So, Native Americans Are Claiming To Have Created R&B, Blues And Other Genres We've Created

[Bawon Samedi]

Then those broads will take DNA tests that will show them as .02% Native American and 75% African, but still claim to be Native American.

Still won't work. They claim DNA is a cac conspiracy. lol.

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

y'all really think she speaks for native americans in here?

 

[Everythingg]

I wasn't talking about her, I was talking about the first video.

Look at the thread turn

She understands that there were black people everywhere, not just Africa. That picture I posted is a mural from a Mayan temple yet nikkas come in here to still play dumb. Then they'll turn around and use murals in Egypt to prove the ancient Egyptians were black

 

[96Blue]

Look at the thread turn

She understands that there were black people everywhere, not just Africa. That picture I posted is a mural from a Mayan temple yet nikkas come in here to still play dumb. Then they'll turn around and use murals in Egypt to prove the ancient Egyptians were black

Honestly, ima keep it real with you Breh, I DO think there were SOME Black people here already. Not ALOT, but SOME.

Mufuggas can call me crazy if they want too.

 

[13473]

don't think i've even seen a native dance before aside from that playground skipping thing

never seen anybody skip to some r&b music.

 

[Samori Toure]

PS: The woman who runs the channel is a Black Native American, apparently. She also has a video saying that Soul Food is not slave food and that her family ate Soul Food, but they were never enslaved.

@IllmaticDelta what the Hell are these fake ass Injuns singing? It is not the Blues. It sounds like some kind of hybrid of call and response, but that is not from the Native people.

 

[Everythingg]

It's not even real natives probably.

Sadly, It's just confused Afr'Ams suckered into this black-indigenous conspiracy crap trying to accredit Afr'Am music to indigenous people to help build their weak case that our ancestors were of pre columbian american, not African, stock.

Just another case of throwing shyt at the wall and hoping it sticks, just like they do by with throwing up a bunch of random supposed depictions of indigenous americans in your face and aggressively insisting that they 'look black/negroid' and therefore the real indigenous were black/negroid(one of them has already stormed into this thread).

I can tell you the type a dude to be looking at the floor when in a real one's presence. Next time @ me...

"Conspiracy crap" are murals from a temple? Or how about these murals in China?

Let someone come here and say the Egyptians were anything but black and watch nikkas put up depictions to show how they were. Yet the buck stops with America, Europe and Asia? These are from a Buddhist temple in China:

Theres a pattern and that pattern so called black people were first in everyland before anyone else.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

That ain't no damn authentic amerindian music. It's sounds like they're trying take the authentic native style, but trying to black gospelize it. The Pure Fe is Thelonious Monk's cousin and belongs to one of them "black indian" triracial tribes


River of Song: Music Along the River

 

[Supper]

I can tell you the type a dude to be looking at the floor when in a real one's presence. Next time @ me...

I can tell you the type a dude that be ready to jump out his skin and freeze up the moment someone takes your weird ass up on all that vapid posturing just by the way you go out of your way to call yourself a "real one" online.

I didn't @ you because I'm not interested in a convo that involves you skirting around every point in a game of hotep "pictionary".

"Conspiracy crap" are murals from a temple? Or how about these murals in China?

Let someone come here and say the Egyptians were anything but black and watch nikkas put up depictions to show how they were. Yet the buck stops with America, Europe and Asia? These are from a Buddhist temple in China:

So in two post you've jumped from Indigenous Americans, to Chinese, to egyptians. It's like I said "just throwing a bunch shyt at the wall and hoping something sticks".

Tell ya what. You actually come with some credible peer reviewed sources to your claims of indigenous "blacks in America", especially in the form of dna mapping and I'll engage with that. Until then, you on ignore.

 

[Everythingg]

I can tell you the type a dude that be ready to jump out his skin and freeze up the moment someone takes your weird ass up on all that vapid posturing just by the way you go out of your way to call yourself a "real one" online.

I didn't @ you because I'm not interested in a convo that involves you skirting around every point in a game of hotep "pictionary".

I never said anything about me being real or not. I said you're the type to look down when in the presence of one. I can sense it thru the computer

Is it "hotep pictionary" when nikkas used the Egyptian murals to say that Egypt was originally black?

So in two post you've from Indigenous Americans, to Chinese, to egyptians. It's like I said "just throwing a bunch shyt at the wall and hoping something sticks".

Im explaining that black people are and were worldwide and not limited to Africa. These are the ancestors to the asians...

Tell ya what. You actually come with some credible peer reviewed sources to your claims of indigenous "blacks in America", especially in the form of dna mapping and I'll engage with that. Until then, you on ignore.

You can put me on ignore lil dude. Thankfully the truth cant be on ignore. So in these type of threads, I'll be there repeating the same thing I always do. Black people were everywhere not just Africa. The oldest art proves it. What the people from around those times said proves it. I dont care about what people are saying today because yall believe narratives. You'll ignore what was said then, and what was depicted then, for your narratives. Oh, thats until its Egypt. Then we go to the walls and say "See they're black!"

 

[Everythingg]

Honestly, ima keep it real with you Breh, I DO think there were SOME Black people here already. Not ALOT, but SOME.

Mufuggas can call me crazy if they want too.

Nah breh. Its more than some. It was alot. Im made of a different cloth I guess. If Im going to call anyone African, its going to be the first ones there. Same with American, Europe, Asian etc.... The art depicts the first Americans, Europeans, Asians, and Africans as being black. Of course there are different kinds of black such as:

AND

 

[Gzifa]

Cornbread and grits...maybe lol, cause even with that there’s evidence our ancestors had advance knowledge of various uses of corn before they made it to America just because the slave trade facilitated the exchange of crops both ways from the very beginning.

That’s one thing that always annoyed me about a lot of explanations about Soul Food. Too often our ancestors are made out to be mindless drones who sat up under the wing of Europeans and Native Americans to learn how to cook, which is a bunch bullshyt. It’s the other side of the “scraps of the pig” explanation that most people run with. Thankfully that tide is turning and real scholarship that gives our ancestors their proper due has been leading the forefront as of late.

It’s still an uphill battle though, because no part of AA culture has been maligned and misunderstood more than Soul Food.

I'm glad there are books coming out now to correct the historical record because claiming Natives had any extensive influence on our foodways is a reach. Not saying there was no influence, I'm sure there was some exchange. But it's not like our ancestors were transported to Mars.

I imagine a scenario of a person with agricultural and botanical knowledge and various ways to prepare food. If that person were transported to a new land tomorrow that they'd never visited before, it's not like they would lose that knowledge on the flight over, is it? They would learn the plants they were unfamiliar with in the new land based on their prior knowledge and experience back home. They would learn to subsist in this new land and pass their methods down through the generations.

Any accounts overstating Native and white impact on our culture assume our people were blank slates with no prior cultural context before arriving in the US, and that's as antiblack as it gets. Do any Natives eat food resembling soul/Southern food today? Our cuisine is more similar to other cuisines found in the African diaspora than Native food. That should be enough to debunk the Native influence hypothesis on its own.

 

[im_sleep]

I'm glad there are books coming out now to correct the historical record because claiming Natives had any extensive influence on our foodways is a reach. Not saying there was no influence, I'm sure there was some exchange. But it's not like our ancestors were transported to Mars.

I imagine a scenario of a person with agricultural and botanical knowledge and various ways to prepare food. If that person were transported to a new land tomorrow that they'd never visited before, it's not like they would lose that knowledge on the flight over, is it? They would learn the plants they were unfamiliar with in the new land based on their prior knowledge and experience back home. They would learn to subsist in this new land and pass their methods down through the generations.

Any accounts overstating Native and white impact on our culture assume our people were blank slates with no prior cultural context before arriving in the US, and that's as antiblack as it gets. Do any Natives eat food resembling soul/Southern food today? Our cuisine is more similar to other cuisines found in the African diaspora than Native food. That should be enough to debunk the Native influence hypothesis on its own.

People act like our ancestors got hit with the memory zapper device from Men in Black when they got off the ship. It’s disrespectful as hell.

You’re outlook is from a rational, unbiased perspective which allows you to come to logical conclusions...how it should be. Most on this topic approach it from a lazy, biased perspective that defies any kind of logic or sense because the negative myths they’ve been fed their whole lives must be true so why even bother questioning it, even when the contrary is staring right in their face.

For a lot of us, our ancestors dignity ain’t even worth a 5 min google search that would easily debunk the bullshyt. That’s concerning.

 

[AlainLocke]

I'm glad there are books coming out now to correct the historical record because claiming Natives had any extensive influence on our foodways is a reach. Not saying there was no influence, I'm sure there was some exchange. But it's not like our ancestors were transported to Mars.

I imagine a scenario of a person with agricultural and botanical knowledge and various ways to prepare food. If that person were transported to a new land tomorrow that they'd never visited before, it's not like they would lose that knowledge on the flight over, is it? They would learn the plants they were unfamiliar with in the new land based on their prior knowledge and experience back home. They would learn to subsist in this new land and pass their methods down through the generations.

Any accounts overstating Native and white impact on our culture assume our people were blank slates with no prior cultural context before arriving in the US, and that's as antiblack as it gets. Do any Natives eat food resembling soul/Southern food today? Our cuisine is more similar to other cuisines found in the African diaspora than Native food. That should be enough to debunk the Native influence hypothesis on its own.

Indigenous people and New World Blacks did have cross cultural connection, but I would argue that it isn't significant because the Native slaves were killed off. Unless you were a Black Cherokee or a Black Seminole, I would argue that most ADOS did not have extensive contact with Natives to the point our cultures would merge.

Most of the slaves were picked due to their skills that they cultivated in Africa, they weren't a blank slate - I agree with you on that.

 

[Dominoes]

Black people with varying phenotypes have been circumnavigating the world way before slavery.
We're they "your" ancestors? Probably not. Would they be considered "black" today? Yes


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