So Em and 50 Cent met each at the Lyricist Lounge in 1997 but they dont remember....

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Classic pic! I was there that night, but definitely didn't see 50 there either. But the show was dope! This was Hip Hop's last real run of the golden era, before it ended.

I got a chance to hit a few of the shows. Pun was there, and killed it! KRS, Common and De La were there too at a few of the dates. Really dope times back then!
 

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According to Coli Em didn't pay any dues

Those Coli dudes say sh*t that they weren't even there for. Too much on here.

Em was definitely in the trenches back in the day. He was always in NYC getting busy at spots like Mecca and The Muse. He would pop up a lot on the freestyle nights and people would front on him at first, until they heard him. I think that's what drove him to keep going and getting sharper with his pen. Being slept on.
 

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According to Coli Em didn't pay any dues

I've never read this here or on SOHH honestly, but you can track Eminem's path, even if you never heard infinite the first go around. A lot of dudes lie like they have but that's a whole other discussion and not just relative to Eminem either.
 

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yall talk about Eminem's lyricism, but Wordsworth(and many others) match him. Wordsworth is probably the greatest lyricist of all time that no one knows. He flows so effortlessly making every bar count. I can't find the Words and Em cypher on youtube. Then there is that great breakdown of syllables over the Pete Rock "give it to yall" Instrumental. You can't find any of this shyt on youtube for some reason but I have copies of all this on cd. That's crazy. Also can't forget him weekly on MTV's Lyricist Lounge. Words is a lyrical beast. Promotion is everything. I don't care how ill of a rapper you are or how great your albums are, if a machine will not get behind you, it's all worthless. Let's not forget, Illmatic sold nothing in 1994 and had Steve Stoute not restructured Nas' career and had singing on his hooks by Lauryn Hill, Jojo, R Kelly, and even Nas himself, while also putting him in that pink suit, his career would have been done.
 

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According to Coli Em didn't pay any dues
We don’t like him because he’s white and couldn’t rap that much better than the other emcees at Lyricist Lounge who couldn’t get a record deal because they were told nikkas was into Cash Money and Master P now so now we have a few generations of actual black kids that think he’s one of the greatest rappers of all time and it makes me want to commit that when I don’t have my Zoloft.
 
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Classic pic! I was there that night, but definitely didn't see 50 there either. But the show was dope! This was Hip Hop's last real run of the golden era, before it ended.

I got a chance to hit a few of the shows. Pun was there, and killed it! KRS, Common and De La were there too at a few of the dates. Really dope times back then!

I performed in the Philly stop of the Lyricist Lounge Tour, but I'm pretty sure that day in Philly was either in '99 or even 2000. Mos Def was the headliner. I remember Master Fuol, Ali Vegas, Nature, Wordsworth, and a few other cats I'm drawing a blank on performing that night.


50 used to be pretty cool with Punch and Words. It's crazy how many people from that era and time in the indie/underground hip-hop scene ended up becoming megastars in the industry.
 

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i mean put it in context. when you an upcoming mc and you going around the circuit in that era you would rub shoulders with everyone that is trying to get on. that means every avenue that you had to physically be at for an opportunity. everyone else trying to make it was there. taking a pic doesn't make a meeting memorable. if they had a memorable interaction that would be something else.
 

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yall talk about Eminem's lyricism, but Wordsworth(and many others) match him. Wordsworth is probably the greatest lyricist of all time that no one knows. He flows so effortlessly making every bar count. I can't find the Words and Em cypher on youtube. Then there is that great breakdown of syllables over the Pete Rock "give it to yall" Instrumental. You can't find any of this shyt on youtube for some reason but I have copies of all this on cd. That's crazy. Also can't forget him weekly on MTV's Lyricist Lounge. Words is a lyrical beast. Promotion is everything. I don't care how ill of a rapper you are or how great your albums are, if a machine will not get behind you, it's all worthless. Let's not forget, Illmatic sold nothing in 1994 and had Steve Stoute not restructured Nas' career and had singing on his hooks by Lauryn Hill, Jojo, R Kelly, and even Nas himself, while also putting him in that pink suit, his career would have been done.

That was a great show
 

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yall talk about Eminem's lyricism, but Wordsworth(and many others) match him. Wordsworth is probably the greatest lyricist of all time that no one knows. He flows so effortlessly making every bar count. I can't find the Words and Em cypher on youtube. Then there is that great breakdown of syllables over the Pete Rock "give it to yall" Instrumental. You can't find any of this shyt on youtube for some reason but I have copies of all this on cd. That's crazy. Also can't forget him weekly on MTV's Lyricist Lounge. Words is a lyrical beast. Promotion is everything. I don't care how ill of a rapper you are or how great your albums are, if a machine will not get behind you, it's all worthless. Let's not forget, Illmatic sold nothing in 1994 and had Steve Stoute not restructured Nas' career and had singing on his hooks by Lauryn Hill, Jojo, R Kelly, and even Nas himself, while also putting him in that pink suit, his career would have been done.

Wordsworth's main problem is that he didn't put out a lot of music though. Unfortunately, he played the freestyle circuits, but not enough albums. He just wasn't visible enough. Even after Lyricists Lounge TV show, he should've put out album after album to capitalize off of that. He dropped something like 5 years later, at least that I know of. He should've matched Thirstin in output, and if not, kill them with features.
 
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