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Its a some low key "genetic" envy going on in this thread..... . A lot of what has been posted is true for the most part, but some BROTHERS are just freaks of nature when it comes to GOD's engineering...

Yea alot of what has been posted is correct,but some cats are true freaks of Nature's and I saw it first hand in the joint. And that's all I'm trying to explain but dude don't believe it:yeshrug:
 

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Yea alot of what has been posted is correct,but some cats are true freaks of Nature's and I saw it first hand in the joint. And that's all I'm trying to explain but dude don't believe it:yeshrug:

Its a some low key "genetic" envy going on in this thread..... . A lot of what has been posted is true for the most part, but some BROTHERS are just freaks of nature when it comes to GOD's engineering...

No one here is jealous of any of these guys. Most guys on the Coli with the RIGHT compounds and dosage can EASILY get to the conditioning and size of these fake natural bodybuilders posted in this thread. The ONLY difference is the shape of the muscle. That’s it. Bodybuilding HAS more do with chemicals than genetics, diet(Somewhat matters) and routine. This is modern day reality. There's a saying in the bodybuilding world, if you are using less than 3 compounds you are natty :mjlol:

You two seem blind to the power of ANABOLIC steroids, key word here being ANABOLIC. You will gain more muscle and mass on a 6 week cycle of blue hearts/Pink Thai or 12 week cycle on Best E(Won't name actual steroids for thread to continue) than lifting 4-5 years natural. And lifting after 3-4 years become pointless, because you will have already reached your natural peak.

Here is some more proof

Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men. - PubMed - NCBI

Study design:
Healthy young males put on different amounts of BEST E for 20 weeks:
25 mg
50 mg
125 mg
300 mg
600 mg

Those with low doses take drugs to block their own test production

They do not work out at all and run similar diet - no kcal or protein increase:

Results (means):
25 mg: -1 kg fat free mass, +3.1 kg fat mass
50 mg: +0.6 kg fat free mass, +3.5 kg fat mass
125 mg +3.4 kg fat free mass, no change in fat mass
300 mg +5.4 kg fat free mass -0.5 kg fat mass
600 mg +7.9 kg fat free mass -1.1 kg fat mass
Results

Increased PURE muscle mass and loss bodyfat without lifting. Those who dosed at 600mg per week gained 8kg/17.6 Pounds of muscle WITHOUT lifting.:ohlawd:

Here is another study

www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101

This time the roided group had 500mg BESTE/week.

Roided and lifting: 14lbs lbm gained
Roided and non lifting: 7lbs lbm gained
Natty lifting: 4lbs lbm gained

:manny: The reality of bodybuilding

Do you realize that when someone takes AAS there body shuts down natural production? Therefore the body had a limit to Testosterone productions thus you have a limit to lean muscle mass. Human body has limits and this notion of superhuman is laughable.

Also how do you know if people are natural? It takes seconds to inject and 1 second to take a oral.

No one here is jealous, we are grown men. You can lie to 15 years but not men
 

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The difference Anabolic makes

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So I'm guessing that their GENETICS magically turn on once they hit the gym right just like Panda right

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I'm done here, if you cannot accept the reality, PM I have some magic beanstalks to sell you
 

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#4 Paul Dillett is a super responder to steroids. Dude didn't put in any work in the gym and his peers stayed riding him for his laziness. Just proof that spiking your body with exogenous anabolics will lead to quick gains.
 

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:russ:

Some of these clowns on here will argue that steroids dont help that much.

Its sadbhiwnstupid the average person is.

Steroids make you a mutant.
 

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To the untrained this guy doesn't look like a juicer. But whoever this guy is he is 100% on the steroids, probably running a basic Test/Dbol stack.

187cm 105kg of lean visible muscle with abs showing is NOT possible natural. Forget the stats for a second, look at the size, density and fullness of the muscle. I know he has a pump but the size/lean is not naturally possible and the traps are also a give away. Sorry. Please don't bring up this genetics crap.

This natural bodybuilding stuff really needs to die. Anyone who is serious about bodybuilding, wants to look like a bodybuilder or wants maximize athletic shouldn't be natural. If you could get an AMAZING JAW DROPPING physique naturally, steroids would never have been created. Bodybuilding and steroids go together like peanut butter and jelly. This is what steroids were created for. If Arnold and his boys weren't natural in the 70s when bodybuilding was in its golden era, why would you assume it is clean and drug free today? lol

Yes, you can develop a quality lean muscular physique as a natural, the type of body that gets head turning in the beach. But you will not get even close to the level of a basic steroid user who running a simple compound. The natural male produces 30-50mg of Test per week. The average steroid user is injecting 500mg per week, difference.

Man, there isn't an industry dirty as the bodybuilding/supplement industry. You would be able to get more truth from a drug dealer or a pimp than a bodybuilder.

All natural here
Natural bodybuilding is great :yeshrug: Natural Bodybuilding isn't what needs to go, it's the blatant lying that needs to go.
Some of my favorite youtubers are all natural and yes against cats like Ronnie Coleman they look like mere mortals but
most bodybuilders do !
Anyone who says you can't look great natural is lying through their teeth ! You put a guy like @krackdagawd or @3rdCoast up against
Joe schmo and damn near 100% of the time they're going to look more impressive.

Also on bb.com there are several threads on natural bodybuilders before the creation of synthesized testosterone and several of those guys
had some damn impressive physiques which line up with what's achievable of today natural.
 
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