So Alex Jones thinks the goverment staged the Colorado shooting?

[Mook]

probably was, think about it.

Batman is a symbol in real life. Why would the government want us to have this beacon of truth and justice?

 

[newworldafro]

please point to a single moment in time where the US was a haven of freedom & liberty

Your right Tru_Mac..................millions of European immigrants didn't pass by the Statue of Liberty

Millions of people from conflict zones, from countries with repressive regimes and dictators didn't come here

We don't have a document that

GUARANTEES freedom of speech, assembly, press, religion
GUARANTEES a speedy, public trial, w/ a jury of peers, a lawyer, or self representation
GUARANTEES the ability to avoid self-incrimination
GUARANTEES the ability to avoid double jeopardy,
GUARANTEES due process of law
GUARANTEES the ability to be justly compensated by the government for loss of property for public use
GUARANTEES the right to prevent unreasonable searches and seizures w/o a judged issued warrant
GUARANTEES the ability to avoid excessive bails if the alleged crime doesn't match it
GUARANTEES ability to avoid cruel or unusual punishment
GUARANTEES no quartering of troops in your home
GUARANTEESthe ability to protect yourself via arms


Your right Tru_Mac............None of that would make this a haven/sanctuary for Chinese dissidents, or Sudanese refugees, or Iraqi Christians, or Bosnians fleeing Serbia, or people from other countries that admire the freedom we have........which happens emanate from the Bill of Rights.

...why yall making this complicated, I said in an earlier posts that

Yes, the Native Americans were rampaged
Yes, Africans endured bitter slavery
Yes, folks foreign/domestic have dealt with the ramifications of certain policies that were quite brutal, to say the least

By no means has the history been perfect, or have the rights espoused in the document been fairly applied to all people at all times....we all recognize that......it doesn't take away from the fact, that very few sovereign countries can claim to have a document that guarantees those above mentioned rights.....the point is this, tide is turning away from those freedoms in total, not just a few rights here and there............it's very difficult to get those freedoms back when they become systematically institutionalized, meaning folks are paid to maintain the new status quo......which just happens to be w/o our rights....

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Your right Tru_Mac..................millions of European immigrants didn't pass by the Statue of Liberty

Millions of people from conflict zones, from countries with repressive regimes and dictators didn't come here

We don't have a document that

GUARANTEES freedom of speech, assembly, press, religion
GUARANTEES a speedy, public trial, w/ a jury of peers, a lawyer, or self representation
GUARANTEES the ability to avoid self-incrimination
GUARANTEES the ability to avoid double jeopardy,
GUARANTEES due process of law
GUARANTEES the ability to be justly compensated by the government for loss of property for public use
GUARANTEES the right to prevent unreasonable searches and seizures w/o a judged issued warrant
GUARANTEES the ability to avoid excessive bails if the alleged crime doesn't match it
GUARANTEES ability to avoid cruel or unusual punishment
GUARANTEES no quartering of troops in your home
GUARANTEESthe ability to protect yourself via arms


Your right Tru_Mac............None of that would make this a haven/sanctuary for Chinese dissidents, or Sudanese refugees, or Iraqi Christians, or Bosnians fleeing Serbia, or people from other countries that admire the freedom we have........which happens emanate from the Bill of Rights.

...why yall making this complicated, I said in an earlier posts that




By no means has the history been perfect, or have the rights espoused in the document been fairly applied to all people at all times....we all recognize that......it doesn't take away from the fact, that very few sovereign countries can claim to have a document that guarantees those above mentioned rights.....the point is this, tide is turning away from those freedoms in total, not just a few rights here and there............it's very difficult get those freedoms back when they systematically institutionalized, meaning folks are paid to maintain the new status quo......which just happens to be w/o our rights....

@ the bolded

does anyone here honestly believe alex jones would've been speaking up against internment camps??? or red lining???

dude is so gung ho on the police state but does anyone see him as a revolutionary of the ppl???

you honestly believe alex jones cares about the oppression of ppl???

or does alex jones care about the decline of the "free and transparent republic of the US"

 

[tru_m.a.c]

this bytch has been a police state for minorities since they got here, regardless of the "guaranteed" freedoms...but now I'm supposed to feel even more affected because the freedoms in "total" will be taken away

boo fukkn hoo

welcome to the fukkn party....take a ticket and get to the back

 

[newworldafro]

@ the bolded

does anyone here honestly believe alex jones would've been speaking up against internment camps??? or red lining???

dude is so gung ho on the police state but does anyone see him as a revolutionary of the ppl???

you honestly believe alex jones cares about the oppression of ppl???

or does alex jones care about the decline of the "free and transparent republic of the US"

Here is a list of other "messengers", with the same basic tenets.........check them out sometime...............are they all kooks?? many that have worked in the same fields they discuss??

Jeff Rense
Dr. Deagle
Gerald Celente
Alan Watts
Jim Marrs
Bob Tuskin
Doug Owens
Max Kaiser
Paul Craig Roberts
Webster Tarpley
Mike Adams
Charles McGrath

Its not them....its the information they are providing...and again, once you hear the message, do you own research

The point of the thread is that precedent shows, officials stories aren't always without important underlining/understated background........

Hell, The Gulf of Tonkin incident was a fake/contrived event that historians will freely tell you was fake justification to go to war in Vietnam

We just had less than a decade ago, justification to go into Iraq as being Yellow Cake & WMDizzles that were never found

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Here is a list of other "messengers", with the same basic tenets.........check them out sometime...............are they all kooks?? many that have worked in the same fields they discuss??

Jeff Rense
Dr. Deagle
Gerald Celente
Alan Watts
Jim Marrs
Bob Tuskin
Doug Owens
Max Kaiser
Paul Craig Roberts
Webster Tarpley
Mike Adams
Charles McGrath

Its not them....its the information they are providing...and again, once you hear the message, do you own research

The point of the thread is that precedent shows, officials stories aren't always without important underlining/understated background........

Hell, The Gulf of Tonkin incident was a fake/contrived event that historians will freely tell you was fake justification to go to war in Vietnam

We just had less than a decade ago, justification to go into Iraq as being Yellow Cake and WMDizzles that were never found

breh you know I already agree with you that official news stories aren't always what they seem

shyt the osama assassination news stories were botched all crazy

but when you started talking about the credibility of alex jones I was like

lol just cause he's right about there being something "fishy" doesn't mean he's right about the info itself

cause the mitt romney tax issue ain't gonna die....he's the last leg of the election....nothing is going to kill that story

if anything, alex should be talking about how the liberals and progressives still can't create a powerful campaign that educates the masses

 

[///Vega+++]

the funniest thing to me about this dude has always been that he sounds just like DJ Premier

 

[wtfyomom]

I think the point he was making and showing was that there are documented cases of the official story, NOT BEING THE ACTUAL OR FULL STORY....

It amazes that after all the events of the past 10 years, some of yall are to pompous to see this...............



Just wondering....do any of yall actually look at/read alternative media websites to see the information they are putting out there or the angles they are showing that the MSM will not/can not show you............

If yall think the MSM is giving you 100% accurate and detailed information or giving you the most important information then you've been missing out....imho

basically, nikka is reporting FACTS and you sheep cant see it. Im sorry I dont believe any human being wakes up and decides to go kill random people for no reason. I believe it was a setup

 

[lachreyatarbabypits]

Why would the government stage THIS for gun control when something like this happens damn near every year? Just last year there were a slew of massacres. This shooting doesnt change anyones outlook on the fact we need stricter gun control. We need to start putting the clamps on gun shows and shops.

 

[lachreyatarbabypits]

I think the point he was making and showing was that there are documented cases of the official story, NOT BEING THE ACTUAL OR FULL STORY....

It amazes that after all the events of the past 10 years, some of yall are to pompous to see this...............



Just wondering....do any of yall actually look at/read alternative media websites to see the information they are putting out there or the angles they are showing that the MSM will not/can not show you............

If yall think the MSM is giving you 100% accurate and detailed information or giving you the most important information then you've been missing out....imho

Youre never going to win. There is no balance because for those who dont believe youre going to call pompous and naive and to those who do we're going to call you reaching and overly paranoid.

 

[wtfyomom]

Going back and listening to his take on 9/11, him going so far as to say it was a planned and executed by our own government. He even suggests that all the planes involved in the attack controlled in a remote location using drone technology and that the buildings didn't collapse from the damage caused by impact of the two hijacked planes but rather a controlled demolition. It's this type of reaching and other outlandish claims on the indecent that ruined his credibility for me.

um that is 100 percent truth, did you not hear the facts? The jet fuel does not heat up to a high enough temperature to melt the inside steel on the towers, also explain building 7.

I swear you dudes are mad sheep. physics proves the wtc could not have possibly collapsed the way it did with the explanation this country gave you. Those are facts. Wake up. and you a black man? You STILL face institutionalized racism every day, this country put ur peeps through slavery and segregation and you trust them?

 

[John Hull]

Alex Jones presents a legitimate (sometimes hilarious) counterpoint to the MSM. The truth is probably somewhere between those polar opposites.

 

[wtfyomom]

You know what the problem is with you sheep? That you dont think the country would use violence on its own people.

Because the government puts laws into effect that kills 100 times more people than the wtc attack did everyday. All the shiiit they let the meat companies inject into the meat kills millions from cancer. Its just not violent. So you accept that. But put violence into the equation and you cant beleive it because youve been conditioned to not think its feasible.

Why would the government give a fukk about knocking down a building and killing a measly 2000 peeps when they killing millions slowly everyday?

Wake the fuccck up. Shiit its right in front of your face.

Look up the history of this country and all the disgusting shiiit they did over the years. You think they just changed within the past 50 years? They suddenly got a heart? GTFOH

 

[lachreyatarbabypits]

basically, nikka is reporting FACTS and you sheep cant see it. Im sorry I dont believe any human being wakes up and decides to go kill random people for no reason. I believe it was a setup

Why couldnt this be some kind of festival or parade then? What I really dont understand is why do you heavy conspiracist continue to not realize you will never know the truth unless it is given to you. And also even if this was true, what the fukk are YOU going to do about it. You cant beat the government. You never will. Youre just looking for knowledge for the sake of saying youre not a sheep but you will always be a sheep. You can know all of the governments doings but as long as you have a SS number, credit card, rent, and bills youre no better than any regular person because you suspect the government of wrongdoing. Every gov't is shady, people understand this, accept it and TRY to join each other in hopes of changing it but youre not changing shyt in this country because noone gives a fukk what you think. You think these politicians really give a damn about how you feel? Theyre like youre parents when you were yoing telling them what you wanted but they always did what they THOUGHT was right for you. I wanna knwo what other shootings were government staged also since we're going this path. Since you guys know SO MUCH of what this country is doing when you have no leads or intel. All you have is news articles and a man on Youtube talking.

 

[wtfyomom]

Why couldnt this be some kind of festival or parade then? What I really dont understand is why do you heavy conspiracist continue to not realize you will never know the truth unless it is given to you. And also even if this was true, what the fukk are YOU going to do about it. You cant beat the government. You never will. Youre just looking for knowledge for the sake of saying youre not a sheep but you will always be a sheep. You can know all of the governments doings but as long as you have a SS number, credit card, rent, and bills youre no better than any regular person because you suspect the government of wrongdoing. Every gov't is shady, people understand this, accept it and TRY to join each other in hopes of changing it but youre not changing shyt in this country because noone gives a fukk what you think. You think these politicians really give a damn about how you feel? Theyre like youre parents when you were yoing telling them what you wanted but they always did what they THOUGHT was right for you. I wanna knwo what other shootings were government staged also since we're going this path. Since you guys know SO MUCH of what this country is doing when you have no leads or intel. All you have is news articles and a man on Youtube talking.

The problem I have with your thinking is that its the very reason we are in modern day slavery. Because everyone thinks they are alone, Precisely what the government wants, you are accepting corruption.

Now Im not an idiot. If I go up to city hall myself I will literally accomplish nothing, not even a message because I will simply be condemned as crazy by sheep like you. However If by information, enough people could be convinced I would absolutely be down for revolution.

Unfortunately the government does a great job of making people into sheep.

and terrible analogy to parents, your parents, well hopefully, actually give a fucck about you, the government doesnt care about you AT ALL