So are the Miami Dolphins kinda done with Tua on the low??

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Consistency is key. I can name many unremarkable QBs who have done that..Mac Jones has done it, Ryan Fitzpatrick has, Colt McCoy has, Kelly Holcomb has, AJ Feeley has, Rex Grossman has, Tommy Maddox has. And since when has 20 pts been a benchmark for offensive excellence? Especially in this era where points are more abundant. Anthony Wright had some high scoring outings,.once upon a time. I remember Bruce Gradkowski having some big scoring games for Oakland. Fields is not good, at all.
Mac jones didn't do that at all this year. Hence him getting replaced

Fields did it at a higher rate and has the physical talent advantage over all those guys

I'm not saying he is great but this is why people think he has upside on a team with a better roster
 

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Mac jones didn't do that at all this year. Hence him getting replaced

Fields did it at a higher rate and has the physical talent advantage over all those guys

I'm not saying he is great but this is why people think he has upside on a team with a better roster
Bro, you know i was referring to rookie Mac. Physical talent without fundamentals, is almost useless. Is Pittsburgh really even more talented than Chicago, offensively?
 

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Kurt Warner has a breakdown of Miami's offense. Didn't like their play design very much from what I remember. Said plenty of times they're making the QB's job more difficult like how some of the routes were dragging defenders right into positions to obstruct passes.

If they don't resolve that then it really doesn't matter who throws for them imo.


I honestly think tua holds them back, you could see how the offense stalled in the playoffs game because of him, you could also see some bad plays

I think it’s more tua than the offense
Justin Fields doesn't have the accuracy to consistently win football games at the NFL level.

He either needs to embrace the fact that he's a running QB and whatever team he's on has to catch lightning in a bottle, or......there is nothing else. That's his only path to maybe being a playoff contender.

He's one of those guys who is athletically gifted, but doesn't appear to be able to make the proper reads or manipulate defenses. There's only so much you can do with a guy like that. How much can you simplify the playbook? He's not Cam Newton and even he got exposed eventually.

I think JF holds the ball too long, and is sometimes too indecisive but it’s a lot of good there too
 

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Bro, you know i was referring to rookie Mac. Physical talent without fundamentals, is almost useless. Is Pittsburgh really even more talented than Chicago, offensively?

No, but way more stable of a franchise than us, probably teach the man more than we will, but it’s over we got cw and we shall see what he does I’m not holding my breath
 

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I honestly think tua holds them back, you could see how the offense stalled in the playoffs game because of him, you could also see some bad plays

I think it’s more tua than the offense
Got to remember how injured their offensive line was too though. The last 5 weeks of their season was basically their 2nd unit and players who were in and out of the season. They have zero depth there. When you're a pocket passer like Tua and you can't run the ball, that's basically your offense.

These are their main starters:
LT Terron Armstead
LG Isaiah Wynn
C Connor Williams
RG Robert Hunt
RT Austin Jackson

Here is what their injury report was like:

Your main center and left guard gone is pressure up the middle all day, the worst type of pressure for most pocket passers. Not a single starter on the OL played 1000 snaps, nine different OL players played nearly 400. They were basically rotating everyone the entire season. 2023's most injured OL in the NFL.

Their biggest need for the draft is offensive line and at least this may be one of the best drafts of all-time to fix that. If I were the Dolphins I'd 100% shell out for OL as much as I can in the first two rounds. Take 1-3 more shots with Tua and move on afterwards if nothing's happening I think is more than fair given he's got them to the postseason twice in four years.
 
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Got to remember how injured their offensive line was too though. The last 5 weeks of their season was basically their 2nd unit and players who were in and out of the season. They have zero depth there. When you're a pocket passer like Tua and you can't run the ball, that's basically your offense.

These are their main starters:
LT Terron Armstead
LG Isaiah Wynn
C Connor Williams
RG Robert Hunt
RT Austin Jackson

Here is what their injury report was like:

Your main center and left guard gone is pressure up the middle all day, the worst type of pressure for most pocket passers. Not a single starter on the OL played 1000 snaps, nine different OL players played nearly 400. They were basically rotating everyone the entire season. 2023's most injured OL in the NFL.

Their biggest need for the draft is offensive line and at least this may be one of the best drafts of all-time to fix that. If I were the Dolphins I'd 100% shell out for OL as much as I can in the first two rounds. Take 1-3 more shots with Tua and move on afterwards if nothing's happening I think is more than fair given he's got them to the postseason twice in four years.


Yeah but nfl stand for not for long so they may not have time, but it seems the dolphins ain’t moving on just yet
 

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Justin Fields doesn't have the accuracy to consistently win football games at the NFL level.

He either needs to embrace the fact that he's a running QB and whatever team he's on has to catch lightning in a bottle, or......there is nothing else. That's his only path to maybe being a playoff contender.

He's one of those guys who is athletically gifted, but doesn't appear to be able to make the proper reads or manipulate defenses. There's only so much you can do with a guy like that. How much can you simplify the playbook? He's not Cam Newton and even he got exposed eventually.

Fields doesn't have nearly enough experience yet to dismiss him like that. He's practically a rookie on terms of actual game experience.

For comparison, Bo Nix is coming into the draft with 61 career starts and he turned 24 two months ago. Fields is just 11 months older than Nix and has just 1 more career start than him (college + NFL combined). Penix is just a year younger than Fields too. Jordan Love is 5 months older than Fields and only had his breakout season last year.

Let Fields learn from Russell Wilson and the Pitt staff for a year, then give him another season to put it into practice, before you judge him.
 

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Fields doesn't have nearly enough experience yet to dismiss him like that. He's practically a rookie on terms of actual game experience.

For comparison, Bo Nix is coming into the draft with 61 career starts and he turned 24 two months ago. Fields is just 11 months older than Nix and has just 1 more career start than him (college + NFL combined). Penix is just a year younger than Fields too. Jordan Love is 5 months older than Fields and only had his breakout season last year.

Let Fields learn from Russell Wilson and the Pitt staff for a year, then give him another season to put it into practice, before you judge him.
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That was his first year as a starter. What u mean only had his breakout year last year :dead:


Fields is far from being a rookie. He has had 3 years of playing as a starter.

Im legit gonna get a hold of scientists to dissect this love fest people have for Fields.
 

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Yeah but nfl stand for not for long so they may not have time, but it seems the dolphins ain’t moving on just yet
Yeah the way I see it is they should straight up shell out right now for OL and try to do something the next 1-3 years.

If it doesn't work out you get your next QB who'll have some great, experienced OL protecting them.
 
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