Should the Lakers trade Kobe?

[Mic-Nificent]

to be in the chicago united center rafters with mj and possibly win #6 with thibbs and rose.

kobe will lift that no trade clause. it almost happened before,...the bulls were just to inept to pull he trigger.


art barr

That's similar to that bullshyt Knicks fans was talking when they thought they was a lock to get Lebron James.

And lets not even compare the prestige of having a Jersey in the united center rafters compared to having TWO Jersey's hanging up in staples center.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

dawg,...boozer and noah are liabilities to kobe cause he will break their spirit like gasol. might as well let him operate with a low resigned asik and taj.

kobe is a mercenary to patch it up and await a returning rose after that season.

so it becomes :

rose
bean
butler
taj
asik

taj and asik can do exactly what noah and boozer to some extent every night than noah and boozer.

boozer is an off defensive liability,...plus noah, is great trade bait for theblakers. so they can figure out what to do with pau and bynum.

as the lakers move to a high bball iw built frontcourt team, regardless after the trade.

art barr

You just full of bullshyt today aint you? Gasol being soft and mentally fragile got jack shyt to do with Kobe. He had a reputation for that shyt back in Memphis. If anything playing with Kobe took a tone of pressure off of him.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

dawg,...boozer and noah are liabilities to kobe cause he will break their spirit like gasol. might as well let him operate with a low resigned asik and taj.

kobe is a mercenary to patch it up and await a returning rose after that season.

so it becomes :

rose
bean
butler
taj
asik

taj and asik can do exactly what noah and boozer to some extent every night than noah and boozer.

boozer is an off defensive liability,...plus noah, is great trade bait for theblakers. so they can figure out what to do with pau and bynum.

as the lakers move to a high bball iw built frontcourt team, regardless after the trade.

art barr

noah wouldn't break spirit under kobe, he's one of the best hustle/high motor 4/5 in the league

that WHOLE scenario would the be the act of going two steps forward and going 4 step back for the bulls. asik hasn't proven to be a legit 5 starter, with the offensive game to rank him as an elite/strong 5, so the bulls could bring in a bum 5. he hasn't warranted that status yet,

and the 3 spot gon be a nightmare with korver and butler splitting.

 

[Art Barr]

bulls will not tank under thibs.

this shyt is never happening. under no circumstances will the bulls trade deng/boozer/noah for kobe + filler

you are not in chicago and have not watched enough to know.

taj can do what boozer does and asik can do what noah does, minus energy.

if asik is given stabilizing minutes,...plus if you get kobe he can finally will himself in another quality system for a year, ala psycho bean era.

then he will fail and have to succumb to thibs culture...when rose comes back by default and it will be a contract year. where kobe has to win a title or take reduced pay. if kobe wins with rose after this trade,..kobe commands top dollar from the bulls and resigns.

if the bulls fail,..they can sign and trade kobe to some other squad for some pieces.

plus if the bulls do it right....they use some of the draft picks in this coming draft.

to put back what they could miss from noah, deng and boozer on the cheap, too.

so kobe gets to play with noobs and impose his will...to the non-detriment of the team while rose is out, in this next upcoming season.


art barr

 

[Art Barr]

wrong


Kobe objecting to Deng's inclusion in Bulls-Lakers trade - NBA - ESPN

first this bulls squad has a coaching culture that previous era did not have.

so regardless of the pr,..this is different.

kobe played on a self imposed spirit broken squad, this year.

that did not live up to what the lAkers were on paper.

nor what typical high quality bball elicits with their roster.

kobe totally defied high iq ball for his psycho bean two era this year.

breaking gasol a euro and bynum a black dude, spirit into dangerous levels of consitent low quality.

you trade kobe if you are the lakers,...as you have no coach available who can institute an identity to the lakers with kobe there.

in chicago,...kobe can impose his will or adhere to a system.

plus he can experiment as the only offensive option, in a rose absence.

for half of his remaining years contractually in the chi.

rose comes back plus the roster gets to play under kobe/thibs.

i also thjnk people are forgetting chicAgo has a few picks possibly in a decen draft to patch up the losses of deng, noah, boozer.

boozer has to go,..period, anyway.

you can get rid of noah if kobe is coming and the lakers will take noah.


art barr

 

[Art Barr]

That's similar to that bullshyt Knicks fans was talking when they thought they was a lock to get Lebron James.

And lets not even compare the prestige of having a Jersey in the united center rafters compared to having TWO Jersey's hanging up in staples center.

kobe already has a lock on two jerseys in the staples.

kobe would like to chase mj if the possibility arose.

this is that oppurtunity,...as the lakers will lose kobe.
or have to resign him to another large contract that makes them an early off loser once again.

gutting bynum And pau without comparable pArts in the frontcourt.

would really humanize the lakers even more than the spirit broken squad.

that just got humiliated for the second year in a row.


also,...the lakers need a new coach,..what coach is gonna wanna coach a broken spirit sqaud and culture with kobe, there.

plus no front court punch, if you keep the broken spirits of pau and bynum in a resigning or no trade.

kobe just failed with mike brown,...so you know as the lakers.

you can not win with kobe like bron did.

so you might as well blow it up,...because it is obvious pau and bynum are a lost cause spirit wise in brown's culture.


art barr

 

[Art Barr]

noah wouldn't break spirit under kobe, he's one of the best hustle/high motor 4/5 in the league

that WHOLE scenario would the be the act of going two steps forward and going 4 step back for the bulls. asik hasn't proven to be a legit 5 starter, with the offensive game to rank him as an elite/strong 5, so the bulls could bring in a bum 5. he hasn't warranted that status yet,

and the 3 spot gon be a nightmare with korver and butler splitting.

man,...you talking like ron-ron boi-boi was this incredible able bodied piece at the three.

if you are the bulls you get kobe and use your picks and thibs culture to make up the difference.

boozer is invisible on both sides of the ball in the off's,...so losing him is no big loss.

noah is the other prospect for the lakers to figure out what to do with pau.

if they do not resign bynum with kobe leaving,....

imo,..you resign bynum and let that like mike contract kobe got go somewhere else.

lakers would be:

razor
peace
deng
pau/boozer
bynum/noah

the lakers have room and can get any coach they want,..like jerry sloan to do well, with that sqaud.

right now,..kobe has at least five years left.

why pay him and let him ruin you chances to win. they will not win with kobe again at all,..they way this team is. the nba is to well coached and staffed and the lakers would be carting a kobe led squad out there that would fail.

this is the team zone d era of bball,..and last year proved it.

this year if the spurs win,...it will be another high iq fully staffed team that wins after them.

the idea of a lone superstar has been dead for a long time now.

kobe broke the spirit of the oher good team players on the lakers,..that it is at a point of no return.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

you are not in chicago and have not watched enough to know.

taj can do what boozer does and asik can do what noah does, minus energy.

if asik is given stabilizing minutes,...plus if you get kobe he can finally will himself in another quality system for a year, ala psycho bean era.

then he will fail and have to succumb to thibs culture...when rose comes back by default and it will be a contract year. where kobe has to win a title or take reduced pay. if kobe wins with rose after this trade,..kobe commands top dollar from the bulls and resigns.

if the bulls fail,..they can sign and trade kobe to some other squad for some pieces.

plus if the bulls do it right....they use some of the draft picks in this coming draft.

to put back what they could miss from noah, deng and boozer on the cheap, too.

so kobe gets to play with noobs and impose his will...to the non-detriment of the team while rose is out, in this next upcoming season.


art barr

i dont need to be in chicago to know - that shyt gonna work nor will it even be a thought of pax'.

if asik is given stabilising minutes? what? he's NOT gonna be a strong offensive 5 in immediate years nor is likely to be in the forthcoming years either. by the time he's even gonna get weight of an offensive game... kobe would've hit the floor.

kobe will fail with rose..... for the parts bulls have to part way with... they will fail.... there's no two ways around it.

they don;t have the weight in picks to gain back if they let go of boozer/deng/noah.

the bulls will not shell out on a declining sg for their starting frontcourt.... its just not gonna happen.. simple as that.

 

[Art Barr]

i dont need to be in chicago to know - that shyt gonna work nor will it even be a thought of pax'.

if asik is given stabilising minutes? what? he's NOT gonna be a strong offensive 5 in immediate years nor is likely to be in the forthcoming years either. by the time he's even gonna get weight of an offensive game... kobe would've hit the floor.

kobe will fail with rose..... for the parts bulls have to part way with... they will fail.... there's no two ways around it.

they don;t have the weight in picks to gain back if they let go of boozer/deng/noah.

the bulls will not shell out on a declining sg for their starting frontcourt.... its just not gonna happen.. simple as that.

you are talking like rose is healthy.

rose is out and real talk,..you need another sg, for rose ala cdr in memphis.

kobe is WAY Better than cdr and gets a year to see what he can do in thibs culture minus rose.

boozer and noah are system players, and so are taj and asik.

the bulls in rose's absence need a closer. why not get the best pr'd closer sjnce mj.

then see what happens in thibs culture with inferior parts, in rose's absemce with kobe.
the bulls have no way in hell of getting a closer, of any calibur close to rose other than kobe. plus the bulls when rose is healthy needs a real sg,..period.

a sg who is pedigree'd and a former scorer champion type. plus who will defer to rose and know when to take the initiatice.

kobe is that guy,....anything else is an also-ran fix.

why not get the best in the one year absence of your best closer, and leader.

kobe could be gotten,...if i was chicago i get it done.

la is ripe for the picking,......


art barr

 

[tremonthustler1]

i also thjnk people are forgetting chicAgo has a few picks possibly in a decen draft to patch up the losses of deng, noah, boozer.


art barr

They have ONE pick in this year's draft and only one additional pick that isn't their own coming in 2016.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

man,...you talking like ron-ron boi-boi was this incredible able bodied piece at the three.

if you are the bulls you get kobe and use your picks and thibs culture to make up the difference.

boozer is invisible on both sides of the ball in the off's,...so losing him is no big loss.

noah is the other prospect for the lakers to figure out what to do with pau.

if they do not resign bynum with kobe leaving,....

imo,..you resign bynum and let that like mike contract kobe got go somewhere else.

lakers would be:

razor
peace
deng
pau/boozer
bynum/noah

the lakers have room and can get any coach they want,..like jerry sloan to do well, with that sqaud.

right now,..kobe has at least five years left.

why pay him and let him ruin you chances to win. they will not win with kobe again at all,..they way this team is. the nba is to well coached and staffed and the lakers would be carting a kobe led squad out there that would fail.

this is the team zone d era of bball,..and last year proved it.

this year if the spurs win,...it will be another high iq fully staffed team that wins after them.

the idea of a lone superstar has been dead for a long time now.

kobe broke the spirit of the oher good team players on the lakers,..that it is at a point of no return.

this whole process you're hypothetically suggesting will set the bulls back further.

and you think pax gonna pay him and ruin the bulls chances of winning

the bulls 29th/end and the bobcat pick is NOT gonna make up the difference of the entire starting frontcourt, plus by the time they even gain weight on the difference.. kobe's time would've nearly ticked over....

its not a realistic option, stopppit. the bulls will not take on kobe's contract.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

you are talking like rose is healthy.

rose is out and real talk,..you need another sg, for rose ala cdr in memphis.

kobe is WAY Better than cdr and gets a year to see what he can do in thibs culture minus rose.

boozer and noah are system players, and so are taj and asik.

the bulls in rose's absence need a closer. why not get the best pr'd closer sjnce mj.

then see what happens in thibs culture with inferior parts, in rose's absemce with kobe.
the bulls have no way in hell of getting a closer, of any calibur close to rose other than kobe. plus the bulls when rose is healthy needs a real sg,..period.

a sg who is pedigree'd and a former scorer champion type. plus who will defer to rose and know when to take the initiatice.

kobe is that guy,....anything else is an also-ran fix.

why not get the best in the one year absence of your best closer, and leader.

kobe could be gotten,...if i was chicago i get it done.

la is ripe for the picking,......


art barr

why are you relating this situation to rose/douglas-roberts tigers era....

you talk'n bout the need of a closer... when the starting 5 of: watson/bean/korver/taj/asik + scrubs like its gonna put bulls in a position to win on the regualr

you talk'n bout the need of a closer...... when the bulls will not have bench mob to suffice leads back or even extend leads when the startin 5 are out.

you talk'n bout the need of a closer....... when you think the above starting 5 is gonna make up the offensive production that the bulls lose from deng/boozer/noah

 

[Art Barr]

They have ONE pick in this year's draft and only one additional pick that isn't their own coming in 2016.

another reason to send off deng, noah & boozer w/whatever particulars for the bean.

art barr

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

They have ONE pick in this year's draft and only one additional pick that isn't their own coming in 2016.

another reason to send off deng, noah & boozer w/whatever particulars for the bean.

art barr

plus if the bulls do it right....they use some of the draft picks in this coming draft.

to put back what they could miss from noah, deng and boozer on the cheap, too.r

 

[Art Barr]

why are you relating this situation to rose/douglas-roberts tigers era....

you talk'n bout the need of a closer... when the starting 5 of: watson/bean/korver/taj/asik + scrubs like its gonna put bulls in a position to win on the regualr

you talk'n bout the need of a closer...... when the bulls will not have bench mob to suffice leads back or even extend leads when the startin 5 are out.

you talk'n bout the need of a closer....... when you think the above starting 5 is gonna make up the offensive production that the bulls lose from deng/boozer/noah

with rose out,....you have kobe,....

what part about that don't you understand.

so the bulls should tank nezt season and not get the one piece they really need, in an sg for rose. for three easily replaceable parts in noah/booz/deng,...

those three players are easily replaceable,....

you don't get a chamce to get a kobe every season.

in the wake of the questionmark of rose's absence.

you trade those three and particulars for kobe,..period!!

art barr