So we can't listen to a 5-6 minute song but a 3 hour podcast is fine?

[Shadow King]

All songs weren't short, but a lot of singles were many decades ago. A 45 record(that plays at 45 rpm) can hold but so much music. That's why you'd have James Brown songs that would be parts 1 and 2 on each side. Look at James browns biggest hits of the 60s. Almost all of those(if not all) are 3:30 or less. Then when the 70s came in, songs like "the payback" was over 7 minutes long. Songs like "king heroin" and "Public enemy" were 2 parts

I know all of that, but you said songs, you weren't specific to singles.

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

It’s true.. I won’t listen to a new artists 2 min song but I will listen to the Joe Budden podcast for 4 hours a pop.


If it’s an artist I’m familiar with I’ll give them a shot… no new nikkas tho unless u fire.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

It’s true.. I won’t listen to a new artists 2 min song but I will listen to the Joe Budden podcast for 4 hours a pop.


If it’s an artist I’m familiar with I’ll give them a shot… no new nikkas tho unless u fire.

I'm not listening to Ish, Ice, or Melyssa for more than 5 minutes

My brain doesn't deserve that

 

[BK The Great]

I don’t have time to watch any 3 hour podcast, give me the music and less gossiping about bullshyt. Leave that to the chatty patties. I don’t give a fukk about a lot of the shyt these pods talk about.

 

[DaHNIC82]

Can't listen to a album but can listen to Akademiks, Joe Rogan, or Kai Cenant for 4 hours straight. I don't get it.

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

I don’t have time to watch any 3 hour podcast, give me the music and less gossiping about bullshyt. Leave that to the chatty patties. I don’t give a fukk about a lot of the shyt these pods talk about.

The pods I listen to are basically coli thread topics I listen at work and maybe the car on the way. ZI don’t listen to podcast anywhere else really

 

[re'up]

passive vs active listening

a lot of people are like three things at once, scrolling their phone, listening to a podcast, cleaning the house/walking the dog

 

[CrimsonTider]

This is an excuse. Attention span is attention span. Songs are short now because rappers have less to say/ways to say things and brevity conceals that.

All songs were not 3 minutes or less. EP vs LP was based on total time, not number of songs. A 10 song project "shouldn't" be an EP, but today that project would be 22-25 minutes, so why not?

Breezy releases long albums for streaming/certification purposes. Not much different than a double album physical unit. But artistically, I agree, leave material on the cutting room floor.

nikka no

 

[BK The Great]

The pods I listen to are basically coli thread topics I listen at work and maybe the car on the way. ZI don’t listen to podcast anywhere else really

I only watch YouTube clips of stuff and that’s not regularly. It’s gotta be something I know about or even interested in. It’s way too much gossip, everything is away from the music in this day and age.

 

[Illuminatos]

Podcasts are background noise for when I'm doing something else like cleaning or eating. Plus I don't listen to them in one sitting. Sometimes it may take me a week to finish one podcast episode.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

I know all of that, but you said songs, you weren't specific to singles.

well, before the album became standard, it was the singles era decades ago. Everyone didn't get a chance for an album in the 45 era. I personally think we should go back to that for a lot of artists

 

[Deltron]

i've lsitened to this song on repeat before in one sitting

 

[Shadow King]

well, before the album became standard, it was the singles era decades ago. Everyone didn't get a chance for an album in the 45 era. I personally think we should go back to that for a lot of artists

That was when the commercial capabilities of music was still being discovered, and most people we can references to likely got albums. I agree with you because most current (rap) artists are not capable of making captivating albums.

We also have to acknowledge the unique quality of hip-hop where performer authenticity and perspective is more important, via lyrics, than other genre from back then. That lends to having more to say, not less.

I don't mind short songs but as someone who has made songs, I can tell that this wave isn't about those songs being well-constructed or brief for the sake of storytelling. It generally feels lazy.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

That was when the commercial capabilities of music was still being discovered, and most people we can references to likely got albums. I agree with you because most current (rap) artists are not capable of making captivating albums.

We also have to acknowledge the unique quality of hip-hop where performer authenticity and perspective is more important, via lyrics, than other genre from back then. That lends to having more to say, not less.

I don't mind short songs but as someone who has made songs, I can tell that this wave isn't about those songs being well-constructed or brief for the sake of storytelling. It generally feels lazy.

I made a post about this years ago that the very first artists I ever heard in which all of the songs were just 2 verses on an album was MF Doom with Madvillainy. He ushered in this 2 verse era. There were songs with only 2 verses prior to him, but not whole albums

 

[Shadow King]

I made a post about this years ago that the very first artists I ever heard in which all of the songs were just 2 verses on an album was MF Doom with Madvillainy. He ushered in this 2 verse era. There were songs with only 2 verses prior to him, but not whole albums

I'm not a Doom fan or listener to deny it, but Busta seemed to have a lot of that from When Disaster Strikes and on