So let's talk about David Bowie being a white supremacist :)

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Box Cutta said:
Playing devils advocate a bit....

Nazi imagery wasn't considered as much of a faux-pas in the past, and the punk scene of the late-70's/early 80's considered some of their imagery fashionable.

Bands like Siouxsie And The Banshees, Joy Division, Sex Pistols, etc have been photographed wearing swastikas, it's hard to say how many were believers in their ideology...but many were doing it for aesthetic purposes and to be "shocking".

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Not trying to cop-pleas for anyone, and I don't really know what Bowie's motivations were, just saying, there might be some context behind it....:manny:

Regardless, I agree 100 percent...when black celebs pull some shyt, nobody ever lets it go. Whites are given a pass immediately.

I'm wondering how people are going to look back on homophobia in rap...and I wonder if Eminem will be at the forefront of the discussion (As he should be). The agenda won...now a bunch of dudes gonna be vilified by history....:pachaha:
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That would explain the clothing.

But then factor in:

- his repeated public admiration of Adolf Hitler.

- His biographer statin that he was obsessed with Hitler and the Third Reich

- Alleged Nazi salute in front of fans

- Stated that he believes in fascism strongly and that Britain needs a fascist leader

- Moved to Berlin. Nothing else to say, David Bowie moved to Berlin

- He apologised later on for his past beliefs (indicating that it was more than fashionable clothing)



...I mean dude, how many coincidences you wanna give him :patrice:
 
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Box Cutta said:
Playing devils advocate a bit....

Nazi imagery wasn't considered as much of a faux-pas in the past, and the punk scene of the late-70's/early 80's considered some of their imagery fashionable.

Bands like Siouxsie And The Banshees, Joy Division, Sex Pistols, etc have been photographed wearing swastikas, it's hard to say how many were believers in their ideology...but many were doing it for aesthetic purposes and to be "shocking".

Siouxsie Sioux

lri9Mjr.jpg


gbu6rDM.jpg


FXZS6Mo.jpg


Not trying to cop-pleas for anyone, and I don't really know what Bowie's motivations were, just saying, there might be some context behind it....:manny:

Regardless, I agree 100 percent...when black celebs pull some shyt, nobody ever lets it go. Whites are given a pass immediately.

I'm wondering how people are going to look back on homophobia in rap...and I wonder if Eminem will be at the forefront of the discussion (As he should be). The agenda won...now a bunch of dudes gonna be vilified by history....:pachaha:
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Reasonable post. I listen to all that old sh!t, punk, post-punk, new wave, and admittedly it was a bit weird seeing the Nazi sh!t when I first started exploring that stuff. Especially when you consider that most of that scene tends to identify with far Left political and social views. Funny thing about Joy Division too, was that their name was Nazi related in itself. Still, I think it's noteworthy that the artists from that time frame who flirted with Nazi imagery, cut back on Nazi sh!t when the National Front and Neo-Nazi Skinhead culture started to spread like wildfire in the late 70's. I suppose they didn't want to risk being identified with groups such as Skrewdriver, and as well to take a stand against views they found to be repugnant hence Rock Against Racism which sprung about in the late 70's. (then the fitting white nationalist response that was/is Rock Against Fascism). You still had individuals and people that flirted with both sides of Nazi imagery though throughout the years. Wattie from The Exploited comes to mind as well as Flanagan from the Cro Mags in later years here in the US.
 
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loyola llothta said:
Probably the same reason you post in this thread

You cosigning a pedo just because his music kind of militant of you



:mjlol:Mexican calling a black person militant as insult but want to scream that black and brown call coalition
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I ain't screaming about a black and brown nothing. I ain't trying to change y'all thoughts about me. If you see me as an enemy than so be it. I got plenty of friends who I've known since we were kids that got my back just like I got theirs. And yeah they are black so :manny:
 
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Sithlord Piff said:
Why are you basing my opinion off of what Jamar said? I posted Bowie's pics and videos in the tribute thread so what are you talking about?
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I wasn't basing your opinion on what Jamar said nor was the rest of my post directed at you specifically. I should've made that clear, my bad.
 
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Bowie was a racist but he never discriminated against any Black person for any opportunities like true White supremacist. He spent the next 4 decades advocating for, cosigning and breaking Black artist. Also leaves his filthy rich estate to a Black woman. I'm all for forgiveness if your actions align.

BTW he was acquitted of those charges of pedophilia. The same people who defend Cosby should understand.
 
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Reasonable post. I listen to all that old sh!t, punk, post-punk, new wave, and admittedly it was a bit weird seeing the Nazi sh!t when I first started exploring that stuff. Especially when you consider that most of that scene tends to identify with far Left political and social views. Funny thing about Joy Division too, was that their name was Nazi related in itself. Still, I think it's noteworthy that the artists from that time frame who flirted with Nazi imagery, cut back on Nazi sh!t when the National Front and Neo-Nazi Skinhead culture started to spread like wildfire in the late 70's. I suppose they didn't want to risk being identified with groups such as Skrewdriver, and as well to take a stand against views they found to be repugnant hence Rock Against Racism which sprung about in the late 70's. (then the fitting white nationalist response that was/is Rock Against Fascism). You still had individuals and people that flirted with both sides of Nazi imagery though throughout the years. Wattie from The Exploited comes to mind as well as Flanagan from the Cro Mags in later years here in the US.
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Yep...you know your shyt breh.
 
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