SO WE GONNA ACT LIKE CM PUNK AINT THE FAKEST MOST SELLOUT DUDE ON THE PLANET?

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- Incredible MITB 2011 match right afterwards

- Longest reign of the modern era with tons of great matches with Daniel Bryan, Jericho, Cena, etc

- 2 matches against The Rock

- Got over as a Face and Heel during the same run

- Had the match of the night vs The Undertaker at last week's mania

- Has been one of the best in the ring and the best on the mic since

- Fans absolutely love him whether they're supposed to or not

- Sells plenty of merchandise


And he didn't do great things? So because he's not as big as hogan, rock, or austin - something that is practically impossible in this day and age - that legendary promo meant nothing?



........ :russ:

Yeah. Basically. He's a talented upper midcard guy, but he ain't Austin/Rock/Hogan, which is exactly what I said.

And don't give me that apologist bullshyt about it being impossible to get that over nowadays. Why, because of their global reach and huge push towards social media, the WWE somehow has *less* exposure?

I'm sure no one saw the possibility of another megastar in the dark ol days of the 95/96 era either but low and behold, we got two.

The right guy can and will blow up. It just ain't Punk. He's a really, really good wrestler who happens to think he's in an elite class. He isn't.
 
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Love Spinners. Now which is it..do you credit Cripple H like you been doing NONSTOP all year yelling and screaming from the top of your lungs to anyone who would listen or is it now your new crush in CM Punk who you want to back up even though he's walking around with D Bryan's old gimmick and KENTA's moveset like a phony son of a bytch? Make a choice....a smart one at that.

Quite simple, HHH is responding from the success of CM Punk. CM Punk's actions and success have made it easy for HHH to make the changes.

We all know CM Punk can't make the change himself , but he can influence those who do make changes. He is the catalyst and HHH is the decision maker.

Can you follow that or is that out of your.....spectrum?
 

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SO you're saying he's the brain and central base of how Cripple H is making decisions? That's ONE beautiful spin, folks. The only thing that has been proven with CM Punk is that his White Shirt from 2011 is a big seller and he got a new tour bus and deal. That's all we've seen. Now at FIRST..people were saying Michaels were responsible for Bryan getting pushed and now it's CM Punk this week? Whatever it takes to keep the lies going, eh? Sounds about right.
 

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@Brad Piff...how do you feel about the hypocrisy of CM Punk aka the Rebel? Where those changes @? It's been almost two years..
punk was just paying his respects to the kliq :manny: cant argue with that, worked out fine for him in the end anyway.. kliq knows best
 
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SO you're saying he's the brain and central base of how Cripple H is making decisions?

No that isn't what i`m saying you comic book loving shmuck.

This isn't x-men and the WWE isn't a wicked cabal you spectrum disorder suffering goof.

I`m saying Phillip Brooks success and popularity has made Paul Levesque understand that professional wrestlers who learned their skills from Independently owned wrestling companies can be a commodity in a publicly owned corporate wrestling company.
 

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punk was just paying his respects to the kliq :manny: cant argue with that, worked out fine for him in the end anyway.. kliq knows best

I would say he tried to be Stone Cold light in truth. When the Kliq was shooting, it changed nothing except for when Scott Hall would do it. People loved to hear him shyt on cats.

No that isn't what i`m saying you comic book loving shmuck.

This isn't x-men and the WWE isn't a wicked cabal you spectrum disorder suffering goof.

I`m saying Phillip Brooks success and popularity has made Paul Levesque understand that professional wrestlers who learned their skills from Independently owned wrestling companies can be a commodity in a publicly owned corporate wrestling company.

Those first two lines are too silly to try to get. You're saying they're working in conjunction and Punk, even till this day, says he has to argue to get even his ideas out there in a respectable fashion. shyt, he just bashed the 4 way match for the Taker WM streak match. Cripple H never thought highly of Indy wrestling like that...he was an ass smooching b*stard who carried bags and shyt. That's why fans chant "PLEASE RETIRE" and no sell him HUGE out of Manias without the Undertaker.
 

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idk whether to :facepalm: or :popcorn: at the derailments anymore :pachaha:

Do people still think about the pipebomb promo when Punk is out there? shyt's slipped my mind since then
 

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Some would say that about Cena too and look who the top two guys are in the company right now :heh:
 

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So who do you think is better TS? because in all likelyhood they are not.
 
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Those first two lines are too silly to try to get. You're saying they're working in conjunction and Punk, even till this day, says he has to argue to get even his ideas out there in a respectable fashion. shyt, he just bashed the 4 way match for the Taker WM streak match. Cripple H never thought highly of Indy wrestling like that...he was an ass smooching b*stard who carried bags and shyt. That's why fans chant "PLEASE RETIRE" and no sell him HUGE out of Manias without the Undertaker.

And you just made my point. 3H was never big on Indy wrestlers.

Since Punk's success he has acquired many indy talents we all thought would never get a shot in WWE. El Generico is the best example of that.

I`m not saying CM Punk even gives suggestions or has any process in any decision making, i`m saying the byproduct of his success and popularity can be seen in HHH's decision making.

Punk's change has come through changing the perception of Indy wrestlers ability to perform in the big leagues.
 

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He's really crediting CM Punk for Daniel Bryan getting a chance on top. Unbelievable:laugh: Bryan was already a hot topic before CM Punk was bytching on a ramp....he got fired unjustly and came back to legitimate success. Punk was doing that SES shyt and getting punked out by Big Show again. He was well on his way long ago....he turned heel and stood out. That's how he got to where he is. Cesaro is fantastic but they left him off the Mania card and hid him from that Monday audience. Disgraceful.
 

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Oh hey, its time for another thread where the little group of #wrestlefags gather to complain, for no particular reason, about the best guy in a shytty company.

:yawn:
 
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