So we gonna act like UFOs aint zoomin in / out the atmosphere?

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I’m not gonna do the math, but if you extrapolate a ship going 60 miles in 3 seconds, how long would it take to get to/from the nearest galaxy?
Not sure. But realistically it may not matter. Unless they are in the very next neighboring galaxy. The universe is virtually if not actually infinite right? What if their galaxy is an infinite distance away? you could go fast as you want still take forever to arrive
 

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What do you think was the most spectacular statement that was made by someone who hasn't been paid by To The Stars? A billionaire who donated to Harry Reid and To The Star's publicity campaign is driving all of this. The rest is just bs.

A bizarre effort to find UFOs involved Harry Reid and the lead singer of Blink-182

The Pentagon’s UFOs: How a Multimedia Entertainment Company created a UFO news story

Five Reasons to Be Skeptical about that New York Times UFO Story

The Truth about Those "Alien Alloys" in The New York Times UFO Story

The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He?



Government has been holding UFO investigations for 70+ years. Media has been doing shytty-ass reporting on UFOs for just as long, because it's sensational and sells papers. But the actual evidence is trash videos. In THIS day and age with all our advanced equipment, we can't get anything better than blurry dots?




There is literally nothing in any video that shows an object defying the laws of gravity.




Yeah, when you break it down it doesn't make any sense. They don't want to think logically about it. If pressed they just say, "Maybe the UFO's wanted to be seen!"




The UFO didn't even do any of those things. All that happens is that the camera switches modes from tracking to not tracking, and the zoom changes by x2 at the same time so it looks like the object jumps when literally all that changes is the camera setting. This shyt is OBVIOUS when you watch it, the objects aren't moving anything like real objects,

The Skeptic’s Guide to the Pentagon’s UFO Videos
You didn't answer my question
 

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It’s not that simple. If you actually took the time to listen to the actual camera operators and flir technicians who have millions of dollars in training to operate these systems you would realize they are saying unidentified for a reason. Finding a random YouTuber to support your argument only serves to continue the stigma and prevent proper analysis of this unknown.
I don't know what "millions of dollars in training" means lol, but having one random operator get confused by an upgraded system in the heat of the moment doesn't hold weight over someone actually breaking down what the camera's own settings are saying on the screen. If you watch the videos he literally shows you how the on-screen camera data proves the object isn't moving the way the operator claims its moving. On the ship itself people had been claiming UFO sightings for days (almost certainly enemy spy drones) and the operator was primed to be jumpy.

The entire military/government doesn't devote hardly any fukking energy to this shyt. The government's most recent UFO program wasn't even funded until a random Nevada billionaire gave Harry Reid a big donation that allowed him to create a program that would give contracts and kickbacks to the billionaire's own company.

EDITORIAL: Harry Reid and the Pentagon’s UFO budget

If this shyt is so obvious, if experts all agree like you claim, then why are the only people seriously promoting it To The Stars's employees and random low-level military techs? Why is it that the government, military, and civilian science industries aren't doing jack shyt in effort to follow up on any of it?




And let me add analysis by an electro optical specialist who worked for Boeing and designed the flir system.



In the video you post he assumes that part that is rotating is a solid target and not glare. He misses the entire point that if the light is glare on the optic system, then rotating the optic system will rotate the orientation of the glare. Either he didn't think much about what was actually causing the shape of the glare or he's just fukking around to promote UFOs.






I can’t stand these bullshyt debunking videos you guys post. Some random YouTubers who never even heard of flir cameras two years ago trying to discredit actual technicians and specialists who designed these systems and say what was detected was 100% real ufo’s.
This is hilarious, cause people who promote this shyt will trust the explanation of any random person or youtube video, they'll put a fukking cop or spook or rock singer on TV (like we see in these videos) and pretend they're experts on advanced technology, they'll ignore literally everything that people with actual backgrounds in the subject tell them, then when they find one guy to confirm the assumptions they already had, they slobber all over that one "friendly expert" and claim that now for the first time expertise actually matters.
 
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You didn't answer my question
I asked you who you were referring to. Who is the most important figure pushing this shyt who isn't connected to To The Stars? What is the most important government program to study this shyt that wasn't created by the kickbacks Harry Reid provided for his billionaire friend or by To The Stars own publicity operation?

The Luis Elizondo character who To The Stars puts so much trust in (just a random investigator with zero background in physics/flight/engineering/etc., hmmm) constantly bytches that the government isn't taking this seriously and that's why he quit. Why don't you believe him on THAT claim? If the evidence is really so amazing and so many high-ups are really concerned like you claim, then why don't you believe Elizondo when he says that government doesn't actually take this seriously?

The man who y'all are treating at the literal head of this entire effort has degraded himself to working for the Blink-182 singer and doing goofy TV shows on cable channels. That instantly debunks any suggestion that this is a massive government effort to study and understand alien technology.
 
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the way folks imagination can run away with them is amazing

nature be giving the answers & humanity ignores it all

all that supernatural shyte is sci-fi ha

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I don't know what "millions of dollars in training" means lol, but having one random operator get confused by an upgraded system in the heat of the moment doesn't hold weight over someone actually breaking down what the camera's own settings are saying on the screen. If you watch the videos he literally shows you how the on-screen camera data proves the object isn't moving the way the operator claims its moving. On the ship itself people had been claiming UFO sightings for days (almost certainly enemy spy drones) and the operator was primed to be jumpy.

The entire military/government doesn't devote hardly any fukking energy to this shyt. I've worked in physics and interned for NASA and virtually no one there develops any energy to this shyt. The government's most recent UFO program wasn't even funded until a random Nevada billionaire gave Harry Reid a big donation that allowed him to create a program that would give contracts and kickbacks to the billionaire's own company.

EDITORIAL: Harry Reid and the Pentagon’s UFO budget

If this shyt is so obvious, if experts all agree like you claim, then why are the only people seriously promoting it To The Stars's employees and random low-level military techs? Why is it that the government, military, and civilian science industries aren't doing jack shyt in effort to follow up on any of it?






In the video you post he assumes that part that is rotating is a solid target and not glare. He misses the entire point that if the light is glare on the optic system, then rotating the optic system will rotate the orientation of the glare. Either he didn't think much about what was actually causing the shape of the glare or he's just fukking around to promote UFOs.







This is hilarious, cause people who promote this shyt will trust the explanation of any random person or youtube video, they'll put a fukking cop or spook or rock singer on TV (like we see in these videos) and pretend they're experts on advanced technology, they'll ignore literally everything that people with actual backgrounds in the subject tell them, then when they find one guy to confirm the assumptions they already had, they slobber all over that one "friendly expert" and claim that now for the first time expertise actually matters.

You really think you know how they're spending their money? Plus there are many shadows branches and agency's. The fact the Pentagon is releasing this report speaks volumes to the validity of the research being done. Many experts have claimed extensive research has been done and they cant find an explanation. But they know it's not a fukkin camera glare. People like yourself are too arrogant to accept the fact their is unfathomable shyt out there, the leap in technology over the decades suggests we're not even close to comprehending some shyt. But yet you want to reduce the word of various experts to a camera glare...cmon dude
 

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You really think you know how they're spending their money?
Well, Luis Elizondo, the guy who is pushing this entire new craze and who claims to have been the head of their whole program, says he quit because the government wasn't taking UFOs seriously.

So do you trust him or no? Cause if you don't trust him.....why believe anything he says?




Plus there are many shadows branches and agency's. The fact the Pentagon is releasing this report speaks volumes to the validity of the research being done. Many experts have claimed extensive research has been done and they cant find an explanation. But they know it's not a fukkin camera glare. People like yourself are too arrogant to accept the fact their is unfathomable shyt out there, the leap in technology over the decades suggests we're not even close to comprehending some shyt. But yet you want to reduce the word of various experts to a camera glare...cmon dude
Except they've already determined it's glare, dumbass. :mjlol: The question was whether the glare was rotating independently or whether it was rotating due to the rotation of the mechanism.

Again, if you're gonna bytch about experts and claim that all your proof lies in the strength of your experts, then you need to explain why the VAST majority of actual experts laugh when you bring up this shyt. And you need to explain why you prefer the word of a few experts over the word of the vast majority.

By the claims y'all are making, this would automatically be the #1 priority of every scientist, the #1 priority of every military, and the #1 priority of every government. But it's damn near irrelevant and needs the fukking Blink-182 frontman to run a multimillion dollar publicity claim to make anything happen. That directly contradicts all your silly bullshyt about supposed "experts" you don't even want to quote.
 

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@Rhakim how about you lay down your angle and why? I'm trying to remember if you're a Bible thumper?

You're going VERY hard in here to discount ufos. Something even the government who has a policy of nondisclosure are giving up on..

Exactly what are you invested in that the acknowledgement of alien beings threatens?
 

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My only concern is no way these aliens are peaceful if they decide a takeover. Look at our track record. No way you can look at us and think coming in peace is a good idea. That's literally science fiction.
 

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I believe in extra terrestrial life, I just dont believe that they have visited this planet.

These UFOs are human technology. Somebody has access to this shyt but they're not revealing their hand yet :hubie:
 

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Humans are so destructive one of these UFOs would've been shot out the sky and examined by now if they were alien
 
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