So If Superman is willing to kill, why do we need Superman vs Batman

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Tell it to these dudes tho and all character development for a series of films needs to be done in one shot
Yea, I'll just chalk it up to impatience. Also, I feel like people don't remember that Supes didn't want to kill Zod in the film. He's clearly tormented by it.
 

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superman's problems are bigger than everyone else's problems, hence why he needs to be more powerful.

what other superhero are you gonna call upon to protect us from an impending comet? or an alien invasion?

this is the guy you want torn and conflicted?

we would all be fukked then.

no one is more heroic and courageous than :cape:
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There have been so many iterations of Superman that there is no true way to get him "exactly right". There are things about his character that never really changes and there are many things that have changed, evolved, etc. over time. And then put back in. Then taken out. We are talking about hundreds of stories. Tons of writers.

People who said "hey now! MY Superman wouldn't kill!" can eat a dikk because nobody cares about YOUR Superman. The Superman I grew up on was a fukking dikkhead. Do I believe he should be written that way? Honestly, I don't care. As long as he is from Krypton and the same basic origin is kept and he wears the costume and saves people... he is Superman.
 

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right but jesus would not kill under any circumstances. he would sooner die for your sins.

if you wanna go the jesus route, you can't betray that aspect of the character.

either he's jesus or he ain't.

FWIW my ideal version of superman does not kill. but i understand that should extreme circumstances present themselves, and there was absolutely, positively no other solution...and saving the human race required it...then I imagine he would.
Superman was willing to kill doomsday in the death of superman comics I mean really at the end it looked like they both beat each other to death ( granted doomsday woke up in the reign of supermen stuff but Clark didn't know that )
 

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There have been so many iterations of Superman that there is no true way to get him "exactly right". There are things about his character that never really changes and there are many things that have changed, evolved, etc. over time. And then put back in. Then taken out. We are talking about hundreds of stories. Tons of writers.

People who said "hey now! MY Superman wouldn't kill!" can eat a dikk because nobody cares about YOUR Superman. The Superman I grew up on was a fukking dikkhead. Do I believe he should be written that way? Honestly, I don't care. As long as he is from Krypton and the same basic origin is kept and he wears the costume and saves people... he is Superman.
Fam, I've said it before and I'll say it again: the biggest detriment to comic book movies are comic book fans. A group of people that treat the source material like Gollum treats the one ring and bash any creative license taken by the movies. "Superman wouldn't do that"...nikka, Superman is a fukking fictional cartoon character, he'll do whatever the fukk the writer makes him do:dahell:

On another note, I'm not sure if cats are dense or just being disingenuous. How are they gonna fit in all the superheroes in BvsS...I don't know, the same way they're gonna fit in Iron Man, Thor, The Hulk, Captain America, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Vision, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Falcon, etc into the Avengers:snoop:
 
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Marvel got it covered.
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Fam, I've said it before and I'll say it again: the biggest detriment to comic book movies are comic book fans. A group of people that treat the source material like Gollum treats the one ring and bash any creative license taken by the movies. "Superman wouldn't do that"...nikka, Superman is a fukking fictional cartoon character, he'll do whatever the fukk the writer makes him do:dahell:

On another note, I'm not sure if cats are dense or just being disingenuous. How are they gonna fit in all the superheroes in BvsS...I don't know, the same way they're gonna fit in Iron Man, Thor, The Hulk, Captain America, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Vision, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Falcon, etc into the Avengers:snoop:


And that's poor writing, cause tell me again WHY does a Superman who is down to murder someone if it's the last resort, need some rich dude in a cape to help him out. He's not the goodie too shoes anymore, so obviously criminals know he's not fukking around. Worlds greatest detective FOH, Superman can pick out a single voice half a world away. Can see through damn near anything, hear a bomb ticking under fukking ground, that nikka don't help deciphering clues :heh:
 
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In a world where nikkas can fly, lift buildings, shape shift, run at the speed of light, control the the tides of the oceans, batman has about as good of chance of joining the justice league as me.

Which is another reason Superman and Batman shouldn't share universes.
 
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...I don't know, the same way they're gonna fit in Iron Man, Thor, The Hulk, Captain America, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Vision, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Falcon, etc into the Avengers:snoop:

:heh: Exactly right. Age of Ultron is introducing us to Quiksilver, Vision, Ultron, Scarlet Witch and maybe even Klaw all while continuing the stories of multiple other main characters and nobody is worried about it at all. Granted Marvel Studios has been on a roll lately but do we really think all of these characters will be fully developed?

With Batman vs. Superman we don't even know what role any of the characters will play. They might be quick cameos. Like I said before, nikkas gotta chill. Chris Terrio wrote Argo. That does not mean it will be good but lets stop pretending like this dude ain't got some credentials. Give him a chance. :manny:
 

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:heh: Exactly right. Age of Ultron is introducing us to Quiksilver, Vision, Ultron, Scarlet Witch and maybe even Klaw all while continuing the stories of multiple other main characters and nobody is worried about it at all. Granted Marvel Studios has been on a roll lately but do we really think all of these characters will be fully developed?

With Batman vs. Superman we don't even know what role any of the characters will play. They might be quick cameos. Like I said before, nikkas gotta chill. Chris Terrio wrote Argo. That does not mean it will be good but lets stop pretending like this dude ain't got some credentials. Give him a chance. :manny:

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In a world where nikkas can fly, lift buildings, shape shift, run at the speed of light, control the the tides of the oceans, batman has about as good of chance of joining the justice league as me.

Which is another reason Superman and Batman shouldn't share universes.
Given your criteria hawkeyes and black widows ain't out of place :mjlol:
 

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nikkas are idiots. If Superman didn't kill Zod then what is the other option? Zod is basically another version of Superman so if Supes didn't kill him, Zod would've did it. Hell Zod said he was gonna kill him anyways so :manny: what's the problem here
 
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