the product on the field.

fukk outta here, dude. Don’t quote me again either. You fukking dolt.