PoorAndDangerous
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Hopefully not movie was trash
So we never getting a Justice League sequel?
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Norrin Radd
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Hell nahso that teaser at the end of justie league when luthor forms the injustice league isn't happening now?
David_TheMan
Banned
As a DC fan my whole life, you don't understand how sick to my stomach it is seeing Marvel bring the building down with their films.
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PlayerNinety_Nine
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The suits need to decide whether they completely shred the universe down to it's last atom and rebuild it, or salvage the parts that work like Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Shazam, and then double back for a new Batman and Superman (and probably add a Green Lantern Corps). I'd rather see them do the latter. No point in rebooting something that works.
For the sake of making a fresh start, I think Cavill will go eventually too. To me - He's in that weird limbo that Affleck was in after the initial rumor/denial he was finished as Batman.
Hopefully they chose the new Batman with an eye on making multiple movies in the future.
There will eventually be another JL movie, but I don't think it would be for a while.
DC would do well to find a less well known hero team to feature too IMO. I think people tend to forget that Avengers came about because they were the biggest characters Marvel had to hand, given that Fox and Sony had a bunch of the rights.
It's easier to make an Ironman movie than a Batman one, because the general public had no idea of who Tony Stark was in '08, so the studio could create the character in their own image. The difficulty with a Batman/Superman level character is that they're so entrenched in pop culture thateverybody has their own idea of what they are, so if the film doesn't match up to it, then there's backlash.
For the sake of making a fresh start, I think Cavill will go eventually too. To me - He's in that weird limbo that Affleck was in after the initial rumor/denial he was finished as Batman.
Hopefully they chose the new Batman with an eye on making multiple movies in the future.
There will eventually be another JL movie, but I don't think it would be for a while.
DC would do well to find a less well known hero team to feature too IMO. I think people tend to forget that Avengers came about because they were the biggest characters Marvel had to hand, given that Fox and Sony had a bunch of the rights.
It's easier to make an Ironman movie than a Batman one, because the general public had no idea of who Tony Stark was in '08, so the studio could create the character in their own image. The difficulty with a Batman/Superman level character is that they're so entrenched in pop culture thateverybody has their own idea of what they are, so if the film doesn't match up to it, then there's backlash.
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Same can be said about X-Men. What Marvel and Feige did with the Avengers is some unprecedented shyt. They took a bunch of B-D list characters and turned them into icons over a 10 year period. That's visionary shyt and not something that's easily duplicated. Yeah, the blueprint has been laid, but the 2nd nikka to paint the Mona Lisa ain't gonna get the same type of recognition.
That's cool, but let's be real. Synder's vision for the DC Universe was passionately rejected by the general audience. So much so that the reception to Batman V Superman has tainted the reception to every movie they've released since. It makes no business sense whatsoever to release Synder's original cut when the vast majority of people don't want to see it and the company is trying to rebuild the brand's image with hardcore fans.
Superman is probably the most difficult superhero to pull off in media. Or at least, he is perceived as such because even though most people don't know his lore beyond the basics, everyone has a set idea of what he is supposed to be and it's often weirdly negative.
To that end, I think Cavill is out just because he's not going to sit around waiting while they figured out a new vision for Superman. Man has a career to consider, and on the company's side, his casting has yet to actually pay off. Maybe his agent can work some miracle and they can fast track a new Superman movie. But as is, I think it's best to start looking for a new vision for the character.
As for featuring a lesser known team, I think they're already doing that. They've got Suicide Squad up and running, and Birds of Prey is due next February. They're really starting to dig into the DC archives and figure out what they can do. I think the next Justice League movie is going to have a much heavier focus on Aquaman and Wonder Woman.
The problem with Marvel and DC is that because they essentially sell the exact same product with a different coat of paint, comparisons are unavoidable. As such, the last thing WB needs to do with DC is try to copy the MCU. A lot of fans have the same mentality as executives in that they basically suggest DC does the same thing, and the problem is like you said: no one cares about the second person to paint the Mona Lisa.
What they're doing now - letting directors play with the characters without worrying too much about fitting them into some larger story - is paying off so far. Aquaman and Shazam are very different movies from one another and were both well received, and their upcoming stuff is looking to also set itself apart. The further they get their films from looking like what Marvel is doing, the better off they'll be.
so that teaser at the end of justie league when luthor forms the injustice league isn't happening now?
NOPE. And that's why I'm pissed because they fukked it up.
They do have a good thing going with the Solos. WW1984 with Cheetah will be fire. Aquaman 2 (Manta needs to go ham) will be fire too. Joker solo should be fine too. If anything, they need to go ahead and get the next Supes done.
Brandeezy
Superstar
There's no reason why Henry can't find the right team for Superman. Margot Robbie found a director, writer, produced & pitched Birds Of Prey herself because she loves Harley as a character. If Henry is that serious about Superman, he would be getting it done. Hell even Ezra Miller is writing his own Flash script with Grant Morrison.
Nigerianwonder
Superstar
Don't complain now.. Yall clowns were impatient and nitpicked the DC films apart and didnt let snyder cook. Could of had justice league 1 and 2, green latern, flash etc by now. Now you get nothing. might be 10 to 15 years before you see them attempt that again.
I wouldn't follow Ezra's example since he's actually holding up the Flash movie from starting production and is likely going to get him canned.
Otherwise, I agree that if Henry still wants the role, he should get out there and pitch some stuff to WB.
Brandeezy
Superstar
True, but at least he gave more of an effort than Henry. I feel like The Rock's wife is holding him back by being his manager, especially since Rock is always looking for the next role.
I think we need to have 2 different Batman's. because fans like me are craving a NOLAN TYPE BATMAN again. And that Batman doesn't work in the DCEU. Either we need two Batmans, or we need a RED HOOD like character that is not apart of the DC Universe. Kind of like they're doing with Joaquin's Joker.
I hope DC starts that dark label, that is not apart of the universe where adult DC characters can be explored.
I hope DC starts that dark label, that is not apart of the universe where adult DC characters can be explored.
Formerly Black Trash
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Don’t get me wrong, Justice League was awful and miscast on Flash and Cyborg
I just want to see it done right
Nigerianwonder
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I agree but the general consensus is that captain marvel was miscast and the movie was a dud but that didnt stop the marvel train. Let's not act like marvel dont got a lot of mediocre films but for some reason DC is supposed to be perfect and every film a masterpiece.
Synder had the whole thing planned out and would have dope to see it all play out the way he intended it. Aquaman and shazam would have played out the same way with the lighter tones to balance it out. Now they have no direction to go in for their biggest properties.
David_TheMan
Banned
Please cut the bullshyt with Snyder.
Snyder single handidly crippled the DCU from the start with his "vision"
Sorry like I said before, it makes no fukking sense that Marvel and Feige were able to make fukking better superman movies, with Capt. America than Superman was under Snyder.
Capt and Superman are damn near the same character and personalities, that is Superman's story being a kid from the farm who just wants to do good in the world. That is his arc, he is overly concerned and constantly holding himself back because he was raised by a stable family and represents heroic ideals of society, he is the measure of the ideal. Capt. America told that story for Steve, Reeves told that story with Donner, Snyder's dumb ass destroyed that story with his dumb ass "gritty" color palette and dumb ass story that had Ma and Pa Kent out of character, needlessly killed Pa Kent, made Clark Kent emo and the other bullshyt.
Then he presents the best cast and acted Batman since Keaton with Affleck, and blows it up by copying the worst representation of Batman in all comics or most polarizing DKR's version in a universe and age where the shyt doesn't fit.
Motherfukk Zack Snyder, till the day I die, for the bullshyt he pulled.
Just because Whedon's shyt was worse, doesn't make Snyder's shyt good.
Snyder single handidly crippled the DCU from the start with his "vision"
Sorry like I said before, it makes no fukking sense that Marvel and Feige were able to make fukking better superman movies, with Capt. America than Superman was under Snyder.
Capt and Superman are damn near the same character and personalities, that is Superman's story being a kid from the farm who just wants to do good in the world. That is his arc, he is overly concerned and constantly holding himself back because he was raised by a stable family and represents heroic ideals of society, he is the measure of the ideal. Capt. America told that story for Steve, Reeves told that story with Donner, Snyder's dumb ass destroyed that story with his dumb ass "gritty" color palette and dumb ass story that had Ma and Pa Kent out of character, needlessly killed Pa Kent, made Clark Kent emo and the other bullshyt.
Then he presents the best cast and acted Batman since Keaton with Affleck, and blows it up by copying the worst representation of Batman in all comics or most polarizing DKR's version in a universe and age where the shyt doesn't fit.
Motherfukk Zack Snyder, till the day I die, for the bullshyt he pulled.
Just because Whedon's shyt was worse, doesn't make Snyder's shyt good.