Albums Skyzoo - Keep Me Company (Discussion Thread)

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But say @Walt, out of all New York rappers which one represents that NY sound the most for you?

I do agree that Skyzoo is overly poetic, suffers from chronic rhyming rather than expounding on a cohesive (or even coherent) train of thoughts.

Sound wise, I can't recall a rapper that most gives you that NY feel with their project. Joey Badass could've been the one, but he's somehow worse than Skyzoo sonorically to me, even lyrically.

I believe you've made it quite clear why he bores/disappoints you, but I would be remiss not to notice that you still check out his projects. What is it that gets you to press play, I'm just trying to see if it aligns with why I check out his projects.
:lupe:

In general I listen to an unreasonable amount of hip hop, and I likely always will. It's the reason I'm early to so much of the good stuff (I trust my ears instead of waiting for people to tell me what's dope, so I don't have to "catch on" to the Machs and Rocs and Payroll Giovannis of the world 5-10 years later etc. Unfortunately, this means I consume a lot of wack music too. And I'll go back to artists who made mediocre projects but showed some potential when they put out new work, because artistic growth is a real thing.

However... none of that applies to Skyler the Bloviator. I'll check his projects when a friend tells me "yo, this one is even more insipid than the other shyt" because I'm genuinely interested in how this guy keeps being so awful while doing that social media sound of one hand clapping thing where he can't stop explaining to the world how dope he is. He's like a kitschy magician whose parlor trick is making the transparently wackest possible nostaljack music while presenting it as complex and essential. It does fascinate me in a morose way.
 

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I believe you've made it quite clear why he bores/disappoints you, but I would be remiss not to notice that you still check out his projects.
For the record, I've skipped over a bunch of his projects that were so conceptually retarded I just couldn't bring myself to hit play. So Theo vs JJ and Mind of a Saint were two I had to laugh out loud about but never waste time on.
 

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But say @Walt, out of all New York rappers which one represents that NY sound the most for you?
Current rappers? I don't know that I'm looking for someone to represent the NY sound. What would that even be? But I know good music. Just have always had an ear for it across genres, and especially in hip hop. A dude doing 4th rate nostaljack records misses the old "authentic" sound and definitely is out of step with the sound of the moment. I guess you know authenticity when you hear it, and I'm still trying to hear what the NY sound is today.

I know biting inflections and flows and rehashing beats while doing convoluted and overcooked lyrical meditations on rap music encouraging non-blacks to use the n-word is depressingly behind the times.

The younger dudes moving the music forward are interesting in spots (MIKE, for instance), but they get by on beats and vibes at times without much spirit or lyrical prowess or magnetic flow. Most of the street kids are making derivative murder music. You could argue Cash Cobain has a very NY sound right now, and my younger cousins love that shyt, but I think there's grace and dignity in recognizing I reached a point in life where trying to listen to what the younger kids rock with isn't authentic for me.
 

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In general I listen to an unreasonable amount of hip hop, and I likely always will. It's the reason I'm early to so much of the good stuff (I trust my ears instead of waiting for people to tell me what's dope, so I don't have to "catch on" to the Machs and Rocs and Payroll Giovannis of the world 5-10 years later etc. Unfortunately, this means I consume a lot of wack music too. And I'll go back to artists who made mediocre projects but showed some potential when they put out new work, because artistic growth is a real thing.

However... none of that applies to Skyler the Bloviator. I'll check his projects when a friend tells me "yo, this one is even more insipid than the other shyt" because I'm genuinely interested in how this guy keeps being so awful while doing that social media sound of one hand clapping thing where he can't stop explaining to the world how dope he is. He's like a kitschy magician whose parlor trick is making the transparently wackest possible nostaljack music while presenting it as complex and essential. It does fascinate me in a morose way.
Same here. :francis:
Skyler the Bloviator! :russ: Stay deadly @Walt! :lolbron:

But it is fascinating, he's got a knack for making you feel like "yo, this time it might be different"!
Although I would point to his beat selection for that...he reminds me of Drake and 40. Boring flow, the soundtrack blends well with the "insipid" shyt.

I honestly wish more rappers had access to these beats he raps on. They're beautiful gems. Especially in this album.
 

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Current rappers? I don't know that I'm looking for someone to represent the NY sound. What would that even be? But I know good music. Just have always had an ear for it across genres, and especially in hip hop. A dude doing 4th rate nostaljack records misses the old "authentic" sound and definitely is out of step with the sound of the moment. I guess you know authenticity when you hear it, and I'm still trying to hear what the NY sound is today.

I know biting inflections and flows and rehashing beats while doing convoluted and overcooked lyrical meditations on rap music encouraging non-blacks to use the n-word is depressingly behind the times.

The younger dudes moving the music forward are interesting in spots (MIKE, for instance), but they get by on beats and vibes at times without much spirit or lyrical prowess or magnetic flow. Most of the street kids are making derivative murder music. You could argue Cash Cobain has a very NY sound right now, and my younger cousins love that shyt, but I think there's grace and dignity in recognizing I reached a point in life where trying to listen to what the younger kids rock with isn't authentic for me.
Now that's a good question...

Honestly I listen to Skyzoo because I can't really listen to much that comes out of the east coast. God knows I have tried. There are sparks, and I was interested in Scar Lip for a minute, but it always morphs into another sound from another place. Yet, I do listen to a lot of old songs from NY (the classics) and I can't quite understand how that branch of hip-hop just died out.

I understand other regions and styles popping up, and am actually thankful for that. But something happened to NY that I don't quite understand, so when I started listening to Skyzoo, it did strike a chord. It filled in a blank, in a triangle-trying-to-fit-into-a-square awkward type of way. Still, much like you I'm trying to hear what the NY sound is today, but nothing's really come around to give me that "Aha!" feeling.

As for your last point, I am 34 now, so I'm bound to give up this empty search sometime soon for the same reasons; grace and dignity.
 

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Same here. :francis:
Skyler the Bloviator! :russ: Stay deadly @Walt! :lolbron:

But it is fascinating, he's got a knack for making you feel like "yo, this time it might be different"!
Although I would point to his beat selection for that...he reminds me of Drake and 40. Boring flow, the soundtrack blends well with the "insipid" shyt.

I honestly wish more rappers had access to these beats he raps on. They're beautiful gems. Especially in this album.

See, here and there I'll hear a smooth track but more often than not I'm hearing that muzak pseudo-smooth thing that's akin to the modern jazz recreations of iconic hip hop producers who sampled jazz records - the sort of stuff that's fodder for hipster lounges in Brooklyn. "doesn't this sound simultaneously new and old? Isn't it so... pleasant?" The music is quaint. Like a structure specifically designed to cheaply emulate an antique. Like the Record Store Day track - leave Electric Relaxation alone, bozo. I think there's a track on this project that touches a sample a producer also touched for a recent TF record, and Snooze's version is so much less funky.

But I'm with you on the Drake thing. A long time ago - well before Mos Def - I compared Drake's music to target - there's something there for everyone, that's adequate enough, and accessible. Skysnooze is more like if there was a Target version of a corner store/bodega. Like one of those charmless ones in Hell's Kitchen, that you know is a bodega by the shape of its offerings, but the deli sandwiches aren't hittin, and they don't carry the popular hood beverages, and the candy is the same as in rite aid. "I guess I'll have to suffer this if there's no other option."
 

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See, here and there I'll hear a smooth track but more often than not I'm hearing that muzak pseudo-smooth thing that's akin to the modern jazz recreations of iconic hip hop producers who sampled jazz records - the sort of stuff that's fodder for hipster lounges in Brooklyn. "doesn't this sound simultaneously new and old? Isn't it so... pleasant?" The music is quaint. Like a structure specifically designed to cheaply emulate an antique. Like the Record Store Day track - leave Electric Relaxation alone, bozo. I think there's a track on this project that touches a sample a producer also touched for a recent TF record, and Snooze's version is so much less funky.

But I'm with you on the Drake thing. A long time ago - well before Mos Def - I compared Drake's music to target - there's something there for everyone, that's adequate enough, and accessible. Skysnooze is more like if there was a Target version of a corner store/bodega. Like one of those charmless ones in Hell's Kitchen, that you know is a bodega by the shape of its offerings, but the deli sandwiches aren't hittin, and they don't carry the popular hood beverages, and the candy is the same as in rite aid. "I guess I'll have to suffer this if there's no other option."
:deadrose:

I've never stepped foot in a hipster lounge from New York to form this assessment but I can immediately grasp what you're conveying. And for real, both Drake and Skyzoo do create music that often serves as background ambience, a point with which I wholeheartedly agree. Perhaps the allure lies in that metaphorical 'watered-down wine'—a drink that doesn't quite elevate you into euphoria or intoxication, but one that can be consumed in large quantities without overwhelming the senses.

I can certainly imagine the bodega version of that 'target' you mentioned! It’s a pretty clever analogy, and it helps articulate why I sense an unmistakable New York influence in the bloviator's artistry.

I bring this up because, in reflecting on Kendrick's latest album and his place in the ongoing rap discourse, I couldn't help but notice the way he integrates elements of West Coast sound into his music. However, there's something distinctly different about his approach. It's as though his tribute to that sound isn't so much a continuation of a past glory as it is an homage—a respectful nod rather than a revival. Kendrick’s West Coast-infused tracks feel like they could coexist with the classics, but perhaps this impression is moreso due to how people from LA receive them...? I can't be sure.

While all three of the rappers I've mentioned draw from older sonic traditions, there's a distinct departure in the way Drake and Skyzoo craft something new, something entirely their own, as opposed to Kendrick, whose sound seems to both honor and transcend its roots.
 

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:deadrose:

I've never stepped foot in a hipster lounge from New York to form this assessment but I can immediately grasp what you're conveying. And for real, both Drake and Skyzoo do create music that often serves as background ambience, a point with which I wholeheartedly agree. Perhaps the allure lies in that metaphorical 'watered-down wine'—a drink that doesn't quite elevate you into euphoria or intoxication, but one that can be consumed in large quantities without overwhelming the senses.

I can certainly imagine the bodega version of that 'target' you mentioned! It’s a pretty clever analogy, and it helps articulate why I sense an unmistakable New York influence in the bloviator's artistry.

I bring this up because, in reflecting on Kendrick's latest album and his place in the ongoing rap discourse, I couldn't help but notice the way he integrates elements of West Coast sound into his music. However, there's something distinctly different about his approach. It's as though his tribute to that sound isn't so much a continuation of a past glory as it is an homage—a respectful nod rather than a revival. Kendrick’s West Coast-infused tracks feel like they could coexist with the classics, but perhaps this impression is moreso due to how people from LA receive them...? I can't be sure.

While all three of the rappers I've mentioned draw from older sonic traditions, there's a distinct departure in the way Drake and Skyzoo craft something new, something entirely their own, as opposed to Kendrick, whose sound seems to both honor and transcend its roots.

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I gave the album another chance the past couple days cuz my homie keeps telling me he's dope but Jesus christ this guy is so fukking boring i can't do it. I don't even know how he's still around with his basic flow and boring rhymes. I told my homie I can't bro. I'm glad you like it but dude is not for me.
 

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I gave the album another chance the past couple days cuz my homie keeps telling me he's dope but Jesus christ this guy is so fukking boring i can't do it. I don't even know how he's still around with his basic flow and boring rhymes. I told my homie I can't bro. I'm glad you like it but dude is not for me.
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In the few tracks I've heard from this project he's mentioned his ghostwriting every time. Sky is incessant on letting you know he has penned hits. :mjlol:

My favourite part of peeping a Sky project is to hear those comical repeated hooks. It only took the 2nd track. I remain truly amazed how he keeps rehashing the same drums, horns and song structure across projects. It's worth a listen and genuinely humours me every time. Maybe if he made a project called "If The Wire Had A Season 6" I might listen to a tape all the way through again.

Music For My Friends was my peak. And I still wanna erase that Trap Rapper song from my head.
 

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In the few tracks I've heard from this project he's mentioned his ghostwriting every time. Sky is incessant on letting you know he has penned hits. :mjlol:

My favourite part of peeping a Sky project is to hear those comical repeated hooks. It only took the 2nd track. I remain truly amazed how he keeps rehashing the same drums, horns and song structure across projects. It's worth a listen and genuinely humours me every time. Maybe if he made a project called "If The Wire Had A Season 6" I might listen to a tape all the way through again.

Music For My Friends was my peak. And I still wanna erase that Trap Rapper song from my head.

:dead::dead::dead:

Dude stays with the smart-dumb concepts.

Skyzoo's new album, The September 7th Theory - 12 tracks, each representing Tupac Shakur's thoughts during every hour from 11:15 am until 11:15 pm, when he was shot in Las Vegas. Keep on the lookout for Jason Hunter vs. Christopher Wallace, a project that explores how Brooklyn might've been different if Brother J from X Clan was a crack dealer turned flossy rapper, and Notorious B.I.G. joined a Black Nationalist rap crew.

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