Skip and Shannon list their all time top 10

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I never saw Bird or Magic live I can’t list them. My personal top 5 are

MJ
Bron
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq

As a admiral of the LeBron stan club I can’t put him above MJ till he gets 6 rings. That’s like saying someone in hockey is greater than Gretzky. Some athletes are just always going to be #1 in their sport :yeshrug:

Shaq and Bron are my favorite players of all time but I can admit it’s players ahead of them in any all time list
 
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Your list is shyt. Kazaam status

Penny/tmac rofl.
Most talented list) ?
Underachievers don't get rewarded

Most people don't really list the top 10 players of all-time when they do rankings like this. Instead they list the top 10 careers. Which is why they argue over stuff like rings and stats. My list is based purely on basketball playing ability.

I don't rank players based on how their careers turned out. So you won't see me penalize guys like Penny and T-Mac for unfortunate luck with injuries. Think of it like an all-time draft. I'm projecting how good these players would be if they all had similar talent around them their entire careers as well as the same luck with injuries.
 

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I'm tired of the Tim > Kobe narrative. Idk why that makes me so mad.

And that's no slight on Tim


I understand in that there's no need to compared them. They're both greats who played completely different positions for very different teams and won in different ways.


But if you're implying that Kobe is definitively ahead of Duncan or something.....Duncan has more MVPs, more Finals MVPs, and was the best player and leader on more title teams. They have the same # of titles overall and the same # of All-NBA selections. Kobe is clearly the more impactful scorer but Duncan is clearly the more impactful defender.

Duncan's most dominant stretch (1999 to 2005) is more impressive than Kobe's peak - 7 straight 1st-team All-NBA, 7 straight 1st-team All-Defensive (and actually earned), 7 straight top-5 MVP finishes including 2 MVPs and 2 MVP runner-ups, 3 titles and 3 Finals MVPs while elevating some of the weakest supporting casts of our era for a title team.

Again, not saying you need to compare two greats. But if you're gonna compare them, Duncan's case is so strong right through the middle of Kobe's era that you ain't putting Kobe over him by any objective standard.
 
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