So Kanye didnt just take back the Jay Never change beat, he took the hook too. Savage

[TheRtist]

Ye deserved it. The slimiest thing a producer can do is sell a beat to an artist then turn go and sell the beat right after to another artist. That's a "get bust up side your head" offense. He lucky he ain't get that Booghatti treatment.

Yep, it was a dikk move and I'm sure Ye knew the potential consequences.

Trife nikkas who produce and sell the same beat twice, nikka - Nelly "Country Grammer"

 

[TheRtist]

It's business at the end of the day. As a man, he should have tried to set dude up with a situation.

foreal, gave dude co producer credit or some royalties, or even paid him 200% on what he paid Kanye.

 

[TheRtist]

Yep! The Jadakiss and Ras Kass situation was actually the first time I heard about double beat selling. I'm glad that ALC and Ras Kass ironed everything out and have gone on to make more good music. It's funny because Priority fukked both of them on that one. Alchemist never got all of the money for the beat, and Priority never was able to get that beat Kass' album (or two others that ALC did that no one ever talks about).

Home Sweet Home cost $7,500. I wonder what Kiss/Ruff Ryders paid for it. Also, Nas passed on that beat too.


But yeah, now that I really listen to Payroll's lyrics, I definitely think Jay probably heard the entire record.

Also, it wasn't beyond Jay to take an already finished song and remove someone. Obviously, this was done with Royce's consent, but this is the original version of Renegade (also on Blueprint) for anyone that never heard it. All they did was replace Royce's verses with Jay's verses, Em added some more production, and that was it. I don;t think Em even re-recorded his verses, since they just scratched over the part where he said "He's Royce, he's the king of Detroit."



EDIT: It actually does sound like Em re-recorded his verses.

Yea he re-recorded it and thats not actual scratching. Thats him saying "Thats Jigga" then makes scratching sounds so it rhymes.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Yea he re-recorded it and thats not actual scratching. Thats him saying "Thats Jigga" then makes scratching sounds so it rhymes.

Been listening for years. Never caught that.

 

[TheRtist]

Been listening for years. Never caught that.

your welcome

 

[So-Chi]

Go on...

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what do you know about this?

No idea about the second one.... But right after Payroll did that he got jumped immediately. He tells the story himself, it's not like he didn't expect a response, he just didn't think all them dudes were with Ye...

 

[Bickin Back Being Bool]

the people saying they wouldn't have gave jay z the beat

 

[keond]

Well dude rappin stole Jay's style so

 

[Low End Derrick]

Damn didnt know dude died

Longtime Chicago Rapper Payroll Has Reportedly Died Of Drug Overdose - Hip-Hop Wired

Payroll, a veteran of Chicago's Hip-Hop scene, has died. Although speculation was high that he was murdered, the rapper reportedly suffered a drug overdose.

hiphopwired.com

 

[TrifeGod]

thats crazy its leavin to this type of shyt a rapper would be extra extra mad if its a track about his personal life and the strife he’a been through..that beat coulda touched his soul so i know he was mad as hell

a freestyle beat or a regular track a rapper might just verbally diss you