Sicario 2: Day of the Soldado (Official Thread)

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saw it on bootleg. boring and forgettable. cop out ass ending - shoot a bytch in the face and he dont die?! suck my dikk

spics will never make a movie as good as Miss Bala again

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I'd say this is a worthy sequel to the first. Both governments ended up looking like some dumb fukks
America didn't get the origin of the terrorists until after they started the war in Mexico. :snoop: Mexican government clearly working with Reyes cartel which got Graver and Gillick ambushed. I liked that this movie was basically the origin of the young kid becoming a Sicario. dope set up for part 3 :ehh: I will say as a Muslim Im getting tired of the terrorists doing al fatiha before they kill themselves. Which was made worse with the white woman pleading for life and her daughter's in the store. As if cacs didn't already fear monger enough against Muslims in this country :francis:
 

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Review: ‘Sicario: Day of the Soldado’ Blends War Movie and Western

"Alejandro also possesses nearly superhuman — if not outright supernatural — survival skills, and “Day of the Sodaldo,” for all its lean macho bluster, flirts with silliness as well as sentimentality."

Seems like elements of The Siege (1998) and something like Broken Arrow (1996) with Mexican cartels/organized crime....

Though I think even grouping Mexican criminal organizations with terrorism is really irresponsible, given the countries current climate.
You really dont think thats happening? Is ir irresponsible if its true?
 

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You really dont think thats happening? Is ir irresponsible if its true?

In all ways that truly matter, or define "accurate" this is NOT happening. And yes, it is irresponsible, or malicious, in the worst sense, if it is not typical Hollywood tone deafness, to market and sell a movie using the southern border as a gateway for terrorism. You see the way these Trump supporters are crying for blood when they think it's just immigrants and drug traffickers.
 

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Unpopular opinion, but this was a great sequel. It's not as nuanced as the first movie or as subtle, but when it hits, it really packs a punch. While it doesn't surpass the first one in many aspects, in some respects I think it's better. Particularly the humanization of immigrants and the children of these war games. The shots of the immigrants crossing the river and how they become commodities in a weird new slave trade, that was really powerful. I think it also did a great job of showing the parallels between the young boy losing his innocence and the young girl losing hers. They were hardly innocent at the start, but by the end you see just how far that line goes and what it does to kids baptized in this world. I also thought it was very clever the way the film used the children to expose the vulnerabilities and moral grayness in both of the leads. The characters played by Josh Brolin and Benicio del Toro aren't just caricature mercenaries motivated by money or revenge. In the first movie, that's kinda all they are and the only real innocent and pawn is Emily Blunt's character. This movie flips that and shows that even when Alejandro and Matt engage in this chess game, they really are pawns too. I really liked how they showed the toll is takes on them. It's not anything grand and there aren't any speeches, you see it in their facial expressions.

I was shocked by a few things, and I see what people are saying about Benicio's character becoming a superhero, but I thought what happened to him was just on the edge of believability. It was plausible enough to me not to take me out of the movie. My only gripe is that there were a few moments when it sorta dragged. The camera lingered too long, especially on the little girl. Sometimes it was effective, but sometimes it was just ok that's enough. lol. But overall, I really enjoyed this movie and think it was a worthy follow up to the first movie.

8.5/9 out of 10 for me.
 

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In all ways that truly matter, or define "accurate" this is NOT happening. And yes, it is irresponsible, or malicious, in the worst sense, if it is not typical Hollywood tone deafness, to market and sell a movie using the southern border as a gateway for terrorism. You see the way these Trump supporters are crying for blood when they think it's just immigrants and drug traffickers.

Did we watch the same movie. That whole premise was blown out of the water when
it was discovered that the terrorists were Americans from New Jersey. I actually thought that was some clever commentary on how we like to scapegoat immigrants instead of looking in our own backyard.
 

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Unpopular opinion, but this was a great sequel. It's not as nuanced as the first movie or as subtle, but when it hits, it really packs a punch. While it doesn't surpass the first one in many aspects, in some respects I think it's better. Particularly the humanization of immigrants and the children of these war games. The shots of the immigrants crossing the river and how they become commodities in a weird new slave trade, that was really powerful. I think it also did a great job of showing the parallels between the young boy losing his innocence and the young girl losing hers. They were hardly innocent at the start, but by the end you see just how far that line goes and what it does to kids baptized in this world. I also thought it was very clever the way the film used the children to expose the vulnerabilities and moral grayness in both of the leads. The characters played by Josh Brolin and Benicio del Toro aren't just caricature mercenaries motivated by money or revenge. In the first movie, that's kinda all they are and the only real innocent and pawn is Emily Blunt's character. This movie flips that and shows that even when Alejandro and Matt engage in this chess game, they really are pawns too. I really liked how they showed the toll is takes on them. It's not anything grand and there aren't any speeches, you see it in their facial expressions.

I was shocked by a few things, and I see what people are saying about Benicio's character becoming a superhero, but I thought what happened to him was just on the edge of believability. It was plausible enough to me not to take me out of the movie. My only gripe is that there were a few moments when it sorta dragged. The camera lingered too long, especially on the little girl. Sometimes it was effective, but sometimes it was just ok that's enough. lol. But overall, I really enjoyed this movie and think it was a worthy follow up to the first movie.

8.5/9 out of 10 for me.

Even mercenaries had a code, Matt is a real one for not giving up on Alejandro and to be fair, I doubt be would have pulled the trigger anyway.
 

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Did we watch the same movie. That whole premise was blown out of the water when
it was discovered that the terrorists were Americans from New Jersey. I actually thought that was some clever commentary on how we like to scapegoat immigrants instead of looking in our own backyard.

I have not seen it, I was speaking just to the marketing. If the movie doesn't show this, I am relieved, yet, I think the nuances would be lost on the greater American movie going population. Kind of like The Siege (1998), yeah the message in the END is that fascism and racism aren't the answer, but only after about 2 hours of middle eastern terrorists committing massacres across New York City.
 

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I'd say this is a worthy sequel to the first. Both governments ended up looking like some dumb fukks
America didn't get the origin of the terrorists until after they started the war in Mexico. :snoop: Mexican government clearly working with Reyes cartel which got Graver and Gillick ambushed. I liked that this movie was basically the origin of the young kid becoming a Sicario. dope set up for part 3 :ehh: I will say as a Muslim Im getting tired of the terrorists doing al fatiha before they kill themselves. Which was made worse with the white woman pleading for life and her daughter's in the store. As if cacs didn't already fear monger enough against Muslims in this country :francis:
Like brolin said, the other terrorists didnt matter. Once they knew the cartels helped one over, it was enough
 

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Unpopular opinion, but this was a great sequel. It's not as nuanced as the first movie or as subtle, but when it hits, it really packs a punch. While it doesn't surpass the first one in many aspects, in some respects I think it's better. Particularly the humanization of immigrants and the children of these war games. The shots of the immigrants crossing the river and how they become commodities in a weird new slave trade, that was really powerful. I think it also did a great job of showing the parallels between the young boy losing his innocence and the young girl losing hers. They were hardly innocent at the start, but by the end you see just how far that line goes and what it does to kids baptized in this world. I also thought it was very clever the way the film used the children to expose the vulnerabilities and moral grayness in both of the leads. The characters played by Josh Brolin and Benicio del Toro aren't just caricature mercenaries motivated by money or revenge. In the first movie, that's kinda all they are and the only real innocent and pawn is Emily Blunt's character. This movie flips that and shows that even when Alejandro and Matt engage in this chess game, they really are pawns too. I really liked how they showed the toll is takes on them. It's not anything grand and there aren't any speeches, you see it in their facial expressions.

I was shocked by a few things, and I see what people are saying about Benicio's character becoming a superhero, but I thought what happened to him was just on the edge of believability. It was plausible enough to me not to take me out of the movie. My only gripe is that there were a few moments when it sorta dragged. The camera lingered too long, especially on the little girl. Sometimes it was effective, but sometimes it was just ok that's enough. lol. But overall, I really enjoyed this movie and think it was a worthy follow up to the first movie.

8.5/9 out of 10 for me.

Same boat as u loved it
Think bullet went thru his cheek a certain way is why he survived
 

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dope dope movie
i could watch a million sequels of this lol

i dont even think you necessarily have to watch the first one to see this one

only time alejandro was super hero status was at the pit, thought everything else was completely plausible..

missed how much time had passed between alejandro surviving the pit and the kid becoming a full blown out thug, anyone remember?
wasnt too big on that last scene.. so the kid "kills" alejandro and then gets recruited by alejando? :heh: how could he ever be trusted? also, surely hes done a lot more fukked up shyt since the pit.. thought alejandro was gonna smoke him. idk just doesnt seem believable that alejandro would want to mentor him.. other than that everything else was dope.

oh yeah also kinda wasnt paying attention when josh brolin and his crew were heading back for the girl with the gps tracker, was the dude with the glasses glad alejandro had gotten killed? he made a comment about being glad they didnt have to do it now or something..
 

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dope dope movie
i could watch a million sequels of this lol

i dont even think you necessarily have to watch the first one to see this one

only time alejandro was super hero status was at the pit, thought everything else was completely plausible..

missed how much time had passed between alejandro surviving the pit and the kid becoming a full blown out thug, anyone remember?
wasnt too big on that last scene.. so the kid "kills" alejandro and then gets recruited by alejando? :heh: how could he ever be trusted? also, surely hes done a lot more fukked up shyt since the pit.. thought alejandro was gonna smoke him. idk just doesnt seem believable that alejandro would want to mentor him.. other than that everything else was dope.

oh yeah also kinda wasnt paying attention when josh brolin and his crew were heading back for the girl with the gps tracker, was the dude with the glasses glad alejandro had gotten killed? he made a comment about being glad they didnt have to do it now or something..
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