Some Liberals do this thing after shootings that is so hypocritical.

[Type Username Here]

Here it is for the ignorant:

District of Columbia v. Heller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes in federal enclaves, such as self-defense within the home. The decision did not address the question of whether the Second Amendment extends beyond federal enclaves to the states,[1] which was addressed later by McDonald v. Chicago (2010). It was the first Supreme Court case in United States history to decide whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms.

McDonald v. Chicago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Therefore, writing after the ratification of the Constitution, but before the election of the first Congress, James Monroe included "the right to keep and bear arms" in a list of basic "human rights", which he proposed to be added to the Constitution.

Patrick Henry, in the Virginia ratification convention June 5, 1788, eloquently argued for the dual rights to arms and resistance to oppression:

Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.[78][79]

While both Monroe and Adams supported ratification of the Constitution, its most influential framer was James Madison. In Federalist No. 46, he confidently contrasted the federal government of the United States to the European kingdoms, which he contemptuously described as "afraid to trust the people with arms." He assured his fellow citizens that they need never fear their government because of "the advantage of being armed...."

United States v. Emerson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do we need to go into the personal writings of the Founding Fathers? Or is this good enough?

 

[Type Username Here]

Why is it important?


Also I rewrote my first post.



I love going camping and hike a few mountains a year.
I've never thought to myself hey buddy why don't you bring your rifle that can hit targets at 800 meters away.


Equating the Patriot Act with gun control is pretty absurd as well.

I don't usually take my rifle, but a longbow instead. It's much harder. I'm already comfortable with using a rifle and handgun.

As for your last sentence, how so? Both involve limiting and violating your rights for "Safety".

 

[88m3]

As for your last sentence, how so? Both involve limiting and violating your rights for "Safety".

The Patriot Act has broad language that can in essence do anything. There also seems to be little to no oversight or transparency. I also personally don't equate the Patriot Act with "safety" it's more offense than defense.

Gun control in theory can have boundaries. It could prevent thousands of deaths. Most gun deaths could be prevented with stricter gun laws this isn't rocket science. Countries, societies, laws change over time it's called progress.

 

[Type Username Here]

The Patriot Act has broad language that can in essence do anything. There also seems to be little to no oversight or transparency. I also personally don't equate the Patriot Act with "safety" it's more offense than defense.

Gun control in theory can have boundaries. It could prevent thousands of deaths. Most gun deaths could be prevented with stricter gun laws this isn't rocket science. Countries, societies, laws change over time it's called progress.

But Chicago has the strictest gun laws in America...why isn't the gun deaths going down? Why is it the highest in America?

 

[daze23]

camping with TUH:

"ok, the last marshmallow is yours breh"

 

[Type Username Here]

camping with TUH:

"ok, the last marshmallow is yours breh"

Nah breh, I'm a peaceful man. If I go on for the rest of my life without ever having to harm another human being again, I'd die a happy man. I'm anti-aggression, but I'm pro-self defense.

Being a pacifist is great until you run into someone who isn't one.

 

[88m3]

But Chicago has the strictest gun laws in America...why isn't the gun deaths going down? Why is it the highest in America?

Illegal small arms proliferation.

But you already know the answer to that.

 

[Type Username Here]

Illegal small arms proliferation.

But you already know the answer to that.

So you're saying that stricter gun laws didn't keep guns out of criminal hands and didn't lead to a decrease in gun violence?

Well, I'm shocked.

 

[88m3]

So you're saying that stricter gun laws didn't keep guns out of criminal hands and didn't lead to a decrease in gun violence?

Well, I'm shocked.

You're so right tuh the guns were obviously all legally bought in the Chicago Metro Area.


Going for the smart dumb nikka of the month award or what?

 

[Type Username Here]

You're so right tuh the guns were obviously all legally bought in the Chicago Metro Area.


Going for the smart dumb nikka of the month award or what?

I'm making my points with facts and simple logic.


Prohibiting guns is like prohibiting drugs.

See how well the War on Drugs is doing from stopping people from growing, importing and using illegal substances.

 

[88m3]

I'm making my points with facts and simple logic.


Prohibiting guns is like prohibiting drugs.

See how well the War on Drugs is doing from stopping people from growing, importing and using illegal substances.

Well your facts and logic are easily refuted whether you want to accept it or not. So where does that leave you?

They're nothing alike I'm sorry.

I can't make a HK Mark 23 in my bedroom last I checked.

 

[Type Username Here]

Well your facts and logic are easily refuted whether you want to accept it or not. So where does that leave you?

They're nothing alike I'm sorry.

I can't make a HK Mark 23 in my bedroom last I checked.

Can you make cocaine in there?

 

[daze23]

 

[88m3]

Can you make cocaine in there?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY-EH_lJpQA"]Rock the Cocaine - Husalah, The Jacka, & Marvaless - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Type Username Here]

Rock the Cocaine - Husalah, The Jacka, & Marvaless - YouTube