Did Shaq win a title before Kobe developed into a great player?
Shaq went to a finals w/o Kobe and won w/o him as well. YOu could have replaced Kobe with any other top SG/SF in the league and he'd have the same results.
So mike brown is a reasonable scape goat for kobe but not for lebron?
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Shaq went to a finals w/o Kobe and won w/o him as well. YOu could have replaced Kobe with any other top SG/SF in the league and he'd have the same results.
The fact that he even made it to the playoffs with those bum squads show how great of an individual player Kobe was. 
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It's hilarious. When the Bron/Kobe debates were going on and cats kept saying "Lebron is stuck with Mike Brown" while Kobe had Phil, dudes straight up dismissed that part.
NOW.....that he's the Lakers coach, they're saying "we're stuck with Mike Brown"
fukk em. I can't rock with these unprincipled niqqas in here who first dismiss logic only to embrace it depending on who it benefits. YEAH, I"M TALKING TO YOU!!!
NOW.....that he's the Lakers coach, they're saying "we're stuck with Mike Brown"
fukk em. I can't rock with these unprincipled niqqas in here who first dismiss logic only to embrace it depending on who it benefits. YEAH, I"M TALKING TO YOU!!!
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Y'all say this like Lebron doesn't get a pass for the entire Cavs run (people to this day maintain that those 60plus win 1st seeded Cavs were nothing but Bron and completely untalented bums that had no chance of winning at all) and like Kobe isn't nailed to a cross every year he doesn't win a ring 
despite already winning FIVE of them...
he's the most prolific winner of his generation and people still nitpick and try to condemn him for every little thing damn near 20 years into his career and as accomplished and decorated as any player in pro sports history damn near
The scapegoating of coaches is STILL overplayed now...then and now...just like Coach Spo was crucified the first year with the heat..."OH they can't possibly win because Spo is so terrible"...then he wins and all that disappears...the lakers can win with Mike Brown, it's just on the players to get it done of the floor
despite already winning FIVE of them... he's the most prolific winner of his generation and people still nitpick and try to condemn him for every little thing damn near 20 years into his career and as accomplished and decorated as any player in pro sports history damn nearThe scapegoating of coaches is STILL overplayed now...then and now...just like Coach Spo was crucified the first year with the heat..."OH they can't possibly win because Spo is so terrible"...then he wins and all that disappears...the lakers can win with Mike Brown, it's just on the players to get it done of the floor
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You say this like Lebron doesn't get a pass for the entire Cavs run (people to this day maintain that those 60plus 1st seeded Cavs were nothing but Bron and completely untalented bums that had no chance of winning at all) and like Kobe isn't nailed to a cross every year he doesn't win a ring
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Y'all been coddling that boy's balls acting like he had absolutely no chance to win in Cleveland for years now...and are STILL doing it...
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Long Live The Kane
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Keep it moving then...I ain't the one that quoted you calling you a liar with no substantive point made whatsoever
NYC Rebel
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Keep it moving then?Keep it moving then...I ain't the one that quoted you calling you a liar with no substantive point made whatsoever
Dog, if we were face to face, half that shyt you posting wouldn't be said.
fukk outta here. I can tell you in your face that the same cats NOW saying Mike Brown is the problem weren't when he was coaching Bron. And saying THAT got you aggy enough to get on this internet sideways talking.
STOP DISRESPECTING KOBE fakkit! NEGGED!
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Keep it moving then?
Dog, if we were face to face, half that shyt you posting wouldn't be said.
fukk outta here. I can tell you in your face that the same cats NOW saying Mike Brown is the problem weren't when he was coaching Bron. And saying THAT got you aggy enough to get on this internet sideways talking.
Ain't shyt you said got me aggy....YOU'RE the one that responded to me...and haven't factually addressed a single thing I've said other than just categorically calling me a liar...if you have no intention of actually making some kind of sense about my actual posts, and instead just want to shadow box with the ghost of lebron butthurt past...I must maintain, again...keep it moving
NYC Rebel
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What am I hurt about?
The Kobe stans are the ones hurt about a coach I done said was a problem.
You're a fukking retard coming with this misapplied hurt.
There's nothing to address. If the old site were up, I'd show you links of the SAME niqqas in here saying Brown wasn't the issue are NOW saying Brown is an issue.
Long Live The Kane
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What am I hurt about?
The Kobe stans are the ones hurt about a coach I done said was a problem.
You're a fukking retard coming with this misapplied hurt.
There's nothing to address. If the old site were up, I'd show you links of the SAME niqqas in here saying Brown wasn't the issue are NOW saying Brown is an issue.
The fukk that gotta do with me or my post
NYC Rebel
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The fukk that gotta do with me or my post
It has everything to do with THIS post where our conversation began.
LOL @ dude getting a pass.
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Yes he got a pass...and continues to get a pass...we don't even have to get to the Mike Brown point...there are a gang of people that maintain they he had no legitimate chance at winning AT ALL on that team...no matter the coach....if we're talking about talking points, excuses, and passes made on the old site...Lebron is certainly in no deficit when it comes to excuses being made for him not winning..especially not compared to Kobe, who ain't somebody that's been exempt from criticism throughout his career despite being a perennial winner...mike brown being a bad coach is like 3rd or 4th on the scapegoat depth chart