so Mitt said Tesla Motors is a "loser"

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If stealthbomber glaringly avoids Obama and his adminstration's total screw up on their investment into Solyndra and the mismanagement of taxpayer dollars, then I'm going to point it out.
Failure is part of life and investing.
That's the cry of the welfare recipient.
lol wut?

Hearsay. You would have to prove that with actual sales numbers of vehicles in that price range for your city.

The BMW 3 series is one of the best selling cars in the US.
If Fisker and Tesla could do similar numbers they would be successful.
 

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You proved 1. Obama's failure isn't worth getting a second term.

2. you have no hard sales figures proving that $50,000 is the average cost of a car sold in your city. BMW isn't even in the top 10. Cars in the top 10 aren't even close to $50,000.
Top 10 best-selling cars in September

And if you want to look at all of 2011. Here's the list. BMW isn't in the top 10. No cars are in the $50,000 or higher range.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/top-10/top-10-best-selling-vehicles-for-2011.html
 

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You proved 1. Obama's failure isn't worth getting a second term.

2. you have no hard sales figures proving that $50,000 is the average cost of a car sold in your city. BMW isn't even in the top 10. Cars in the top 10 aren't even close to $50,000.
Top 10 best-selling cars in September

And if you want to look at all of 2011. Here's the list. BMW isn't in the top 10. No cars are in the $50,000 or higher range.
Top 10 Best-Selling Vehicles for 2011 - Edmunds.com

If you think focusing on what one company, of one aspect of Presidency is indicative of not deserving a second term. That's really interesting.

No, I do not. But using deduction I came to that conclusion. When I look around the majority of vehicles are well over $30,000 dollars a Camry can run $40,000. F series trucks aren't cheap and the majority are bought buy companies.
 

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If you think focusing on what one company, of one aspect of Presidency is indicative of not deserving a second term. That's really interesting.
No, it's only one aspect.
Removing the don't ask don't tell policy in the military. His pro-gay stance is another. If you are for it, then fine. I'm not.
His Obamacare program. I don't support it. If you do, fine.
His economic policy. Where are all the new jobs? How many jobs were lost. How many unemployed people maxed out on unemployment insurance and no longer could file for unemployment? What happened to the deficit? What happened to trade imbalance with China?

No, I do not. But using deduction I came to that conclusion. When I look around the majority of vehicles are well over $30,000 dollars a Camry can run $40,000. F series trucks aren't cheap and the majority are bought buy companies.
Deduce? If you look at the bottom 7 cars in the top 10, they are all mainly under $30,000; and total sales of the bottom 7 of the top 10 is over 1,700,000 vehicles sold. That brings down the average cost of vehicles sold.

You deduced that your city's average cost of a car is $50,000 based on assumptions. I mean, if you live in a nice neighborhood, that's great. But, if you drive everywhere in your city, you are not going to see a plethora of $50,000 cars unless you live in Potomac, MD or Beverly Hills, CA.
 

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The cars are too expensive, no one wants them

Elon musk gets as much government $$ as any business man... He really knows how to pimp the system

have you ever wonder why are the cars STILL in 2012 too expensive? its the battery.

why is the battery still so expensive in 2012?

these batteries have been around since the 70's people.

the oil companies will actually buy out companies, corps, as well as create their own, get on commities for other energies. to make sure that these energy efficient cars(batteries), etc Wind/Solar power are always too expensive for the regular man. WHY? should be our question in 2012.

one simple answer is, why would you want to change how you make billions if you are already making hand over fist money right now doing it the old way? why would you want to invest serious money in R&D, new infrastructure, new plants, etc. new marketing, etc. when you can just pump out oil the old fashion way.

if the oil companies would stop trying to STOP the other energies for coming out or if they would assist in making these types of alternative energies a priority, by now 1970-2012 i think ine 42 years, we could've figured out how to make a long lasting car battery on the cheap. i mean people we're talking about 42 years. are we really that dumb where we cant figure it out in that amt of time? or is something else(oil companies, the old guard) holding up progress on PURPOSE?

yall want new jobs, yall want a new boom,similar to bill clintons .com boom. let the old guard get out of the way of progress and actually get into the thick of it and try to assist us in using other energies. it would create so many jobs it aint even funny. in addition it would prepare our old manufacturing base for a new brand of manufacturing. that we the US would lead the world in. and be the ones shipping all of our products overseas for their consumption instead the other way around. but why do that if you're the big boys up top and already have a tried and true setup for making billions. why stop what you're doing? financially speaking you shouldnt. morally speaking you should.

lets look at it like this

wind energy, solar, car batteries, etc. would be a lot less emissions. even if you dont believe in that stuff effecting global warming. we all agree it effects our health(breathing, allergies, etc). so if you could have better health based on the air quality becoming better. thats a win in medical costs. money saved.

we would spend a lot less at the gas pump. which would also save us money(us being every day citizens). but it would save shipping companies money if they come up with batteries for big trucks as well. imagine the amt of money saved there. thats money right back into the hands of business owners. this would bring the cost of shipping down as well. making it more profitable to ship items to your customers.

another win for the customer now pays less for the product since shipping is a lot less.

but notice a theme here. everyone is winning not just the boys at the top. but for everyone to win the boys at the top has to work with us. they dont want to do that. because they already have a tried and true method that makes billions today.to them, "if it aint broke..."
to us "its broke, fix it"

they think "says who?"
 

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2013 Automobile of the Year: Tesla Model S - Automobile Magazine

The auto industry is tough enough for a giant like General Motors. What we can say with this award is that Tesla deserves to succeed. It has managed to blend the innovation of a Silicon Valley start-up, the execution of a world-class automaker, and, yes, the chutzpah of its visionary leader. The result is the Model S. It's not vaporware. It's our Automobile of the Year.

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gundamzeta where you at?
 

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My uncle just got one of these after being on the waitlist for about a year. It's futuristic as hell and the construction is solid. They really put a lot of thought and effort into this thing.
 

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Im going long on tesla... I don't need mitt Romney's advice on stock evaluation. He can help me manage a company though.

Fisker is a failure though... Tesla has avoided the dealer model and saves money by supplying his own parts has an incredible warranty and will make a more affordable vehicle in 2016... Only doubt is when the tax credit runs out but that's a while from now. Their suv will sell more as well... They were the highest shorted stock but all those guys are reversing their shorts... They should he about 150 share price in about 2 years
 
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