So what's the consensus on RAW Underground?

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We HAVE to have a Jarrett appearance in the Double J MMA gimmick :russ:
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There are the contours...vague contours of a good idea here. Ray Rowe looked pretty decent in his segment, and the Hurt Business had some nice beat downs as well (LOVED Shelton's double leg on Dio Maddin). And I'm always a sucker for the underground fight club concept, so I'll always at least take a look at something like this.

But the execution was just fukking garbage in almost every respect. Overproduced, fake looking "shoot fighting," the softest worked ground and pound you'll ever see, a low energy Shane McMahon who's still working through his mid-life crisis as the announcer, horrible "dancers" shrouded in a completely different color scheme from the rest of the building for no good reason, the MOTHERfukkING CAMERA CUTS AND SHAKES DURING EVERYTHING...Holy shyt, could they have done a worse job producing this? Does Dunn not realize that you're supposed to see the action in a combat sport broadcast (or a reasonable facsimile)? How do you forget rule one of your own core competency? :mindblown:

And then you get to the angle, my goodness. In theory, I have no problem with MVP and co. in this spot. But they pulled a hostile takeover of something that was literally just established an hour before. How was this supposed to have lasting impact and not just look like a shytty angle? If they'd taken 3 months to establish RAW Underground as a thing, THEN had Hurt Business do this, that might mean something. As it is, they blew through those angles in an hour, and not even for something good.

On the bright side...umm....something involving significant heel MVP mic time can't be 100% bad? :manny:
 

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They just got started with it. Lets let them cook and see what they come up with. Does need a bit of work but its something fresh and can possibly create new stars and feuds. This is good for the hurt business cuz it fits their personas and characters and can even lead to more excitement having them there. Nobody excited to see Dolph anyways and the NXT guys get some exposure on there that helps them further.
 

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They just got started with it. Lets let them cook and see what they come up with. Does need a bit of work but its something fresh and can possibly create new stars and feuds. This is good for the hurt business cuz it fits their personas and characters and can even lead to more excitement having them there. Nobody excited to see Dolph anyways and the NXT guys get some exposure on there that helps them further.


They get the same amount of time to cook we gave WCW, TNA and etc to cook and not a single second more:lolbron:
 

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There are the contours...vague contours of a good idea here. Ray Rowe looked pretty decent in his segment, and the Hurt Business had some nice beat downs as well (LOVED Shelton's double leg on Dio Maddin). And I'm always a sucker for the underground fight club concept, so I'll always at least take a look at something like this.

But the execution was just fukking garbage in almost every respect. Overproduced, fake looking "shoot fighting," the softest worked ground and pound you'll ever see, a low energy Shane McMahon who's still working through his mid-life crisis as the announcer, horrible "dancers" shrouded in a completely different color scheme from the rest of the building for no good reason, the MOTHERfukkING CAMERA CUTS AND SHAKES DURING EVERYTHING...Holy shyt, could they have done a worse job producing this? Does Dunn not realize that you're supposed to see the action in a combat sport broadcast (or a reasonable facsimile)? How do you forget rule one of your own core competency? :mindblown:

And then you get to the angle, my goodness. In theory, I have no problem with MVP and co. in this spot. But they pulled a hostile takeover of something that was literally just established an hour before. How was this supposed to have lasting impact and not just look like a shytty angle? If they'd taken 3 months to establish RAW Underground as a thing, THEN had Hurt Business do this, that might mean something. As it is, they blew through those angles in an hour, and not even for something good.

On the bright side...umm....something involving significant heel MVP mic time can't be 100% bad? :manny:

Glad someone else is on the same page with me in regards to how badly produced this was. Watch this angle either get scrapped completely within 3 months without any notice or this used as the vehicle for Brock to come back and squash everyone.
 

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It pisses off the people who spend 3 hours of their time watching something they don't like anyway, so massive success :manny:
 

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It pisses off the people who spend 3 hours of their time watching something they don't like anyway, so massive success :manny:





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