So When Do Humans Gain Conciousness?

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The way I look at it is like this. Consciousness is to know and be aware. Meaning to come out of darkness and into the light. The unknown to the known. It doesn't necessarily only mean to be of a certain maturity. You can't be born or bring something into existence without some kind of intelligence or knowledge(0+0=0). The form of humans as in arm leg leg arm head has been conscious the second he/she were brought into the world. Every time a baby wants something, it'll cry.

If you're familiar with the killarmy song, there's 5 stages of consciousness.

Consciousness
Subconscious
Super Conscious
Magnetic Conscious
Infinite Conscious

Conscious and Super Conscious are similar in that consciousness is simply to be aware or awake(like when you wake up from sleep). The third, super conscious is the same thing on another level. It's the ability to see things clearly for what they are and not what they appear to be.

The consciousness would be you acknowledge that ___ is your friend
The super consciousness would be to know why ___ is your friend

The consciousness would be knowing that black people are free
The super consciousness would be understanding that black people are NOT free

So everybody on the planet in someway are conscious unless they are brain dead. They see what's going on but at the same time they don't.

Hell, sperm has consciousness.

That's how I see it anyway.
 
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Consciousness is everywhere.

It takes energy to create it and it cannot be destroyed.

It is everywhere but you can't touch taste see it hear it.

It knows everything that we know because all humans have it.

It's self discoveries and knowledge advances as we do because it lives thru us.

It is what we call god.
 

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Let's not get stuck on semantics and pretend like we don't know what he's asking. Other animals have brains and basic instinct, limited emotional responses (only a few do) and limited complex thoughts (only a few do).

Humans on the other hand, examine and explore the reasons behind the existence of life on Earth. We manipulate and even experiment on other animals to develop a deep understanding of organisms. That's a huge difference between another animals signalling about some food n sh1t .

There are a million scientific explanations... none explain why we evolved this level of consciousness..


I'm not a scientist.. but in Islam we know that most of what we perceive through our eyes and mind is a physical illusion and a way to rationalize our world. The duality of the mind and body is proven in the fact that even if chimps, apes, dolpins, or whatever organism- has large sensory areas of the brain they still will not have our 'awareness'. Also, it's proven in the fact that we go beyond survival instinct to do things irrelevant and sometimes counterproductive to the survival of our species. We appreciate beauty, humor, irony, and death. We aren't in direct harmony with nature, so it seems that our minds and consciousness aren't solely due to natural evolution. Well, it may be due to natural evolution, but so far no physiological explanation exists.

We can give all these example of cats, and dogs, and fish n sh1t... but in reality our metacognition is unique to humans. Only with that understanding as a starting point, can we attempt to figure out why.
 

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:beli:The exact moment consciousness is gained cannot be empirically proven or dis-proven.


Lots of really smart people go out of their way to say otherwise though. :beli:
 

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Let's not get stuck on semantics and pretend like we don't know what he's asking. Other animals have brains and basic instinct, limited emotional responses (only a few do) and limited complex thoughts (only a few do).

Humans on the other hand, examine and explore the reasons behind the existence of life on Earth. We manipulate and even experiment on other animals to develop a deep understanding of organisms. That's a huge difference between another animals signalling about some food n sh1t .

There are a million scientific explanations... none explain why we evolved this level of consciousness..


I'm not a scientist.. but in Islam we know that most of what we perceive through our eyes and mind is a physical illusion and a way to rationalize our world. The duality of the mind and body is proven in the fact that even if chimps, apes, dolpins, or whatever organism- has large sensory areas of the brain they still will not have our 'awareness'. Also, it's proven in the fact that we go beyond survival instinct to do things irrelevant and sometimes counterproductive to the survival of our species. We appreciate beauty, humor, irony, and death. We aren't in direct harmony with nature, so it seems that our minds and consciousness aren't solely due to natural evolution. Well, it may be due to natural evolution, but so far no physiological explanation exists.

We can give all these example of cats, and dogs, and fish n sh1t... but in reality our metacognition is unique to humans. Only with that understanding as a starting point, can we attempt to figure out why.
There is no "why" dude. We evolved a complex and large brain. The complexity of it allows for such a high level of consciousness. The why is irrelevant and we already have the evolutionary framework to explain it.
 
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