so @ what point in the black community do we draw the line?

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How do you buy this land without "funding people who hate us"?

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Dont make excuses now, nikkas break their necks to fill up Arab
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And asian
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And cracker
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Store owners pockets to buy nikka trinkets so we shouldn't have an issue cutting them another check to actually buy something that generates income in countless ways. They have plenty of land auctions for people who are behind on taxes. Just open a news paper or Google it isn't hard man.
 

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Dont make excuses now, nikkas break their necks to fill up Arab
:ehh:
And asian
:mindblown:
And cracker
:win:

Store owners pockets to buy nikka trinkets so we shouldn't have an issue cutting them another check to actually buy something that generates income in countless ways. They have plenty of land auctions for people who are behind on taxes. Just open a news paper or Google it isn't hard man.

I'm not making excuses, just pointing out that you can't exist in America without shelling out money to people who hate you.
 

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I'm not making excuses, just pointing out that you can't exist in America without shelling out money to people who hate you.

Again, black folks in this kkkountry spend a trillion dollars ANNUALLY on bullshyt nikka trinkets that does not generate income or circulate in our own communities. We have all the money when it comes to trickin off at the club, buying closet fulls of J's, buying foreign clothes & leasing expensive cars. we are financially illiterate and its killing us legally every day. This is our own fault. We had more economic control during segregation and black wall street than we do now.

All I'm saying is use that money and spend it with ourselves. Only spend it with crackers if it's going to benefit you in the long term (like buying acres of farm land for example)...
 

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Caricatures and stereotypes predate the so called Hip Hop culture. and so called Hip Hop culture is not needed to push negative stereotypes.
what exactly is your point with this post? Modern-day hiphop is currently the most effective tool being used today for white supremacist to push negative stereotypes of the black image. Alot of tools of oppression existed before hiphop, does that mean we shouldn't acknowledge new ways that they come up with to oppress us and demonize our image?
 

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what exactly is your point with this post? Modern-day hiphop is currently the most effective tool being used today for white supremacist to push negative stereotypes of the black image. Alot of tools of oppression existed before hiphop, does that mean we shouldn't acknowledge new ways that they come up with to oppress us and demonize our image?

My point is that they do not need hip hop to push negative black stereotypes, before hip hop there were blaxploitation films. And that's not to say that you shouldn't acknowledge the new ways they push the 'evil demonic savage black man' image but let's not sit here and pretend that it started with hip hop or hip hop is the only medium they use.
 

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My point is that they do not need hip hop to push negative black stereotypes, before hip hop there were blaxploitation films. And that's not to say that you shouldn't acknowledge the new ways they push the 'evil demonic savage black man' image but let's not sit here and pretend that it started with hip hop or hip hop is the only medium they use.
If anyone is saying that they need to study history:

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/iden...s-brutes-c00ns-toms-and-sapphires-etc.221290/

But again, RIGHT NOW IN PRESENT DAY 2015, hiphop is the biggest vehicle being used to push these negative stereotypes.
 

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But again, RIGHT NOW IN PRESENT DAY 2015, hiphop is the biggest vehicle being used to push these negative stereotypes.

Okay so let's say that you get rid of hip hop and the so called 'hip hop culture', then what? Are you just going to wag your finger at the next thing they use to push a negative black image? And are you going to do the same thing after they get rid of that and move on to the next thing? Trying to stop the things they currently use to push negative stereotypes does little to actually solve the problem.
 

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Okay so let's say that you get rid of hip hop and the so called 'hip hop culture', then what? Are you just going to wag your finger at the next thing they use to push a negative black image? And are you going to do the same thing after they get rid of that and move on to the next thing? Trying to stop the things they currently use to push negative stereotypes does little to actually solve the problem.
what "problem" are you referring to?
 

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what "problem" are you referring to?
so attempting to stop something will have little affect on stopping it. gotcha. Or are you saying that they will continue to do it anyway? Of course they will, but not with US being the one's doing it to ourselves. Modern-day hiphop has become blacks degrading ourselves and glorifying & promoting our own genocide. We are promoting crime and ignorance being the keys to success TO OURSELVES. We are promoting that other black people are the main threats/enemies. We are promoting drug use to ourselves. We are promoting extreme materialism to ourselves. We are keeping OURSELVES in a stagnant and ignorant mindstate. The white man doesn't have to brainwash us anymore:

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We're brainwashing ourselves
 

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so attempting to stop something will have little affect on stopping it.

but you're not stopping it by taking down hip hop, you're only taking down just ONE of the things they use to push the negative image.

Or are you saying that they will continue to do it anyway?

Yes, and waging the finger at hip hop doesnt actually solve the problem.

Of course they will, but not with US being the one's doing it to ourselves. Modern-day hiphop has become blacks degrading ourselves and glorifying & promoting our own genocide. We are promoting crime and ignorance being the keys to success TO OURSELVES. We are promoting that other black people are the main threats/enemies. We are promoting drug use to ourselves. We are promoting extreme materialism to ourselves. We are keeping OURSELVES in a stagnant and ignorant mindstate

And again, this isn't exclusive to hip hop, nor is it new(again, I point to blaxploitation films), also some of your complaints are a bit dated and the 'We are promoting extreme materialism to ourselves' idea is a bit silly.

We're brainwashing ourselves

Maybe...
 

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but you're not stopping it by taking down hip hop, you're only taking down just ONE of the things they use to push the negative image.



Yes, and waging the finger at hip hop doesnt actually solve the problem.



And again, this isn't exclusive to hip hop, nor is it new(again, I point to blaxploitation films), also some of your complaints are a bit dated and the 'We are promoting extreme materialism to ourselves' idea is a bit silly.



Maybe...
black consciousness is rising, and with this rise of black consciousness, black people will begin to gain a new respect for themselves and will no longer want to hear music that degrades them. We will no longer want to hear music glorifying and promoting our own genocide. This has happened to me personally and is happening on a mass scale currently. Thats why acts like Lamar and Cole are the one's selling while the trap/drill rappers promoting negativity and criminal behavior aren't selling shyt. The tide is turning. You may not like this but its happening. The black community needs a new mindset to combat white supremacy. With our current mindset as a people there's no way we can progress. Ignorance is on its way out while intelligence is making its way in:blessed:
 
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