So Alex Jones thinks the goverment staged the Colorado shooting?

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The general thing he has been right about is that the country is incrementally transforming from a democratic republic haven of freedom/liberty into the opposite....


i stopped right there. America was never like that.
 

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i stopped right there. America was never like that.

:ohlawd: :snoop:...........you're missing the point..........

Yes, the Native Americans were rampaged
Yes, Africans endured bitter slavery
Yes, folks foreign/domestic have dealt with the ramifications of certain policies that were quite brutal, to say the least

^^^Yes...I WON'T EVER DENY THIS.....and sometime Jones does miss the above points.......

The point is simple, though.........it's not complicated yall.................it is that the document written by hypocritical slave owners about the natural rights for humans beings (at the time mostly white land owning men) should be put into place as the Constitution/Bill of Rights.......the Bill of Rights was to protect the people (the states) from the whims of tyranny, since they knew from experience and historical precedent in Europe that monarchs had no problem doing as they pleased when it came to how people were treated...hence the Bill of Rights was put in place in U.S. ................. over time many countries have adopted the Constitutions/Bill of Rights based on the U.S. version.....

HENCE.......the point is those rights that in theory should protect everyone, have been watered down through various means, especially the last 10 years, to the point that folks almost disparage the document......that is the U.S. leaving the democratic republic model of freedom/liberty.....
 

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:ohlawd: :snoop:...........your missing the point..........

Yes, the Native Americans were rampaged
Yes, African endured bitter slavery
Yes, folks foreign/domestic have dealt with the ramifications of certain policies that were quite brutal, to say the least

^^^Yes...I WON'T EVER DENY THIS.....and I sometime Jones does miss the above points.......

The point is simple, though.........it's not complicated yall.................it is that the document written by hypocritical slave owners about the natural rights for humans beings (at time mostly white land owning men) should be put into place as the Constitution/Bill of Rights.......the Bill of Rights was to protect the people from the whims of tyranny, since they knew from experience and historical precedent in Europe that monarchs had no problem doing as they pleased when it came to how people were treated...hence the Bill of Rights was put in place in U.S. ................. over time many countries have adopted the Constitutions/Bill of Rights based on the U.S. version.....

HENCE.......the point is those rights that in theory should protect everyoone, have been watered down, especially the last 10 years, to the point that folks almost disparage the document......that is the U.S. leaving the democratic republic model of freedom/liberty.....


no your missing the point. Those rights you are talking about did not protect everyone and has been a growing process. Now i don't deny that conspiracy's don't exist but you are acting like America did not hold people back in one form of another from our corrupt FBI to law enforcement. America has always been a symbol of this democratic model you speak of but it never practiced it.
 

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no your missing the point. Those rights you are talking about did not protect everyone and has been a growing process. Now i don't deny that conspiracy's don't exist but you are acting like America did not hold people back in one form of another from our corrupt FBI to law enforcement. America has always been a symbol of this democratic model you speak of but it never practiced it.

:ohlawd:.............You are agreeing with everything I said, while thinking you disagree with me....... :dwillhuh: :whoo:

Ok....you're correct Bud

Not trying to derail the thread. The fact is Jones showed documentation on the computer screen, if yall actually watched the short 11 minute clip OP posted, of various well known attacks/potential attacks and it was determined even by MSM media outlets that there were underlying aspects of each case, not so cut and dry.
 

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I think the point he was making and showing was that there are documented cases of the official story, NOT BEING THE ACTUAL OR FULL STORY....

It amazes that after all the events of the past 10 years, some of yall are to pompous to see this...............

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Just wondering....do any of yall actually look at/read alternative media websites to see the information they are putting out there or the angles they are showing that the MSM will not/can not show you............

If yall think the MSM is giving you 100% accurate and detailed information or giving you the most important information then you've been missing out....imho
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:ohlawd:.............You are agreeing with everything I said, while thinking you disagree with me....... :dwillhuh: :whoo:

Ok....you're correct Bud

Not trying to derail the thread. The fact is Jones showed documentation on the computer screen, if yall actually watched the short 11 minute clip OP posted, of various well known attacks/potential attacks and it was determined even by MSM media outlets that there were underlying aspects of each case, not so cut and dry.

not really. You are saying we are slowly losing our rights. I am trying to say that it has been a up and down process that they are still working on.
 

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I don't know much about the story. All I'm going to say is, that this tragedy might be used to justify further gun control. Throughout RECENT history, many tragedies have been used to justify further changes to the world. With chaos, usually comes new order(laws; more security, etc). ORDO AB CHAO(Order out of chaos) is the phrase for the world.

Secondly, Alex Jones is right, America becoming more of a police state. America has never really been about a democratic republic, whose government served the people. However, the illusion that we live in a free republic that serves us, is slowly being revealed for what it is... a illusion.
 

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I don't know much about the story. All I'm going to say is, that this tragedy might be used to justify further gun control. Throughout RECENT history, many tragedies have been used to justify further changes to the world. With chaos, usually comes new order(laws; more security, etc). ORDO AB CHAO(Order out of chaos) is the phrase for the world.

Secondly, Alex Jones is right, America becoming more of a police state. America has never really been about a democratic republic, whose government served the people. However, the illusion that we live in a free republic that serves us, is slowly being revealed for what it is... a illusion.
So people getting killed by drunk drivers shouldn't mean tougher laws on drunk drivers? People taking Bath Salts and doing all kind of crazy shyt shouldn't mean control on them?
 

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So people getting killed by drunk drivers shouldn't mean tougher laws on drunk drivers? People taking Bath Salts and doing all kind of crazy shyt shouldn't mean control on them?

We can both agree that w/ chaos, comes new order. I didn't say we should not have tougher laws on drunk drivers. As far as bath salts, I don't know the whole story on the Miami situation.

With that said, based on recent history, we all know w/ chaos comes new order. There is no denying this, so it wouldn't come as a surprise, if we see new gun regulations or perhaps guns being taken away from people.
 

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We can both agree that w/ chaos, comes new order. I didn't say we should not have tougher laws on drunk drivers. As far as bath salts, I don't know the whole story on the Miami situation.

With that said, based on recent history, we all know w/ chaos comes new order. There is no denying this, so it wouldn't come as a surprise, if we see new gun regulations or perhaps guns being taken away from people.

You call it "new order" I'm calling the shyt preventing anarchy.
 

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You call it "new order" I'm calling the shyt preventing anarchy.

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So a few random shootings(DKR; Columbine; VT) justify further gun regulations and more police watch?

There's more likelihood, that I get hit by lightning than by a shooting like Columbine. With talks of more police at movie theaters, what's next, there's going to be floods of police to frisk me going to Taco Bell?

Most of the time "anarchy" happens, it's not a bunch of people running around rioting for no reason. A majority of those riots, are because of a system in place there rioting against(the LA riots in the mid 60s and 90s are perfect examples). This whole, we must have new rules to prevent "anarchy", is just a simple fear tactic used by the higher ups to convince to the masses to have more government intrusion.
 

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So a few random shootings(DKR; Columbine; VT) justify further gun regulations and more police watch?

There's more likelihood, that I get hit by lightning than by a shooting like Columbine. With talks of more police at movie theaters, what's next, there's going to be floods of police to frisk me going to Taco Bell?

Most of the time "anarchy" happens, it's not a bunch of people running around rioting for no reason. A majority of those riots, are because of a system in place there rioting against(the LA riots in the mid 60s and 90s are perfect examples). This whole, we must have new rules to prevent "anarchy", is just a simple fear tactic used by the higher ups to convince to the masses to have more government intrusion.

shyt, were you from nikka? I'm in Decatur, GA breh, fukk that anarchy talk.
 
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