Shouting match between Zelensky and Trump

[CoryMack]

Go back and study and see how the Romans did it







Them nikkas were the biggest (pause) dikk on the block (globe) for a very long time

I have. Particularly the Second Punic War, and Caesar's Gallic Campaigns. I'm rereading T.A. Dodge's 'Hannibal' now.

Here's a quote describing the Romans: "Rome and all her officials were constantly on the outlook for opportunities for conquest; she always stuck her fingers in every pie, and never ceased to breed quarrels in order herself to benefit by eventual interference. She took sides with the weaker in order to weaken the stronger, and eventually to subdue both. Everything was justifiable which led to its end...Rome could be patient under adversity, and bide her time; but once at war, she carried on war with all her might; once victorious, her opponent was ground into the dust...It has been observed that the statecraft of heathen Rome, from the founding of the city till the fourth century A.D., and of Christian Rome, from the sixth century A.D till the present day, has always been the same - a Jesuitical statecraft, and a wonderfully able one."

when you study american history, and especially this situation with ukraine, this is it to a T.

 

[JamesJabdi]

You can look at it that way, or you can say what trump showed was how power looks when you strip away all the pretense and bullshyttin.

As I said in an earlier post, if trump/usa/israel/the west (basically those with the power) would talk to one of their own, who doesn't have power, in that way, can you imagine how they talk to us behind closed doors? When there's trillions of dollars of mineral wealth at stake and a whole standard of living in the balance? Those two were supposed to be cutting a deal that would benefit the both of them. Think about how they talk when they're telling Black Heads of State that they're taking the wealth and not paying anything for it. And that they better get their people in line or else.

That's why Black people should be having quiet meetings all over the country right now, trying to figure out some way to get ourselves back into power. Enough power at first to keep our enemies off us, and then enough power to be able to speak that way to another world leader, if we so chose, and have the weight of a strong military behind it.

Not even behind closed doors....they be telling black folks that they better get in line in live streamed events....it just don't make the news like this because they always out here scolding black men. Black folks need to start uniting cause these CACs are out here taking all the wealth for they self while letting everybody starve.....this country needs a revolution.

 

[CoryMack]

Not even behind closed doors....they be telling black folks that they better get in line in live streamed events....it just don't make the news like this because they always out here scolding black men. Black folks need to start uniting cause these CACs are out here taking all the wealth for they self while letting everybody starve.....this country needs a revolution.

oh i know. i read an old digital edition of i believe it was the saturday evening post, years ago. old paper started putting out issues in the 1820's, and back then they talked much more plainly about the racial situation in this country and abroad.

i always remember the article talking about, or asking why can't the Blacks in this country be satisfied to excel in athletics and acting and singing, because we do that well. then there was a quote saying, and i'm paraphrasing, that so long as we knew our place, our place was secure, but as soon as we became competitors our fate was sealed.

 

[JamesJabdi]

Are you keeping up with the news? Trump was always gonna hang Ukraine out to dry. Look at the support the Eu regions have pledged to Ukraine after that shytshow.

Zelensky did exactly what he needed to do. It was his best hand to play. And now Trump is fuming because the rest of the world is filling the void the US would have left.



Holy shyt.... Why are these clowns allowed to post on this forum. That is an insane amount of deepthroating.... Thanks for pointing that mf out. Gotta ignore some of these fools on here man.

What void you babbling about? US has spent more money on Ukraine then any other country.....good luck filling that void and it wasn't good thing for Zelensky to ruin relationship with the US and move this administration further to Russia

 

[Elim Garak]

 

[DrHackenbush]

What void you babbling about? US has spent more money on Ukraine then any other country.....good luck filling that void and it wasn't good thing for Zelensky to ruin relationship with the US and move this administration further to Russia

If dude really gave a fukk about his country he wouldn't have alienated his strongest ally over his own pride and ego. People in this thread caping for this idiot because "they shouted at him and were mean to him because he wasn't wearing a suit"

He didn't have to like the way things went, he was there to try and negotiate for his countrymen as best he could and he fukked it up by acting like a petulant little bytch. He had 0 leverage in that scenario

 

[In The Zone '98]

Zelensky gotta put on for his country and threaten everybody

fukk all that civility in broken English

 

[CoryMack]

If dude really gave a fukk about his country he wouldn't have alienated his strongest ally over his own pride and ego. People in this thread caping for this idiot because "they shouted at him and were mean to him because he wasn't wearing a suit"

He didn't have to like the way things went, he was there to try and negotiate for his countrymen as best he could and he fukked it up by acting like a petulant little bytch. He had 0 leverage in that scenario

crazy thing is alotta those same dudes will talk about how adept they are at code switching or "playing the game" at their jobs with their colleagues and bosses. and that's just for promotions or to stay on good terms.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

I'm just wondering how far Europe will go to keep the ball rolling for Ukraine. I've seen the UK imply they'd put boots on the ground. I've seen Germany say no. I think they'd be willing to spend a bit more on weapons and aid but that's about it.

 

[JamesJabdi]

If dude really gave a fukk about his country he wouldn't have alienated his strongest ally over his own pride and ego. People in this thread caping for this idiot because "they shouted at him and were mean to him because he wasn't wearing a suit"

He didn't have to like the way things went, he was there to try and negotiate for his countrymen as best he could and he fukked it up by acting like a petulant little bytch. He had 0 leverage in that scenario

I thought it was an ambush at first but was suprised to learn Zelensky wanted this and he basically tried to son an ego maniac like Trump...like what was the plan ..you even had the french and British leaders being on their best behaviour in that same Office just a day before because he talked about putting tariffs on their countries.

I won't be suprised if Europe turn their back in Ukraine...they dont got the money to replace the aid giving by the US....Russia not looking like it will back down either...this is just insanity from leaders having an ego trip

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

This administration is so fukkin corrupted man. Pretending like a legitimate journalist asked him that when it’s just a MAGA cult in there

He hosts a Conservative news show. So he’s a legit journalist, but obviously set up to ask that question.

 

[JamesJabdi]

This is insane.....dude deadass saying lets keep this war going so that we can keep jobs.

How About using that money on more healthcare workers, building more housing and more teachers which would create jobs instead of feeding the American war machine

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This is insane.....dude deadass saying lets keep this war going so that we can keep jobs.

How About using that money on more healthcare workers, building more housing and more teachers which would create jobs instead of feeding the American war machine

Supporting Ukraine is cheaper than American soldiers being deployed to Europe to fight Russia.

Pacifism is not peace.

 

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