So Blade 4 May Be A Go Afterall...

[nieman]

no

i believe they got the rights back last year

Oh okay, and I know Marvel did War Zone but not Disney Marvel.

 

[KalKal]

Sticky Blade wasn't that bad. I actually liked it adding to the vamp mythos.

Also, Bokeem Woodbine as the evil vampire that Blade turned when he was a teenager was pretty good. He probably would have been a better Blade.

 

[FaTaL]

Ain't Wesley Snipes though? Is David S. Goyer gonna be on board?

i hope he isnt, hes the one that destroyed blade 3 with his crappy directing and genius idea to kill of blade

 

[MartyMcFly]

i hope he isnt, hes the one that destroyed blade 3 with his crappy directing and genius idea to kill of blade

Well of course he wouldn't be now seeing as how he's entrenched with DC and their adaptations.

 

[Achille]

Oh okay, and I know Marvel did War Zone but not Disney Marvel.

Marvel Studios did not do Punisher War Zone that was under Lions Gate. The rights have reverted back to Marvel so if they want to do something they could.

 

[nieman]

Marvel Studios did not do Punisher War Zone that was under Lions Gate. The rights have reverted back to Marvel so if they want to do something they could.

Naw, Marvel Studios did do War Zone. They created that Knights imprint strictly for it. This was before they had Disney as a distributor, so it was only distributed by Lionsgate, but it definitely belongs to Marvel.

 

[Monoblock]

Not sure how many of you already read this but I would've paid money to be on the set of Blade 3 despite it being a horrible peice of shyt.

Wesley Snipes was a psycho.

One person who was there for nearly every dark second was actor, writer, and stand-up comedian Patton Oswalt. In a recent career-spanning interview with the A.V. Club, Oswalt, who had a small supporting role as a tech geek supplying Blade with some killer weaponry that barely gets used, talked extensively and candidly about the problems that plagued the movie’s production from the very beginning. Not surprisingly, executives at New Line Cinema took issue with the tone Goyer wanted to establish for Blade: Trinity:

There’s a scene where Blade goes in and confronts this guy for harvesting humans. That scene was supposed to be the whole basis of the film. Blade is fighting for the last shred of humanity. But they thought that it was just so fukking grim, so they decided to just have Blade fighting Dracula. It was just one of those; it was a very troubled production.

Oswalt learned soon after joining the production that due to his unorthodox acting methods the star playing the movie’s titular hero was less than approachable when the cameras weren’t rolling:

When I met him I was like, “Hi!” And he was like, “I’m Blade.” And also, Natasha Lyonne was on that set, and she was going through some kind of mental breakdown. Wesley is all boundaries, and she has no boundaries. She played a blind computer expert. So the first scene they had together, she put her hand right on his face, and he just recoiled. It was awesome.

According to Oswalt, Snipes dealt with his increasing lack of interest in the movie by turning to copious amounts of marijuana and sometimes his own insecurity would lead to tense showdowns with the besieged Goyer:

Wesley [Snipes] was just fukking crazy in a hilarious way. He wouldn’t come out of his trailer, and he would smoke weed all day. Which is fine with me, because I had all these DVDs that I wanted to catch up on. We were in Vancouver, and it was always raining. I kept the door to my trailer open to smell the evening rain while I was watching a movie. Then I remember one day on the set—they let everyone pick their own clothes—there was one black actor who was also kind of a club kid. And he wore this shirt with the word “Garbage” on it in big stylish letters. It was his shirt. And Wesley came down to the set, which he only did for close-ups. Everything else was done by his stand-in. I only did one scene with him. But he comes on and goes, “There’s only one other black guy in the movie, and you make him wear a shirt that says ‘Garbage?’ You racist motherfukker!” And he tried to strangle the director, David Goyer.

The slow deterioration of Snipes and Goyer’s professional relationship ultimately led to the director taking matters into his hands to deal with his temperamental lead actor in ways both humorous and dead serious, much like the tone of the Blade series:

So we went out that night to some strip club, and we were all drinking. And there were a bunch of bikers there, so David says to them, “I’ll pay for all your drinks if you show up to set tomorrow and pretend to be my security.” Wesley freaked out and went back to his trailer. [Laughs.] And the next day, Wesley sat down with David and was like, “I think you need to quit. You’re detrimental to this movie.” And David was like, “Why don’t you quit? We’ve got all your close-ups, and we could shoot the rest with your stand-in.” And that freaked Wesley out so much that, for the rest of the production, he would only communicate with the director through Post-it notes. And he would sign each Post-it note “From Blade.”

One of the problems Snipes had with the movie that he was not shy about voicing was the shifting of the narrative focus from Blade’s battle against the vampire hordes and their chosen leader Dracula (played by thick-necked Australian actor Dominic Purcell) to setting up a spin-off franchise based around the Nightstalkers, younger vampire slayers played by Ryan Reynolds and Jessica Biel who ended up taking away a chunk of Snipes’ screen time. As a result, the action hero would only show up for filming when absolutely necessary. Oswalt and the other actors found humorous ways to liven up the dour proceedings:

A lot of the lines that Ryan Reynolds has were just a result of Wesley not being there. We would all just think of things for him to say and then cut to Wesley’s face not doing anything because that’s all we could get from him. It was kind of funny. We were like, “What are the worst jokes and puns that we can say to this guy?” And then it would just be his face going, “Mmm.” “Smiles are contagious.” It’s so, so dumb. [Laughs.] That was an example of a very troubled shoot that we made fun. You have to find a way to make it fun.

 

[Achille]

Not sure how many of you already read this but I would've paid money to be on the set of Blade 3 despite it being a horrible peice of shyt.

Wesley Snipes was a psycho.

If you remember at the time it was off of Snipes name what brought people to see the first Blade movie, not too many people knew who Blade was from the comic books. It was Snipes who gave Blade his Bladeness (The Look), designing the weapons, and bring in his fight/stunt team for great action scenes. As well as putting the directors and writers in check stating Blade wouldn't do certain things that was in the script. In the first Blade script Blade was supposed to cry when he see's his mom. In Blade II it was written in the script that Blade kill the vampire embryos in the test tube beakers. Snipes said that's something Blade would not do, so they showed Whistler doing it. So Snipes contributions now get overlooked and get overshadowed.

Snipes a producer of the films was not allowed the same creative input he had during Blade 1 & 2 as it shows. Wesley is a method actor. Once tension arouse, suddenly Wesley was "difficult" to work with, even though he was method acting in the first two films. It wasn't a problem because both those movies were good.

The original script theme he signed on for was changed behind his back. He felt he was being used as the fall guy to start a Nightstalkers spin off franchise (In which he was). You have Goyer and Ryan Reynolds changing the script on the fly thinking they are making it more funny but making it even more corny. The original story was supposed to take place years later after Blade 2, with the humans already being enslaved by the vampires. No Dracula. It was in their best interest to listen to Wesley because the Nightstalker movie got scrapped and the Blade tv show flopped without him.

Snipes had become friends with Goyer and starred in his film Zig Zag because he believed they had a mutual understanding about what they wanted to do for the next Blade film. The studio didn't want Goyer to direct Blade Trinity because he did not have directing experience at the time. Wesley helped get Zig Zag off the ground to help Goyer prove to the studio that he could handle himself in the director's chair. When Blade Trinity wasn't going as planned, Wesley felt betrayed.

If you listen to the audio commentaries on Blade 1 & 2 its like him and Goyer are the best of friends. Goyer has nothing but positive words to say. Then play Trinity's... and it's like Goyer is talking about a totally different person. Always downing Wesley, pointing out every flaw, and every shot where "that's not Wesley that's his stunt double". 8 year friendship out the window.
I used to post in the BladeTrinity.com forums before the movie was released and Snipes would chime in here and there and give his side of story. Since Goyer/NewLine and crew got the media on lock on the situation.

During open question, Wesley warned fans that he would not be doing any interviews to promote the film. (That's when we knew things were really getting bad). He had said something like "I promote movies that I'm in, and unfortunately I'm not in Blade Trinity". He pulled out of all public appearances, comic conventions, and promotions. By watching the film it's almost like Blade is a secondary character.

The scene where Wesley talks down on the Nightstalkers calling them "rookies", is actually off script and how he really felt about the film. He basically badmouthed them in that scene and returned back to his trailer, refusing to do a retake of the actual lines. The scene where Blade neglects to unchain Hannibal King, and heads directly after Dracula is also off script. The scene where Wesley goes back for his sword and says "forgot my sword" is also off script. Yet these are some of the best scenes in the film. Wesley obviously knew how to play the character, yet everyone continued to ignore his input and contributions that worked previously in the first 2 films that were successful.

I'm not defending all Wesley's behavior or how he dealt with the situation. I just wanted to explain some of the reasons behind it. These are just conversations that Wesley had with the fans. His side of the story. Goyer gets all the praises due to his career has exceled doing films like The Dark Knight Trilogy and Man of Steel etc. While Snipes career was on the landlside being blackballed after Trinity with only showing up on DTV/DVD and had tax issues.

 

[Brandeezy]

Disney isn't making R rated movies so I doubt this is happening

 

[Monoblock]

If you remember at the time it was off of Snipes name what brought people to see the first Blade movie, not too many people knew who Blade was from the comic books. It was Snipes who gave Blade his Bladeness (The Look), designing the weapons, and bring in his fight/stunt team for great action scenes. As well as putting the directors and writers in check stating Blade wouldn't do certain things that was in the script. In the first Blade script Blade was supposed to cry when he see's his mom. In Blade II it was written in the script that Blade kill the vampire embryos in the test tube beakers. Snipes said that's something Blade would not do, so they showed Whistler doing it. So Snipes contributions now get overlooked and get overshadowed.

Snipes a producer of the films was not allowed the same creative input he had during Blade 1 & 2 as it shows. Wesley is a method actor. Once tension arouse, suddenly Wesley was "difficult" to work with, even though he was method acting in the first two films. It wasn't a problem because both those movies were good.

The original script theme he signed on for was changed behind his back. He felt he was being used as the fall guy to start a Nightstalkers spin off franchise (In which he was). You have Goyer and Ryan Reynolds changing the script on the fly thinking they are making it more funny but making it even more corny. The original story was supposed to take place years later after Blade 2, with the humans already being enslaved by the vampires. No Dracula. It was in their best interest to listen to Wesley because the Nightstalker movie got scrapped and the Blade tv show flopped without him.

Snipes had become friends with Goyer and starred in his film Zig Zag because he believed they had a mutual understanding about what they wanted to do for the next Blade film. The studio didn't want Goyer to direct Blade Trinity because he did not have directing experience at the time. Wesley helped get Zig Zag off the ground to help Goyer prove to the studio that he could handle himself in the director's chair. When Blade Trinity wasn't going as planned, Wesley felt betrayed.

If you listen to the audio commentaries on Blade 1 & 2 its like him and Goyer are the best of friends. Goyer has nothing but positive words to say. Then play Trinity's... and it's like Goyer is talking about a totally different person. Always downing Wesley, pointing out every flaw, and every shot where "that's not Wesley that's his stunt double". 8 year friendship out the window.
I used to post in the BladeTrinity.com forums before the movie was released and Snipes would chime in here and there and give his side of story. Since Goyer/NewLine and crew got the media on lock on the situation.

During open question, Wesley warned fans that he would not be doing any interviews to promote the film. (That's when we knew things were really getting bad). He had said something like "I promote movies that I'm in, and unfortunately I'm not in Blade Trinity". He pulled out of all public appearances, comic conventions, and promotions. By watching the film it's almost like Blade is a secondary character.

The scene where Wesley talks down on the Nightstalkers calling them "rookies", is actually off script and how he really felt about the film. He basically badmouthed them in that scene and returned back to his trailer, refusing to do a retake of the actual lines. The scene where Blade neglects to unchain Hannibal King, and heads directly after Dracula is also off script. The scene where Wesley goes back for his sword and says "forgot my sword" is also off script. Yet these are some of the best scenes in the film. Wesley obviously knew how to play the character, yet everyone continued to ignore his input and contributions that worked previously in the first 2 films that were successful.

I'm not defending all Wesley's behavior or how he dealt with the situation. I just wanted to explain some of the reasons behind it. These are just conversations that Wesley had with the fans. His side of the story. Goyer gets all the praises due to his career has exceled doing films like The Dark Knight Trilogy and Man of Steel etc. While Snipes career was on the landlside being blackballed after Trinity with only showing up on DTV/DVD and had tax issues.

Damn see now I feel like shyt. They tried to black list the man and I believed it. I dont blame him for purposely trying to sink Blade 3.

 

[Roman Brady]

If you remember at the time it was off of Snipes name what brought people to see the first Blade movie, not too many people knew who Blade was from the comic books. It was Snipes who gave Blade his Bladeness (The Look), designing the weapons, and bring in his fight/stunt team for great action scenes. As well as putting the directors and writers in check stating Blade wouldn't do certain things that was in the script. In the first Blade script Blade was supposed to cry when he see's his mom. In Blade II it was written in the script that Blade kill the vampire embryos in the test tube beakers. Snipes said that's something Blade would not do, so they showed Whistler doing it. So Snipes contributions now get overlooked and get overshadowed.

Snipes a producer of the films was not allowed the same creative input he had during Blade 1 & 2 as it shows. Wesley is a method actor. Once tension arouse, suddenly Wesley was "difficult" to work with, even though he was method acting in the first two films. It wasn't a problem because both those movies were good.

The original script theme he signed on for was changed behind his back. He felt he was being used as the fall guy to start a Nightstalkers spin off franchise (In which he was). You have Goyer and Ryan Reynolds changing the script on the fly thinking they are making it more funny but making it even more corny. The original story was supposed to take place years later after Blade 2, with the humans already being enslaved by the vampires. No Dracula. It was in their best interest to listen to Wesley because the Nightstalker movie got scrapped and the Blade tv show flopped without him.

Snipes had become friends with Goyer and starred in his film Zig Zag because he believed they had a mutual understanding about what they wanted to do for the next Blade film. The studio didn't want Goyer to direct Blade Trinity because he did not have directing experience at the time. Wesley helped get Zig Zag off the ground to help Goyer prove to the studio that he could handle himself in the director's chair. When Blade Trinity wasn't going as planned, Wesley felt betrayed.

If you listen to the audio commentaries on Blade 1 & 2 its like him and Goyer are the best of friends. Goyer has nothing but positive words to say. Then play Trinity's... and it's like Goyer is talking about a totally different person. Always downing Wesley, pointing out every flaw, and every shot where "that's not Wesley that's his stunt double". 8 year friendship out the window.
I used to post in the BladeTrinity.com forums before the movie was released and Snipes would chime in here and there and give his side of story. Since Goyer/NewLine and crew got the media on lock on the situation.

During open question, Wesley warned fans that he would not be doing any interviews to promote the film. (That's when we knew things were really getting bad). He had said something like "I promote movies that I'm in, and unfortunately I'm not in Blade Trinity". He pulled out of all public appearances, comic conventions, and promotions. By watching the film it's almost like Blade is a secondary character.

The scene where Wesley talks down on the Nightstalkers calling them "rookies", is actually off script and how he really felt about the film. He basically badmouthed them in that scene and returned back to his trailer, refusing to do a retake of the actual lines. The scene where Blade neglects to unchain Hannibal King, and heads directly after Dracula is also off script. The scene where Wesley goes back for his sword and says "forgot my sword" is also off script. Yet these are some of the best scenes in the film. Wesley obviously knew how to play the character, yet everyone continued to ignore his input and contributions that worked previously in the first 2 films that were successful.

I'm not defending all Wesley's behavior or how he dealt with the situation. I just wanted to explain some of the reasons behind it. These are just conversations that Wesley had with the fans. His side of the story. Goyer gets all the praises due to his career has exceled doing films like The Dark Knight Trilogy and Man of Steel etc. While Snipes career was on the landlside being blackballed after Trinity with only showing up on DTV/DVD and had tax issues.

they could have used his stunt double and dubbed something in wesley's voice if that were true

 

[BillBanneker]

If you remember at the time it was off of Snipes name what brought people to see the first Blade movie, not too many people knew who Blade was from the comic books. It was Snipes who gave Blade his Bladeness (The Look), designing the weapons, and bring in his fight/stunt team for great action scenes. As well as putting the directors and writers in check stating Blade wouldn't do certain things that was in the script. In the first Blade script Blade was supposed to cry when he see's his mom. In Blade II it was written in the script that Blade kill the vampire embryos in the test tube beakers. Snipes said that's something Blade would not do, so they showed Whistler doing it. So Snipes contributions now get overlooked and get overshadowed.

Snipes a producer of the films was not allowed the same creative input he had during Blade 1 & 2 as it shows. Wesley is a method actor. Once tension arouse, suddenly Wesley was "difficult" to work with, even though he was method acting in the first two films. It wasn't a problem because both those movies were good.

The original script theme he signed on for was changed behind his back. He felt he was being used as the fall guy to start a Nightstalkers spin off franchise (In which he was). You have Goyer and Ryan Reynolds changing the script on the fly thinking they are making it more funny but making it even more corny. The original story was supposed to take place years later after Blade 2, with the humans already being enslaved by the vampires. No Dracula. It was in their best interest to listen to Wesley because the Nightstalker movie got scrapped and the Blade tv show flopped without him.

Snipes had become friends with Goyer and starred in his film Zig Zag because he believed they had a mutual understanding about what they wanted to do for the next Blade film. The studio didn't want Goyer to direct Blade Trinity because he did not have directing experience at the time. Wesley helped get Zig Zag off the ground to help Goyer prove to the studio that he could handle himself in the director's chair. When Blade Trinity wasn't going as planned, Wesley felt betrayed.

If you listen to the audio commentaries on Blade 1 & 2 its like him and Goyer are the best of friends. Goyer has nothing but positive words to say. Then play Trinity's... and it's like Goyer is talking about a totally different person. Always downing Wesley, pointing out every flaw, and every shot where "that's not Wesley that's his stunt double". 8 year friendship out the window.
I used to post in the BladeTrinity.com forums before the movie was released and Snipes would chime in here and there and give his side of story. Since Goyer/NewLine and crew got the media on lock on the situation.

During open question, Wesley warned fans that he would not be doing any interviews to promote the film. (That's when we knew things were really getting bad). He had said something like "I promote movies that I'm in, and unfortunately I'm not in Blade Trinity". He pulled out of all public appearances, comic conventions, and promotions. By watching the film it's almost like Blade is a secondary character.

The scene where Wesley talks down on the Nightstalkers calling them "rookies", is actually off script and how he really felt about the film. He basically badmouthed them in that scene and returned back to his trailer, refusing to do a retake of the actual lines. The scene where Blade neglects to unchain Hannibal King, and heads directly after Dracula is also off script. The scene where Wesley goes back for his sword and says "forgot my sword" is also off script. Yet these are some of the best scenes in the film. Wesley obviously knew how to play the character, yet everyone continued to ignore his input and contributions that worked previously in the first 2 films that were successful.

I'm not defending all Wesley's behavior or how he dealt with the situation. I just wanted to explain some of the reasons behind it. These are just conversations that Wesley had with the fans. His side of the story. Goyer gets all the praises due to his career has exceled doing films like The Dark Knight Trilogy and Man of Steel etc. While Snipes career was on the landlside being blackballed after Trinity with only showing up on DTV/DVD and had tax issues.

Wow, that's screwed up if true.

 

[Achille]

they could have used his stunt double and dubbed something in wesley's voice if that were true

The stunt double is not Snipes and he can't do everything that Snipes did. His own stunt doubles will tell you that. Check the behind footage for the Blade Movies and listen to the commentaries. Snipes is more then just the actor he put his all in the first two movies which essentially got him hurt in Blade 2 numerous times. Getting a meniscus tear in his knee and Snipes was cool with it because everyone was on the same page with the first two movies. That being said there were some scenes in the movie which was the stunt double for Blade Tragedy. If you watch the unrated version of it. Blade/Snipes was supposed to open his eyes on the operating room table but he didn't and they had to CGI his eyes open. Then cut away with the stunt double attacking the doctors.

 

[Roman Brady]

The stunt double is not Snipes and he can't do everything that Snipes did. His own stunt doubles will tell you that. Check the behind footage for the Blade Movies and listen to the commentaries. Snipes is more then just the actor he put his all in the first two movies which essentially got him hurt in Blade 2 numerous times. Getting a meniscus tear in his knee and Snipes was cool with it because everyone was on the same page with the first two movies. That being said there were some scenes in the movie which was the stunt double for Blade Tragedy. If you watch the unrated version of it. Blade/Snipes was supposed to open his eyes on the operating room table but he didn't and they had to CGI his eyes open. Then cut away with the stunt double attacking the doctors.

you say the part where he didnt unchain hannibal/went back for his sword and uttered "forgot my sword" were off scipt, I am saying if goyer and co didnt want it in the final edit it wouldnt have been for reasons I stated

 

[Achille]

you say the part where he didnt unchain hannibal/went back for his sword and uttered "forgot my sword" were off scipt, I am saying if goyer and co didnt want it in the final edit it wouldnt have been for reasons I stated

That's true Goyer could of cut it out but he realized Snipes was right when it comes down to them scenes. Anyway things were just bad all around for Blade Tragedy, Snipes would normally be included during the editing process for these films but he wasn't included on Blade Tragedy.

Wow, that's screwed up if true.

It's definitely true Goyer/New Line tried to screw him and they lost focus who the main character was by trying to appeal to the MTV crowd. Once the film flopped then they would blame Snipes stating he was difficult to work with. All along he's been doing the same stuff since the first Blade movie but it wasn't a problem because those movies were successful. So you didn't hear anything about it.