so did they ever say whats the diff between the 2 world titles ???

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:ufdup: fukk YOU for thinking the belts mean anything more than what the OWNER says.

The SPIRIT of the belt is that legacy but lineage is not that belt..the actual BELT is not that belt...the nwa broke ties with wcw years ago and the wcw belt was retired. PERIOD. The WHC lineage starts with HHH...and it is held with dolph ziggler.

The nwa title is in rob fukkin conways hands

The last wcw champion in wcw was booker t, and the last holder of the wcw belt in wwf was chris jericho.

These are facts.
Facts according to you and Vince. There are no "facts" in this fukkery. Just look at the NWA Title history, numerous champs from Flair to Douglas have held and left the NWA affiliation with the title. NWA subsequently crowned a new champ. I say that's bullshyt, just like Vince killing the WCW title is bullshyt. It's the same belt I grew up watching Flair carry. At the end of the day the shyt is fake, so that's the reality to me and I bet MOST fans.
 
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Facts according to you and Vince. There are no "facts" in this fukkery. Just look at the NWA Title history, numerous champs from Flair to Douglas have held and left the NWA affiliation with the title. NWA subsequently crowned a new champ. I say that's bullshyt, just like Vince killing the WCW title is bullshyt. It's the same belt I grew up watching Flair carry. At the end of the day the shyt is fake, so that's the reality to me and I bet MOST fans.

...actually the facts with vince's titles ARE the facts.
 

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...actually the facts with vince's titles ARE the facts.

I don't even know what that means. But assuming you're correct, that also means the WWE Champion doesn't share it's previous lineage since they got rid of the Unified Champ and just called the person holding it the WWE Champ in 02.
 

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There sre specific moments when one belt is clearly bigger than the other :ld:

August 2004 - september 2004 : WHC > WWE
October 2007 - April 2008 : WWE title > WHC
April 2009 - October 2009 : WWE title > WHC
September 2010 - November 2010 : WWE title > WHC
May 2011 - July 2011 : WHC > WWE

Outside of those eras, the belts are equal to the booking :myman:

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:ufdup: fukk YOU for thinking the belts mean anything more than what the OWNER says.

The SPIRIT of the belt is that legacy but lineage is not that belt..the actual BELT is not that belt...the nwa broke ties with wcw years ago and the wcw belt was retired. PERIOD. The WHC lineage starts with HHH...and it is held with dolph ziggler.

It'd make perfect sense but they put out a DVD in 09 the history of the whc with matches from the 1900s into 2008, lineage been filed on DVD
 

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It'd make perfect sense but they put out a DVD in 09 the history of the whc with matches from the 1900s into 2008, lineage been filed on DVD

I actually own that DVD.

They do recognize, acknowledge and even brag about the lineage, so they're definitely not ignoring it. I see Ed's point and essentially that belt seems like a WWE belt now and nothing deeper than that, but it's not as if they've erased its history.

We all know WWE recognizes history when it serves a purpose, and ignores it when it doesn't.
 

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On a sidenote the NWA belt has to be the ugliest belt that still used

nwa1main.jpg
 

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Facts according to you and Vince. There are no "facts" in this fukkery. Just look at the NWA Title history, numerous champs from Flair to Douglas have held and left the NWA affiliation with the title. NWA subsequently crowned a new champ. I say that's bullshyt, just like Vince killing the WCW title is bullshyt. It's the same belt I grew up watching Flair carry. At the end of the day the shyt is fake, so that's the reality to me and I bet MOST fans.


We know what you mean and what you mean is right from a good faith standpoint.
In a world, where things were right.
Yet, Vince preys on that thinking and just uses the cosmetics of the title.
Which are actually amalgamted and different from the original title.
To just draw in nostalgic fans using the belt's immediate visual appearance.
The whc title is nuffin more than when kanyon pulled the platinum wcw title out of the briefcase.
It has no lineage, or history technically behind it.
Just like kanyon's title.
It only means sumfin as a draw built off of nostalgia and cosmetic.
Yet, legally and lineage wise it is completely made up.
Just like kanyon's platinum briefcase title was.

You should have no issue with ed.
As he was just telling you the exact factual truth.

you are also,...not completely wrong either.
The person who is wrong is Vince.
For not finding another cosmetic look for the title.
Then preying on the wcs fanbase.
After he buried the title and promotion to appease his ego.
Instead of creating a profitable business model.
That was built from success and not just trimming the roster.



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We know what you mean and what you mean is right from a good faith standpoint.
In a world, where things were right.
Yet, Vince preys on that thinking and just uses the cosmetics of the title.
Which are actually amalgamted and different from the original title.
To just draw in nostalgic fans using the belt's immediate visual appearance.
The whc title is nuffin more than when kanyon pulled the platinum wcw title out of the briefcase.
It has no lineage, or history technically behind it.
Just like kanyon's title.
It only means sumfin as a draw built off of nostalgia and cosmetic.
Yet, legally and lineage wise it is completely made up.
Just like kanyon's platinum briefcase title was.

You should have no issue with ed.
As he was just telling you the exact factual truth.

you are also,...not completely wrong either.
The person who is wrong is Vince.
For not finding another cosmetic look for the title.
Then preying on the wcs fanbase.
After he buried the title and promotion to appease his ego.
Instead of creating a profitable business model.
That was built from success and not just trimming the roster.



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I woke up and saw I had a quote from Art Barr and was like :damn: but it turned out to be :leon:
 
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