this thread has been gold 
So, now that GGG vs JCC Jr is dead.....is GGG gonna duck Ward again?
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Thatrogueassdiaz
We're on the blood path now
This cold war is ruining boxing
krackdagawd
Inspire.
this thread has been gold
These dudes aren't going to slander SOG on my watch
We bringing that Old Testament brand of justice to these demons.
These dudes aren't going to slander SOG on my watch
We bringing that Old Testament brand of justice to these demons.
It's so angelic
#SOGGang
nikkas talking bout why doesnt he move up and fight Kovalev
SOG already told us why:
The same way he already ran through every single champion at 168 already and people still say he havent beat nobody is exactly what will happen when he goes and puts the "Hands Of God" on another boxer
krackdagawd
Inspire.
It's so angelic
#SOGGang
nikkas talking bout why doesnt he move up and fight Kovalev
SOG already told us why:
The same way he already ran through every single champion at 168 already and people still say he havent beat nobody is exactly what will happen when he goes and puts the "Hands Of God" on another boxer
They do the same shyt with Floyd if he doesn't fight them he is scared, he fights them and handles it easily and its "boxer x was trash anyway, flat footed blah blah blah cherry pick".
That's how you know we are stanning greatness, only 27 fights in this game and we already getting that Mayweather treatment/hate.
They do the same shyt with Floyd if he doesn't fight them he is scared, he fights them and handles it easily and its "boxer x was trash anyway, flat footed blah blah blah cherry pick".
That's how you know we are stanning greatness, only 27 fights in this game and we already getting that Mayweather treatment/hate.
Funny thing is Floyd was talking about he wished there was a way he could get both Ward and Mikey Garcia on TMT
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
As a member of #TheGGGoodBoys and someone who thinks they stay pretty level headed even when I am busing stanning, I will give my take:
GGG-JCC was about money and publicity for those two fighters. It wasnt about GGG moving up and since JCC wanted the fight at 168, he declared himself as a fighter of that division, not 160 anymore. (GGG and JCC are two of the top ratings champs for HBO or SHO regular broadcasts)
Throughout the whole negotiations GGG's camp has said they wanted to pursue and become the lineal 160 lb champ, but they couldn't do it with Martinez-Cotto going down, so they went for the biggest (money, popularity) fight available.
I have a lot of respect for Ward. In fact even though GGG is my fighter, I would favor #SOGGang because Ward is just that talented. He has earned his number 2 P4P spot.
But the ducking conversation is bullshyt IMO right now. GGG is still building his name and wants to reign the 160 lb weight class. Sure he could challenge Ward and move back down to 160...but can't we same for Ward with Kovalev? So is Ward ducking Kovalev? Both need a good fight and it would be easy to make...but Ward is naturally smaller than Kovalev...just like GGG is smaller than Ward.
Maybe this is due to the fickleness of the average boxing fans, losses to them mean a fighter ain't shyt, but to us hardcore fans - losses can elevate a fighter if he is pushing himself and fighting the best.
Basically this all comes down to: I would want Ward-GGG to fight...I also would want Ward-Kovalev to fight...but to expect a fighter to move up a weight class or call him a ducker is something you better have a case that is winnable in court worthy...and I think GGG and Ward hasnt even progressed beyond general conversation.
GGG-JCC was about money and publicity for those two fighters. It wasnt about GGG moving up and since JCC wanted the fight at 168, he declared himself as a fighter of that division, not 160 anymore. (GGG and JCC are two of the top ratings champs for HBO or SHO regular broadcasts)
Throughout the whole negotiations GGG's camp has said they wanted to pursue and become the lineal 160 lb champ, but they couldn't do it with Martinez-Cotto going down, so they went for the biggest (money, popularity) fight available.
I have a lot of respect for Ward. In fact even though GGG is my fighter, I would favor #SOGGang because Ward is just that talented. He has earned his number 2 P4P spot.
But the ducking conversation is bullshyt IMO right now. GGG is still building his name and wants to reign the 160 lb weight class. Sure he could challenge Ward and move back down to 160...but can't we same for Ward with Kovalev? So is Ward ducking Kovalev? Both need a good fight and it would be easy to make...but Ward is naturally smaller than Kovalev...just like GGG is smaller than Ward.
Maybe this is due to the fickleness of the average boxing fans, losses to them mean a fighter ain't shyt, but to us hardcore fans - losses can elevate a fighter if he is pushing himself and fighting the best.
Basically this all comes down to: I would want Ward-GGG to fight...I also would want Ward-Kovalev to fight...but to expect a fighter to move up a weight class or call him a ducker is something you better have a case that is winnable in court worthy...and I think GGG and Ward hasnt even progressed beyond general conversation.
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Ward has already done this song and dance though.
He's already put the beats on all the "good Euros" and people dont give him any credit for it (outside of the SOGGang and Boxing heads within the sport). So, like Ward said, if he moves up to fight Kovalev and when he beats him, it's gonna be the same "he's 1 dimensional" "Kovalev was a bum" "Who did Kovalev beat?" and not get any credit for it. I mean hell, he beat Mikkel Kessler, Arthur Abraham, Carl Froch, Sakio Bika, and Chad Dawson (who challenged WARD at 168, not the other way a round) and gets no credit for it. Froch, Abraham, and Bika are all World Champions at 168 (WBO, IBF, WBC) and nikkas still look down on SOG for beating them...even though no one else is
At least with GGG it would be worth the money to put the Hands of God on him and not receive any credit. With Kovalev it wont.
but they don't hear you though.
at ducking a nikka and you ain't even fight at his weight class yet. If GGG would have beat Chavez Jr and said fukk a Ward fight or any top 168lber of note, then yeah you can call it a duck, but since the fight fell through nikkas need to take that duck talk and With that logic. Rigo needs to stop ducking Mikey Garcia.
and trust me Ward will definitely get more credit for beating Kovalev than he would GGG at this point. First off Kovalev is the bigger man who's a known puncher. 2nd his wins over Campillo and Cleverly are much better than any names GGG has on his resume. Ward just wants the easier fight. Simple as that. He'll chase after the smaller man, but
when it comes to moving up.
Why would GGG fight Ward for 357 dollars and two free AMC Silver Experience tickets?
LOL @ people thinking GGG plans on moving up to face a Z-list money loser
If GGG ever fights Ward, ratings will even go DOWN compared to GGG's last fight
LOL @ people thinking GGG plans on moving up to face a Z-list money loser
If GGG ever fights Ward, ratings will even go DOWN compared to GGG's last fight
Yes. He is. And you know he is because you have to remind people he's the P4P #2 in the world every time he's mentioned. What's he done to maintain this P4P status though? You like talking about blown up junior middleweights...Ward's best win is against a weight-drained light-heavyweight he was too scared to go up in weight and fight
Scared....scared is the story of Andre Ward. Was afraid to go to up in weight to make fights, was afraid to go to Montreal to fight Bute, was afraid to go to England to fight Froch, throughout 2012-2013 adamantly refused to fight anyone unless they met the most ridiculous demands in the recent history of overvalued champions.
Now he'severywhere willing to fight anyone, anywhere...but it's too late, no one fukking cares, and his promoter has him handcuffed with all evidence in his favor thanks to how unyielding Ward was after the Super 6.
Meanwhile, every other fighter from 160-175 is spoiled with options, and none of them involve throwing Ward any crumbs
#GoodBoys
#SonOfAllah
#2013FighterOfTheYear
krackdagawd
Inspire.
Yeah because GGG is really bringing in money fighting nobodies that HBO won't even show.
His next fight might have to be on univision or some shyt
A Ward fight would be his highest pay to date, you sounding like the typical Ward hater, living in a fantasy world.
Kings County
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ward needs to talk more trash when u got talent u gotta have personality with it or u not gon make any money ali, floyd, tyson nikka is talented just needs more exposureYes. He is. And you know he is because you have to remind people he's the P4P #2 in the world every time he's mentioned. What's he done to maintain this P4P status though? You like talking about blown up junior middleweights...Ward's best win is against a weight-drained light-heavyweight he was too scared to go up in weight and fight
Scared....scared is the story of Andre Ward. Was afraid to go to up in weight to make fights, was afraid to go to Montreal to fight Bute, was afraid to go to England to fight Froch, throughout 2012-2013 adamantly refused to fight anyone unless they met the most ridiculous demands in the recent history of overvalued champions.
Now he's
Meanwhile, every other fighter from 160-175 is spoiled with options, and none of them involve throwing Ward any crumbs
#GoodBoys
#SonOfAllah
#2013FighterOfTheYear
Yeah because GGG is really bringing in money fighting nobodies that HBO won't even show.
His next fight might have to be on univision or some shyt
A Ward fight would be his highest pay to date, you sounding like the typical Ward hater, living in a fantasy world.
it astounds me how people will ignore straight facts just to get their point acrossHBO wanted to be in control of the venue GGG fought in in Monte Carlo, and they didn't do it because they weren't. GGG some of the highest ratings for HBO when he fights.
krackdagawd
Inspire.
HBO wanted to be in control of the venue GGG fought in in Monte Carlo, and they didn't do it because they weren't. GGG some of the highest ratings for HBO when he fights.
I'm ignoring the facts?
Was his last fight on hbo?
Is his next fight in danger of not being on hbo?
How many champions has GGG fought?
Has he even fought anyone recognized at a top 5 middleweight?
What does Ward usually earn per fight?
What does GGG earn?
I know you are still furious over the beatings Ward has given your Euro cac brethren but let's not let that make you bias friend.