So If Superman is willing to kill, why do we need Superman vs Batman

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They'll have no significance to the story line in the movie. They're going to be small cameos. No different than what Marvel does in the after credit scenes

Pretty much this. I think the only one getting major screen time will be Wonder Woman and it'll be like the last 30-45 minutes of the movie.
 

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I thought the whole point of the Superman, Batman relationship, was that Clark keeps Bruce from going over the edge. Well Superman already killed someone in Man Of Steel so he's willing to cross that line, what's the point of adding Batman, Is Batman going to be Superman's conscious? If so hows that gonna work, when Supes get's tired of that nikka and drops a building on his head.

Man DC can't get right.
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In Comics Superman killed zod as well. That was the only time he killed someone though.
 

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The story of superman is that a father sent his only begotten son to earth who as a he grew up began performing miracles and served as mans savior...if you can't do the math on that.....I mean he literally died and came back once
I am not ignoring the Jesus stuff but there is a strong hint of Moses too...he is like a combo of the two.
 

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Batman's role isn't to keep Superman in check or from going over the edge; Clark trusts Batman to do what's necessary if that does ever happen yes, but they are friends. If anything, their roles are to be aware of the others blindspots; bruce is too cynical, clark is too optimistic so they catch what the other misses.

As far as the movie, the point has been made and rehashed to death so I won't even go into it

And Superman is more tied to the Moses story to me. Not saying the Jesus stuff isn't there but the initial story is so similar to Moses: family sends their son to live with another family to give him a better chance at life and a chance to start over and he's raised with their values and their morals. It BECAME more similar to Jesus as more writers came on and took the reigns but Siegel and Shuster seemed to have Moses more in mind than Jesus..especially being Jewish
 
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If anything, their roles are to be aware of the others blindspots; bruce is too cynical, clark is too optimistic so they catch what the other misses.

perfectly said. i can only hope such is portrayed in the movie.

I don't know why I have this sick feeling that they're gonna get it completely wrong.
 

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OK so he killed someone in the movie universe before Batman, which one is the dark brooding character and which is the clean cut hero.

It's not about one being the clean cut hero and one being the dark brooding one breh, that's not the point of their relationship; the logic of man of steel, whether you agree with it or not, was that he did what was necessary and the only thing he could do in that moment; he had to make a choice. But he gets to learn from it and become a better hero because of it. It's great character development and the assumption is that it will be a part of the new movie
 

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That "No kill" rule that's plagues so much tv shows, comics and mangas... :wow:

If I had super powers JL would be coming to my city trying to stop me from clapping the bad guys.


Eh, that's one of those things that's kind of a necessary evil. The "no kill" rule makes it so -

1. If a show/comic/etc happens to be censored and the censors won't allow death, there's a justification for it in the story.

2. Even if they did kill the bad guys, it's not like they would stay dead. Nobody in comics aside from Uncle Ben stays dead, so it's probably best not to kill the villains in the first place since they'll just come back a couple months later.
 
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It's not about one being the clean cut hero and one being the dark brooding one breh, that's not the point of their relationship; the logic of man of steel, whether you agree with it or not, was that he did what was necessary and the only thing he could do in that moment; he had to make a choice. But he gets to learn from it and become a better hero because of it. It's great character development and the assumption is that it will be a part of the new movie


OK cool so it's 2 Batmans gotcha.
 

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OK so he killed someone in the movie universe before Batman, which one is the dark brooding character and which is the clean cut hero.
If your are going by movie universe cannon this is a totally different Batman than Nolans own. So we have no idea what this Batman has done and if he has killed anyone. Also just because he did what he had to stop Zod why would that make him brooding? Also superman was clean cut in his movie. He turned himself over to the military and worked with authorities while batman more then likely will work outside of it.
 
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