So Europeans during slave trade knew Israel was in Africa

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you onto something check this out. I don't like speaking on tribal shyt but I want to illustrate something here... something my mom put me onto.


Most so called Bantu tribes in the region are monotheistic who believe in veneration of ancestors. We are told that we borrowed circumcision from the cushytes, yet some bantu tribes who might have had little to no interraction with them practice it.Even more so, other so called Niger Congo tribes practice it without any afro asiatic influence. In Primary down here, we were taught that some bantus claim to originate from the North(Misri) but further up the narrative changed.
 

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I guarantee you the moors was over here before them cacs.
The African, and Muslim, Discovery of America – Before Columbus

The only non-native people who reached the Americas before columbus were the Inuit, the vikings(who never permanently settled), and there's also some evidence that suggest polynesians may have reached the west coast of south america or at least had some contact with the people there, though this one is also largely in contention with new evidence suggesting otherwise.

All other claims are fringe and have never been taken seriously among scholars and experts in the field of pre-columbian Americas as there little to no real evidence to support it, and for more popular ones have usually had experts in the field come out and explicitly debunk it, ie white/european soltreans, black olmecs/washytaws, ming-chinese, 1149 muslims etc etc And pretty much are only touted today by members who share some kind of ethnic, racial, or religious ties to the subjects of the claim.

The truth is that the western hemisphere has been largely isolated from the eastern hemisphere aside few cases listed above before large ocean going vessels were built capable of traversing large bodies of water and storing enough supplies for the crew to survive on. And even then there would need to be some kind of motivation to make such a journey. The only other option would be to cross the bering strait(ie natives, Inuit) or island hop in the arctic(vikings) Most societies didn't fit all of those criteria. There's a reason it was the last continental mass that human beings settled on. Even australia is more accessible.

And even then the native inhabitants of the Americas were one of the most genetically homogenous populations in the world due to their pioneering population being so small, with some genetic studies suggesting that the original founding human population consisting of only about 250 members.
https://phys.org/news/2018-05-dna-sequences-people-native-american.html
 
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Oh and the kingdom of Whydah otherwise known to the English as "Juda" has nothing to do with the Israel.

- It was not born a settlement of hebrews

- It's people nor rulers were Jews or of any Abrahamic faith. They were animist who practiced a faith most likely similar to Dahomeian vodoun like most ewe peoples.

- They are not some non-existing missing link to African-Americans and ancient Israel.
 

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The only non-native people who reached the Americas before columbus were the Inuit, the vikings(who never permanently settled), and there's also some evidence that suggest polynesians may have reached the west coast of south america or at least had some contact with the people there, though this one is also largely in contention with new evidence suggesting otherwise.

All other claims are fringe and have never been taken seriously among scholars and experts in the field of pre-columbian Americas as there little to no real evidence to support it, and for more popular ones have usually had experts in the field come out and explicitly debunk it, ie white/european soltreans, black olmecs/washytaws, ming-chinese, 1149 muslims etc etc And pretty much are only touted today by members who share some kind of ethnic, racial, or religious ties to the subjects of the claim.

The truth is that the western hemisphere has been largely isolated from the eastern hemisphere aside few cases listed above before large ocean going vessels were built capable of traversing large bodies of water and storing enough supplies for the crew to survive on. And even then there would need to be some kind of motivation to make such a journey. The only other option would be ot cross the bering strait(ie natives, Inuit) or island hop in the arctic(vikings) Most societies didn't fit all of those criteria. There's a reason it was the last continental mass that human beings settled on. Even australia is more accessible.

And even then the native inhabitants of the Americas were one of the most largely genetically homogenous populations in the world due to their pioneering population being so small, with some genetic studies suggesting that the original founding human population consisting of only about 250 members.
https://phys.org/news/2018-05-dna-sequences-people-native-american.html
What's the story behind the Nino brothers why did Columbus have them pilot the first voyage?

"The four Niño brothers, Pedro Alonso, Francisco, Juan and Bartolomé were already sailors with prestige and experience in Atlantic journeys before playing a distinguished part in Columbus's first voyage to the New World."
https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Niño_brothers#cite_note-1

I know wiki ain't shyt but they have the citations.
 

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How is the Polynesian theory in contention?

This is a native American group from California. They look very Polynesian to me.
muUcem2.jpg
 

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What's the story behind the Nino brothers why did Columbus have them pilot the first voyage?

"The four Niño brothers, Pedro Alonso, Francisco, Juan and Bartolomé were already sailors with prestige and experience in Atlantic journeys before playing a distinguished part in Columbus's first voyage to the New World."
https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Niño_brothers#cite_note-1

I know wiki ain't shyt but they have the citations.

They may have been of African descent, but they were Spaniards, not from Africa.

The experience in the "atlantic" refers to their time trading off the coast of Africa in it's islands and mainland, not travelling to the Americas. If they knew Americas were there they would've never been traveling west to find second route to asia as the only way to reach it by sea would be to travel around the southern tip of South America(as the panama canal didn't exist), which would've been far too much trouble. They simply set sail thinking it would be open ocean till asia and accidently landed on an island in the caribbean and explored a few more before returning with word that they had "founded new lands".
 
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How is the Polynesian theory in contention?

This is a native American group from California. They look very Polynesian to me.
muUcem2.jpg

It's never a good idea to try use old depictions(which may or may not even be legit) of peoples to eyeball anthropology and then attempt to formulate theories on their origins based on those depictions.

Anyways the polynesian theory never rested on depictions like this in the first place. But, on the genetics of people on Easter Island and crops in South America. Newer studies suggest that the genetics of the crops to not be related.
Polynesians may not have gone grocery shopping in South America

And that the native american genetics on Easter Island may be due to Mestizo colonizers from Peru who targeted the island.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/10/did-early-easter-islanders-sail-south-america-europeans
 

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It's never a good idea to try use old depictions(which may or may not even be legit) of peoples to eyeball anthropology and then attempt to formulate theories on their origins based on those depictions.

Why is that exactly? :jbhmm:

And you won’t find anything in Columbus writings that he “accidentally” found America. That’s a myth :coffee:
 

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Black people who say the bible is the white mans book are so lost its not even funny.
Especially those who talk shyt about the bible then use the white mans science and history to disprove it,and treat white science like the bible smh.
White man science isn’t really isn’t true either.

Lots things we think were discovered by white men were discovered by black slaves In the Americas , Africans , chinese and Indians.

It was a black slave who figured orange and lemons cured scurvy.

Or how the Egyptian knew penicillin centuries before.
 

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White man science isn’t really isn’t true either.

Lots things we think were discovered by white men were discovered by black slaves In the Americas , Africans , chinese and Indians.

It was a black slave who figured orange and lemons cured scurvy.

Or how the Egyptian knew penicillin centuries before.

White science gives you things that havent been proven like photosynthesis and plants breathing.Things like "gravity" and the big bang,evolution,the moon reflecting the suns light:mjlol:.Anything thats feels like a insult to your intelligence to just believe blindly is usually white science.
 

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Why is that exactly? :jbhmm:

Because(assuming the pics even are legit), the artist interpretation of the people he's depicting is subjective and prone to much human error, especially given the technology at the time, and your interpretation of artist depiction is also highly subjective.

Clearly not something you can use to make an objective claim about a people's origins with. Just look at all of the completely different looking depictions of Saladin from around the world out there. There are some where he looks european, some where he looks middle eastern, some where he looks sub saharan african, some where he looks (east)asian. Artist during the time had a habit of depicting people in their own image or the opposite depending on if they were friend or foe.

And you won’t find anything in Columbus writings that he “accidentally” found America. That’s a myth :coffee:

Yes you can. In fact he believed he had reached the the Indian Ocean when he landed in the Caribbean according to his writing.
http://www.bringinghistoryhome.org/assets/bringinghistoryhome/columbus annotation by cath.pdf
 
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