So World War 3 is about to start and the coli not speaking on it ?

[Turenne]

I see what you're saying. It is strategic, but that strategy often involves directly benefiting corporations. Guatemala just looked really ugly because the CIA Director and his brother both owned capitol stock in UFC. That and that UFC asked them directly to intervene by any means possible, but that in and of itself is not damning. Any American-based corporation on the verge of being nationalized would ask the US government for assistance. But I agree that it is a continuation of the Monroe Doctrine.

I agree and see where you are coming from. Thing is we are talking about the motivations of individual people and unless you have the Dulles brothers saying in some transcript that they were lobbying the president for intervention because of UFC then its hard or nigh on impossible to substantiate this kind of stuff. Thats just the way it is, you don't believe in stuff you can't prove.

That's also why I find it hard to debate with people on the internet (not talking about you and econ here since you two know your stuff obviously) - the fukking obsession people have with talking points violently hurts my head. People going on endlessly in depth about things that they haven't even realised may not be that relevant or are only relevant in a superficial way.

 

[Economics]

If you or anyone else want some more specific recs just ask btw, on Vietnam, Iraq etc.

Drop all that shyt breh, that's why the thread was moved to HL. Drop knowledge, that's one of the main functions of the net and this forum, right? That's why I always try to pass stuff on/off here when I can recall the info or its relevant. You can only combat constant dogma or mis/disinformation with constant knowledge and facts. Drop that shyt breh!

 

[Serious]

Just google the 1954 Guatemala coup and the United Fruit Company.

Guatemala '54


http://forums.projectcovo.com/showpost.php?p=1139270531&postcount=9

 

[MBwithadream]

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



Im gonna go ahead and edit this post out....You dont really seem like someone who will take my words seriously, and maybe this type of thing just isn't for you.

Anybody that can willingly call a white woman "queen" and stay up to look at some gala for people that wouldn't even deny STEALING everything they own, mainly from the country you also call home, might not be interested in anything I have to say. I peeped your posting history, and I doubt we can agree on anything.


So in other words:

Have a nice day, and wait for the missiles to drop. Because O, Yes.....They're coming.

What white woman did I call queen? Oh, the old lady from Britian. I just put a thread on Locker Room to see if anybody would respond or look but they didn't. At time, that was all the news people were talking about anyway. IN any regard, not all white people are evil, as abolitionist John Brown was a guy that somewhat started the civil war.

 

[CurrencyChase]

Good post dude, you truly convinced me.

there is no reason to convince fools who refuse to open their eyes. it would just be a waste of my time.

 

[Gallo]

You're very informed Turenne. Good stuff.

 

[Turenne]

Drop all that shyt breh, that's why the thread was moved to HL. Drop knowledge, that's one of the main functions of the net and this forum, right? That's why I always try to pass stuff on/off here when I can recall the info or its relevant. You can only combat constant dogma or mis/disinformation with constant knowledge and facts. Drop that shyt breh!

Sorry about being late dude, I had to go back to my parent's place to go through my books...

Primer

U.S. Diplomacy Since 1990 - R.D. Schulzinger
George Kennan & The Dilemmas Of U.S. Foreign Policy - David Mayers
The Tragedy Of American Diplomacy - William Williams (old but REALLY important)
Plus that Micheal Hunt shyt.

Vietnam

The Vietnam Wars: 1945-90 - Marilyn Young (this is THE book on Vietnam)
A Companion To The Vietnam War - Marilyn Young & Robert Buzzanco

Iraq

Squandered Victory - Larry Diamond
Chain Of Command - Seymour Hersh

Misc/Cultural/Media

The Uncensored War: The Media & Vietnam - Daniel Hallin
All The Shah's Men - Stephen Kinzer
The CNN Effect - Piers Robinson
Rethinking Camelot - Chomsky
Inventing The 'American Way' - Wendy Wall
The Vietnam War & American Culture - Rowe & Berg
Culture, Crisis & America's War On Terror - Stuart Croft
Iraq & The Lessons Of Vietnam - Lloyd Gardiner & Marilyn Young
Frustrated Empire - David Ryan (my old tutor, his prose is pretty bad but interesting nonetheless)
War & Television - Bruce Cummings

Non-American Stuff

The Pursuit Of History - John Tosh
A Little History Of The World - E.H. Gombrich (old and ethnocentric but very well written)
The Anatomy Of Fascism - Robert Paxton
The Islamist - Ed Husain
Liberalism - John Gray (great book)
The Ideas That Conquered The World - M. Mandelbaum
Al-Qaeda - Jason Burke
One Soldier's War In Chechnya - Arkady Babchenko
A Savage War Of Peace - Alistair Horne

I'll see if I can find some of these on the internet, plus some PDFs when I have some spare time.

We should have a sticky of political articles/books etc that are free to view on the net.

 

[Gallo]

Sorry about being late dude, I had to go back to my parent's place to go through my books...

Primer

U.S. Diplomacy Since 1990 - R.D. Schulzinger
George Kennan & The Dilemmas Of U.S. Foreign Policy - David Mayers
The Tragedy Of American Diplomacy - William Williams (old but REALLY important)
Plus that Micheal Hunt shyt.

Vietnam

The Vietnam Wars: 1945-90 - Marilyn Young (this is THE book on Vietnam)
A Companion To The Vietnam War - Marilyn Young & Robert Buzzanco

Iraq

Squandered Victory - Larry Diamond
Chain Of Command - Seymour Hersh

Misc/Cultural/Media

The Uncensored War: The Media & Vietnam - Daniel Hallin
All The Shah's Men - Stephen Kinzer
The CNN Effect - Piers Robinson
Rethinking Camelot - Chomsky
Inventing The 'American Way' - Wendy Wall
The Vietnam War & American Culture - Rowe & Berg
Culture, Crisis & America's War On Terror - Stuart Croft
Iraq & The Lessons Of Vietnam - Lloyd Gardiner & Marilyn Young
Frustrated Empire - David Ryan (my old tutor, his prose is pretty bad but interesting nonetheless)
War & Television - Bruce Cummings

Non-American Stuff

The Pursuit Of History - John Tosh
A Little History Of The World - E.H. Gombrich (old and ethnocentric but very well written)
The Anatomy Of Fascism - Robert Paxton
The Islamist - Ed Husain
Liberalism - John Gray (great book)
The Ideas That Conquered The World - M. Mandelbaum
Al-Qaeda - Jason Burke
One Soldier's War In Chechnya - Arkady Babchenko
A Savage War Of Peace - Alistair Horne

I'll see if I can find some of these on the internet, plus some PDFs when I have some spare time.

We should have a sticky of political articles/books etc that are free to view on the net.

That's nice but one should start with a base understanding of international relations.

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/sipa/S6800/courseworks/foreign_pol_walt.pdf

That article provides a good base/framework that will make it much easier to digest the material posted by Turenne.

 

[BAMBINO]

WW3 will not happen, every country is too fukked economically to even care to fight.


Sent from a nicca's iPhone using that Tapatalk.

Starting a war gets the economy going.

 

[BAMBINO]

Give me a fukking break, politicians do not make decisions in the realm of international relations to benefit a handful of companies or businessman.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

There is not going to be a World War 3. Just theater on smaller stages that the big boys have an economic or financial stake in.

World War 3 would last an hour...there would be a few bright flashes of light the likes of which the world has never seen. And then a 10,000 year naptime with the most beautiful silence never heard. The end.

 

[Darth Nubian]

When ww3 starts you won't know it. The only way to beat the US and Russia is to drop dem thangs from the get. Therefore when ww3 does happen you will be vaporized at the jump. Have a nice day!

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

nevermind.

 

[newworldafro]

"WW3 Russia China Iran Send 90000 Troops to Syria 12 Warships "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nWZz94SMwBU

 

[Mr. Somebody]

There is not going to be a World War 3. Just theater on smaller stages that the big boys have an economic or financial stake in.

World War 3 would last an hour...there would be a few bright flashes of light the likes of which the world has never seen. And then a 10,000 year naptime with the most beautiful silence never heard. The end.

This is why the meek shall inherit the earth.