Idk but fat Joe looks like a cartoon with that fake stacheppl really shouldn't be on sm
So Busta Rhymes & Fat Joe are hip hop culture vultures now ?
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other than his first album and a few other cuts i think joe is garbage
but it seems like a lot of old emcees i respect, respect joe. and he came up at a time where you actually had to rap. who am i to say anything
one thing i will say.. his beard is weird. his old graffiti name was joey crack, wasnt it? cos it looks like he cut a stencil and sprayed on that beard
seriously look at it
youre going to hell for these threads @BrothaZay
K.O.N.Y
Superstar
what are the cultural exchanges that led to the creation of hip hop
stop koonbuya splaining
you never had black americans try to lay claim to reggae music, even though there are more tangible influences sonically, than there are with caribbeans and latinos with hip hop
lol you reminded me of something. i was in a music chat and this fat old cac boomer insisted Paul McCartney should be credited with a hand in reggae's origin because ob-la-di ob-bla-da came out in 1968 and reggae originated "in the early sixties." I gave up arguing with him. he was fukking delusional
IllmaticDelta
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Why though?
Latinos have been involved in Hip Hop since the beginning, despite what people like Tariq claim.
Stop trying to rewrite history.
Latinos WERE NOT there in the beginning..the start of HipHop as a distinct subculture starts around 1970,
Latinos didn't exist in the culture in large numbers until around 1977-1980. The earliest Latinos in HipHop ALL attest to this fact.
They were not in HipHop like that until the Gangs faded out by the late 1970s because prior to that, it was BEEF between black and latino youth who were of the same ages as the guys that were involved in HipHop
"Latinos WERE NOT there in the beginning..the start of HipHop as a distinct subculture starts around 1970.
Latinos didn't exist in the culture in large numbers until around 1977-1980. The earliest Latinos in HipHop ALL attest to this fact."
Those two sentences COMPLETELY ABSOLUTELY contradict each other.
That is all I will say about that.
Latinos didn't exist in the culture in large numbers until around 1977-1980. The earliest Latinos in HipHop ALL attest to this fact."
Those two sentences COMPLETELY ABSOLUTELY contradict each other.
That is all I will say about that.
IN person, these are Twitter echo chamber talking points
IllmaticDelta
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No they don't: One "latino" in a room with 99 other "black" people doesn't equate to "Latinos were there from the start as founders of the culture". This why I worded what I said in that fashion
This video sums it up
BIG never ran around insulting Black Americans and claiming Hip-Hop as Jamaican.I'm not here for the Busta disrespect at all, fukk all that
I guess Big a vulture too then, huh?Ridiculous.
Your PERSONAL BIASED estimation is that there was "one"
Joe is a light skin rican
There are many ricans TEN TIMES darker than you in the city
Probably even on the coli right now
And if they born here, you would not know they "hispanic" unless you knew them personally
So if Ricans were there, THEY WERE THERE
Whether it is by your estimation one or ten
THEY WERE THERE
So please do not let me see you pushing that "they were not there" again.
Tell your students on the coli also
IllmaticDelta
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They weren't there and they didn't pioneer any of the 4 elements. The facts don't lie!
Now it was not "one"?
There was absolutely none?
As I said, a dark skin rican would be IMPOSSIBLE to tell from a blk american
If you do not know them personally
I speak from growing up in ny with a whole lot of hispanics
Many completely unable to speak spanish
Many do not listen to any spanish music
Many darker than you
Many more into the ART of hip hop than you
Point?
Unless you know a person personally, it is impossible to tell a blk american from a rican
Unless it is a fat joe green eyed type of rican
And still a light skin rican grows up in the same projects and go to the same schools
There was absolutely none?
As I said, a dark skin rican would be IMPOSSIBLE to tell from a blk american
If you do not know them personally
I speak from growing up in ny with a whole lot of hispanics
Many completely unable to speak spanish
Many do not listen to any spanish music
Many darker than you
Many more into the ART of hip hop than you
Point?
Unless you know a person personally, it is impossible to tell a blk american from a rican
Unless it is a fat joe green eyed type of rican
And still a light skin rican grows up in the same projects and go to the same schools
I googled "when did puerto ricans migrate to new york"
"19th century
The first group of Puerto Ricans immigrated to New York City in the mid-19th century when Puerto Rico was a Spanish colony and its people Spanish subjects. The following wave of Puerto Ricans to move to New York City did so after the Spanish–American War in 1898."
Puerto Ricans in New York City - Wikipedia.
That is the wikipedia
Do you want to rethink you stance?
"19th century
The first group of Puerto Ricans immigrated to New York City in the mid-19th century when Puerto Rico was a Spanish colony and its people Spanish subjects. The following wave of Puerto Ricans to move to New York City did so after the Spanish–American War in 1898."
Puerto Ricans in New York City - Wikipedia.
That is the wikipedia
Do you want to rethink you stance?