Beal first step is lighting quick. Beal might just be as quick as Wade. Beal lacks Wade's speed but has a better jumpshot. Both are very long players who can easily draw fouls.
So experts are NOW saying that Bradley Beal will be a better D.Wade
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Beal first step is lighting quick. Beal might just be as quick as Wade. Beal lacks Wade's speed but has a better jumpshot. Both are very long players who can easily draw fouls.
Who knows. Dude is top 25 to me.
You do know it's been a top-50 team named in the NBA. While my list is slightly different, you need to address some of those players also. Saying Wade is outside of "my" top-50 isn't a slight. Basketball has been around a long time. Top-50 is a tough club to crack. I'm not prisoner of the moment.
He'll be a top-10 SG, but that doesn't automatically equate to top 50 in my book. SG has only been a vogue position relatively recently. C, PG, and PF have been more influential positions in basketball history. The reason MJ is the greatest player ever? He led the only dynasty without a dominant inside game. You'll be hard-pressed to find many champions without big-time play inside. MJ's 6 titles, 2012 Heat, and <who>?
Wade's a great player. I don't have 50 players in my top-20. It's easier to say everybody is a top-## player. I don't.
who are the 9 sg's you think are better than wade? because he's in my top 3 although i still consider top 5 to be reasonable but top 10?
Outside of Jordan and Kobe there any sg's that were as dominate on defense as they were on offense other than Wade.
I'm just telling you what happens. Yeah, the 80's had hard fouls but the defensive schemes were almost non existent. Teams were scoring in the 110-120 range on a regular basis. That would never happen in today's NBA.
Could it be because players could shoot better also? Cats routinely miss open shots today. No hand-checking and body-to-body being legal is a big difference from diving into the lane and getting two free throws.
There's a difference between shooting better and averaging 115 points a game.
Hand checking and body to body vs having a whole backroom of scouts tracking your every move for an entire season, with video, charts and graphs detailing percentages of when, where, and how you shoot every game, then detailing a plan around it. Take your pick.
no.
who are the 9 sg's you think are better than wade? because he's in my top 3 although i still consider top 5 to be reasonable but top 10?
1. Wade isn't dominant on Defense.
2. I said Wade is in my top 10, not #10 .
SGs:
GOAT status: MJ, Kobe, Oscar Robertson
Greats (no order): Drexler, Iverson, Jerry West, Gervin, Wade, Havlicek, Earl the Pearl or Walt Frazier (depends on who you consider the 2G)
I've had this conversation with NBA scouts, former/current players, etc. The physical play has a huge effect on shooting. I'd say the playoff scouting changes the dynamic, but today's NBA is much easier for scoring than the old days in the regular season. There isn't a ton of scouting followed during regular seasons. Dudes just playing around for the most part.
DoubleClutch
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Did you watch Ray Allen in his prime? Where's all this Beal hype coming from? I guess I need to watch another Wizards preseason game.
Beal isn't as good as shooter as Allen was and Ray Allen was really athletic in his Buck days
Athletically, Beal is pretty good and much better than advertised. His first step is quick but he doesn't have top line speed on one of the court to the other. He is pretty crafty and methodical.
I think Beal will be a much better and hopefully healthier Eric Gordon
Athletically, Beal is pretty good and much better than advertised. His first step is quick but he doesn't have top line speed on one of the court to the other. He is pretty crafty and methodical.
I think Beal will be a much better and hopefully healthier Eric Gordon
Another player I might compare Beal to is Mitch Richmond. They have the EXACT same shooting form. I think Beal will be better defensively than Richmond was though.
If there's one thing Wade and Beal have in common apart from size is that both of them are very good shot blockers from the Guard position
If there's one thing Wade and Beal have in common apart from size is that both of them are very good shot blockers from the Guard position
Not buying it, ask Lin
In February, he broke 25 6 times (20, 9 times) in 13 games before facing Miami when scouts claimed "the book was out on Lin". He only broke 20 twice in the next 14 games.
You're not scoring at the rate Wade does for almost a decade on a fluke, especially if you're the primary option.
Outlaw
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If Beal was as explosive as you say he'd be the #1 pick, if anything he'll have the craftyness of a brandon roy, but hes not on the same level of athlete athleticism as rookie kobe, dwade, t-mac, VC, like i said at best he'll be an eddie jones, past prime ray allen type player
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
I guess I need to watch another Wizards preseason game.
Thats why I said past prime ray allen, reading is fundamental dumbass
No, because Rose probably is more productive than Wade over the last 2yrs
Maybe you forgot, Rose was league MVP 2yrs ago. The same years you talkin like if Wade was this beast
And when they won there championships, DEFENSE wins championships. I know you heard that before. Lets act like Zo didn't have black out all year
Basically playing BETTER than he EVER did in the league (defensively)
My favorite team is in the same division, so I have to keep tabs on them.
Zo went to G-town and everybody black in the DMV got some love for G-town
I was rooting for him, loved him during his charlotte days too.
Trust me, I know wtf I'm talkin about. But like Quarterbacks, the star player gets all the praise.
Remember tho, before shaq came.. Wade did NOTHING. Once he left, Wade did nothing. Then Bron came and they still lost one year
Then Bron did his thang along with Wade/Bosh/every other decent free agent that wanted to play on the all-star team
And you want to give Wade extra credit for that?
He was being compared to Ray Allen coming out of College, so those comparisons will be repeated by the next man. That is how human beings/media works
They also said black QB's couldn't handle reading defenses/etc. Once something is said, its hard to shake it. But after actually watching him play, Yeah.. more Wade than Allen imo...
Have you been watching basketball for alltime, or for just about 10yrs?
I'm pretty sure not a single person besides Beaniemac can speak on all time
So really what the majority of you chumps are doing is putting your favorite players in the top 10, then adding the names of whoever you seen in a commercial before.
Not a single person has mentioned well known to be all time greats like say, George Iceman Gervin who CLEARLY is heads n shoulders above Wade w/out even a blink. But you wouldn't know about that. If you can't speak on shyt like that, why the fukk iz you clown ass nikkaz speaking again?
Damn, yall let some nikka named Cockmeat drop knowledge on tat azz
I guess the title going from LA to MIA had little to do with shaq then.
And by this logic you guys using, Derrick Fisher >>> D.Wade
How many titles each get this millennium again?
By you nikkaz, you mean the majority of the NBA community (fans/players over the age of wet behind the ears)
So your saying Wade is as good as Jordan/Kobe? Wade wears Jordans, stop that.
But since everybody agree's, lets take a look at 20 NBA experts opinions on this very subject...
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Wade didn't make not 7, not 8, not 9, not 10, not 11
He only went out in the finals with what many considered the most loaded team EVER (top league talent on one time wise)
Like, how do you overlook that as if it didn't happen?
Rose is more productive than Wade, really ?
Over the last 2 years:
Wade 3023 points 722 rebounds 571 assist 193 steals 150 blocks .50%
Rose 2878 points 461 rebounds 930 assist 120 steals 79 blocks .44%
Wade is just better at pretty much everything basketball related breh. He's basically a bigger stronger more efficient version more of Rose himself. Rose got him on quickness, that's it.
And lol@ Zo playing the best defense of his career at that time. You're a fukking idiot. This dude won back to back Defensive Player of the Year awards back in the day, dumbass.
And Wade did nothing before Shaq got there ? Really ? The only reason why Shaq came here is because he saw a rookie taking his team to the 2nd round. Schooling Ron Artest, that seasons defensive player of the year and dunking in Jermaine O'neal's mouth.
Shaq could've gone anywhere he wanted, he chose Wade.
Same with Lebron, he had every team on his dikk, he chose Wade. I guarantee you that if Wade goes to the Bulls or somebody, Lebron never sets a foot in Miami.
And how convenient of you to find an article written during the time Wade was missing 31 games and tanking for a high draft pick. That was a throw-away year breh. Only year Wade has ever missed the playoffs. nikka came back better than ever after that.
And lol@ one dimensional ass Gervin better than Wade. The next defensive play he makes would be his first. fukk outta here.
