So you wanna know more about Leangains? Thats good man, that's reaaaaal goooddd....

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mb is indeed a ginormous condescending prick of the grandest magnitude. that being said, most of the "fitness gurus" who operate in the same capacity tend to be pricks, too. i can't say i wouldn't react the same though :manny:. not many of us would tolerate being asked the same redundant assinine questions over and over again by people who are motivated enough to type but too lazy to read in full :yeshrug:.

this shyt is comedy nonetheless.
 

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i mean mms is a very smart dude, but most of us are capable of gaining his knowledge and understanding of how nutrition and fitness really work if we devoted the time and effort. most people are inherently too lazy and unmotivated so i can't fault mb and the others for capitalizing on that.
 

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I mean its whatever berkhans gotta do what he gotta do

Thanks tho :pachaha:

tired of waiting for this motherfukkers book, pos repping and fivestarring
 

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Clearly Martin fukked his sister.

You can pretty much kiss Leangains goodbye at this point. It's bad enough he lacked motivation to update his site due to others biting his methodology. Now his bread winner is out in the open. All because he pissed off a few people? The same people too lazy to uncover this "readily available" information and need their hand held?


Had a good run :manny:
 

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I bet martin's swedish sister is :ahh:

He'll still be alright. Brad Pilon's methodology is out in the open in published PDF form and i reckon he's doing fine. Truth is Intermittent Fasting is still pretty internet culty. People are still confused by the very idea of fasting. If I were Martin I think I would have been able at least have written a book on his fasting and training protocols by now, its not the most difficult thing.


IF is hard to sell as a large scale product though. Like Pilon says you cant really make money off fasting because there are no products to sell to people looking for a silver bullet for their bodies. I bet the marks daily apple guy will end up making more than berkhan ever does.
 

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I never said it was. But it is another example of the internet fitness guru hustle.

that being said the ship hasnt necessarily sailed for him with this.The mainstream doesn't even really know shyt about intermittent fasting yet at all from what ive seen. The question is who is going to be able to basically make it simple enough for the public @ large to understand and apply, and be charismatic about selling it. With his personality though...thatll probably be someone else
 

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i mean mms is a very smart dude, but most of us are capable of gaining his knowledge and understanding of how nutrition and fitness really work if we devoted the time and effort. most people are inherently too lazy and unmotivated so i can't fault mb and the others for capitalizing on that.


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So I just read these docs. :huhldup:

I doubt this is everything. One of the docs mentions a two day meal plan, yet it's absent.

You literally can find all that through his posting history.

I'll save you some time.

An example of how an IF recomp may be structured (random snippets from my IF guide, which is a work in progress):


Fasting period lasts 16 hrs. This means you initiate your first meal 16 hrs before eating the last meal on the night before (which is easily done by skipping breakfast and lunch). Thus, ideally all eating is done within an 8 +-1 hour timeframe. Most do well with 3 meals, but some may even prefer 2 or 4. In order to have a steady supply of amino acids in your blood during the fast, I suggest the last meal consists of whole foods and some slow digesting protein (cottage cheese for example).

non-WO days: only lean protein and veggies (max 100 g carbs). Stay in the 1200-1500 kcal range and include 60-90 min of low intensity cardio. Kcal intake on these days is set to approximately 50% maintenance for most males.

WO-days: have a moderate sized meal of 50-60/50-60 carb/pro (minimum fat) pre-WO (approx 450-550 kcal). PWO-meal is ideally a high carb, moderate protein and low fat refeed. Kcal target for this day should be around maintenance+25% with the absolute majority of kcals eaten PWO. General guidelines for this day is (at least) 1 g protein/bw and 2 g carbs/ bw, and then you may fill out with whatever macronutrient you want to a certain degree. Ideally, emphasis should be put on carbs while fat intake is kept low; these conditions are the most favourable in order to prevent fat storage and optimize glycogen storage.

For the recomp protocol to work effectively, you need to balance the surplus days with the deficit days. This means that an EOD workout routine is ideal for those wishing progressive lean gains accompanied by fat loss. 2-3x week WO routines delivers faster results for people with bodyfat loss as a main priority.

Day 1:

hours 00-16 (fasting, fat burning phase)

hours 16-24 (pre-wo meal breaks the fast. A heavy workout sends a growth stimulus. Overfeeding occurs. If macros are controlled, short term fat gain is avoided while providing adequate nutrition for growth to occur post-workout and during sleep).

hours 24-40 (fasting, PW meal still digesting)

hours 40-48 (eating window, high protein intake, deficit during this day sets the stage for lipolysis during hours 48-66, and so it goes on)

Basically, nutrients are provided in adequate amounts during the phase when the body is most likely to use them for selective anabolism of muscle tissue. A controlled refeed, where fat intake is kept low (thus preventing de novo lpiogenesis), prevents de novo lipogenesis and may allow fat burning to resume shortly.

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