So brehs who was the first RnB thug?
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I bet you like them type of men
Hell naw, the way he shytted on his son's mother, I truly thought '...this nikka talks like a pimp...'
I woulda sliced his balls off in his sleep if he talked about me or to me like that.
WICKED WILSON PICKETT IS THE THUG OF ALL THUGS IN MUSIC!
This press release is from one of TWO SEPERATE INCIDENTS in which WILSON PICKETT SHOT AT THE ISLEY BROTHERS
WHILE ON TOUR WITH THEM!!
The second SHOOTING resulted in one of the brothers LOSING AN EYE!
The ISLEY BROS dropped CHARGES in both incidents
Wilson Pickett sounds like the Suge Knight of the 70s. I've heard of him; but not his music. I remember when he passed I joked wondering if my auntie was sad (she cried when every celebrity passed like she knew em...) But reading this....
DJ Mart-Kos
All Star
But when y'all talk about R&B-Thugs y'all basically mean the singers that look and act like rappers. Than Bobby Brown was the first probably.
B'brown
nikkas itt. The answer is James Brown. Homie was convicted of robbery at 16, did 3 years at ydc. Got paroled. 
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Kellz birthed these dudes, yea there were a lot of others who were "rough" for r&b - bobby, jodeci, tq, jaheim, Nate dogg 
- but modern day, these cats ran with kellz tp2, best of both worlds, double up persona and just went too far. They all clearly mimic and cite him (and jodeci) as their primary influence.
Edit: two questions going on here..,who was the first, and who opened the floodgates...kellz is the latter, the first? I'm sure you have to go back to some roaring 20's/Harlem Renaissance jazz nikkas
- but modern day, these cats ran with kellz tp2, best of both worlds, double up persona and just went too far. They all clearly mimic and cite him (and jodeci) as their primary influence.Edit: two questions going on here..,who was the first, and who opened the floodgates...kellz is the latter, the first? I'm sure you have to go back to some roaring 20's/Harlem Renaissance jazz nikkas
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Rick James was a treal Cali nikka
He was really runnin in them skreets cuh
He was really runnin in them skreets cuh
rick james was from buffalo, new york
although he did hang out in them cali and toronto, canada streets
Arihi
Mare Liberum
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You started to see the transition in the late 80's/early 90's with cats like Bobby Brown, Jodeci etc.
It's bigger than just perception tho. As hip-hop started to grow in the biz and mainstream it intertwined with R&B as far as "urban markets", hence all the mix of hip-hop and r&b especially in the 90's, to the point hip-hop outgrew r&b as far as mainstream dominence that r&b basically became hip-hop. But it started in the late 80's/early 90's, and fully blew in the 90's & then became what it became since..and i dont like it, honestly.
As far as now (Chris Brown, Trey Songz etc), they aint doing nothin new. But they basically have the rap personas but only sing - ie. Jodeci, esp since hip-hop grew. Even in marketing its the same.
It's bigger than just perception tho. As hip-hop started to grow in the biz and mainstream it intertwined with R&B as far as "urban markets", hence all the mix of hip-hop and r&b especially in the 90's, to the point hip-hop outgrew r&b as far as mainstream dominence that r&b basically became hip-hop. But it started in the late 80's/early 90's, and fully blew in the 90's & then became what it became since..and i dont like it, honestly.
As far as now (Chris Brown, Trey Songz etc), they aint doing nothin new. But they basically have the rap personas but only sing - ie. Jodeci, esp since hip-hop grew. Even in marketing its the same.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Because of the title of this thread I just had to.
Straight thug comedy...@2:33
Straight thug comedy...@2:33