So I guess Mitt Romney really shoulda won
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Man the second we stop the operation in Afghanistan(i know if we leave, troops still stay for protection,etc but i mean the end of fighting) the economy will definitely speed up.
I really hope Obama decides to return the troops one year early and make it the end of 2013 instead of the end of 2014.
I mean are we really going to stay there until 2014 to get Zawahiri?
You know we will just go somewhere else and do some shyt. We will never see that military money kept in the USA. I can easily see this Libya situation turn into another US occupation.
I doubt we could get them to agree to just close some of our foreign bases.
If we were to get Zawahiri tomorrow....do you know how much more idiotic it would be to continue? After getting the #1 and #2 ?
The whole situation is just frustrating. What your talking about though is occupation. Even though I am sure other countries are annoyed by that, I don't have as much as a problem if they are just "occupied" as long as its not the same type of fighting where soldiers are getting killed everyday in a long standing war. Because I have come to realize that us being the big dogs of the world we always want to be occupied in some way.
But as i was saying about Al Qaida, the second we get Zawahiri I really hope we just get out because this is ridiculous. I wonder if Obama made the extension that long because he did not know he would get Bin Laden that soon.
But yeah man, I hate to treat soldiers as $ but just end the war bring them back to stop this madness with the debt in our economy.
NZA
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rich people dont keep most retailers alive. more money in the hands of the largest economic groups does more for the economy
NZA
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no, it's most people eating at affordable restaurants, paying a plumber to fix their toilet, and shopping at department stores 365 days a year. there arent enough rich people to sustain large economies.
it's like how the construction industry largely depends on regular folks being able to buy modest houses. when they cant buy these houses, construction firms lay their workers off. in this sense, it has almost nothing to do with the consumption of a small number of rich people.
88m3
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small number of rich people
people cant afford a plumber! people can't afford "affordable restaruants"! people cant afford to go shopping at department stores! people don't sustain the construction industry HA the last few years buddy! people don't own houes, apartment buildings etc etc etc!
@NZA what are you some type of idealist or something?!
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Brown_Pride
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you're trolling right?small number of rich people
people cant afford a plumber! people can't afford "affordable restaruants"! people cant afford to go shopping at department stores! people don't sustain the construction industry HA the last few years buddy! people don't own houes, apartment buildings etc etc etc!
@NZA what are you some type of idealist or something?!
Rich people with money in their hands do not drive an economy, they drive tax shelters...and beamers. They simply do not consume enough to sustain an economy. It's the every day purchase, the groceries for the week, the shoes for the kids, the gas for the car. It's those purchases that make our economy what it is.
God bless america
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88m3
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you're trolling right?
Rich people with money in their hands do not drive an economy, they drive tax shelters...and beamers. They simply do not consume enough to sustain an economy. It's the every day purchase, the groceries for the week, the shoes for the kids, the gas for the car. It's those purchases that make our economy what it is.
God bless america
Nah not at all bro, not trolling around here, men are talking.
For arguments sake lets call "rich people" families in the 100k plus range. No I'm not moving the goal posts. The more you earn the more you can put into the economy. Fact! We all know the rich are what drive the economy! You're right they buy the cars! They also buy the houses, they hire the builders, they are the business owners! I could go on and on. And you know it! They are what drive this economy like it or not! I know you socialists hate to admit it! And even talking about it is outrageous! They dont consume enough you say! Ha I say!
There isn't enough government welfare in the world to drive an economy.
The worst thing you can do with money is just sit on it
The rich stay rich by putting their money where it grows... which 9 times out of 10 means investing in the middle class
But as far as "stockpiling money".... everyone should be living within their means and saving up. From the individual level all the way up to the federal govt, America has a spending problem
Brown_Pride
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lol you're a got damn fool.Nah not at all bro, not trolling around here, men are talking.
For arguments sake lets call "rich people" families in the 100k plus range. No I'm not moving the goal posts. The more you earn the more you can put into the economy. Fact! We all know the rich are what drive the economy! You're right they buy the cars! They also buy the houses, they hire the builders, they are the business owners! I could go on and on. And you know it! They are what drive this economy like it or not! I know you socialists hate to admit it! And even talking about it is outrageous! They dont consume enough you say! Ha I say!
There isn't enough government welfare in the world to drive an economy.
People are just picking convenient pieces of a picture
Everyone drives the economy
Middle class drives it primarily by consumption, rich drives it by a mix of consumption and investment
You can't have a sustainable economy without both consumption and investment, so to champion one and demonize the other just shows your bias + ignorance.
Everyone drives the economy
Middle class drives it primarily by consumption, rich drives it by a mix of consumption and investment
You can't have a sustainable economy without both consumption and investment, so to champion one and demonize the other just shows your bias + ignorance.
I don't think anyone is demonizing rich people. The idea is that over the last 20 years the rich have enjoyed economic conditions set up purposely for them to prosper. They have grown more rich over that time while the middle class has grown more poor. It makes sense that the highest earners pay more taxes than those that earn less. With our current tax code this is not always the case. Mitt Romney made millions of dollars over the last ten years and has payed less than 15%(it's probably much lower) in taxes, while there is a guy out there making 150k who's paying the same percentage.
For too long the economic policies in this country have supported making the rich richer, and ignored growth of the middle class. This dynamic created a huge bubble that will burst and throw us in to full blown depression if nothing is done. There's only so far the income gap can spread before America has no middle class and no chance of economic growth.
People are demonizing the rich. You claim the rich set up the economic conditions to prosper. How'd they do that exactly? How does some mid level analyst or doctor game the system at the expense of the middle class? Being that their client base is generally the middle class (for an analyst who is most likely working for a big fund managing retirement accounts or a doctor w/typical American patients), seems goofy to me that they would sabotage or hurt their income. And barring billionaires, the folks people here consider rich don't have anywhere near the power you guys imagine them to.
Like everything reality lies in the middle. Yes vulture capitalists like Bain Capital have capitalized on shyt like outsourcing etc., but its nowhere near as simple as the rich fleecing the poor. There's the bad policy, there's the increased global competition, there's the automation, there's the aging population, the boom bust economy- all of which aren't necessarily good for the "rich". Whittling the trajectory and forces of the US economy down to rich vs poor is just dishonest and lazy.