Shedeur Sanders vs Caleb Williams as NFL prospects
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Lakerman0834
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Caleb and it ain’t even close at this point.
Caleb is better but i prefer shadeur.
West Coast Avenger
West Coastin & Smokin
I havent seen Shedeur do what Caleb does....Caleb is on another level....Shedeur is a great QB but they are not on the same level....
firemanBk
The Manslayer
I like Shedeur's pocket presence and patience a lot along with his accuracy but the gap in athleticsm is massive and that's what puts Caleb above anyone else in the country RN by a fair margin too
Tony D'Amato
It's all about the inches
Shadeur is Jameis Winston. Caleb is Mahomes with a faster 40
Stans are insane man.
Setting Shedeur up for unnecessary slander. He'll be lucky to go in the 1st round.
If he inherited Deion's athleticism maybe this could've been a reasonable debate.
IIVI
Superstar
Caleb is better, but I don't think many of the other teams are going to feel bad for not getting the #1 pick with all the talent that's available.
It's not a 1 QB draft imo.
At the end of the day, Mahomes still had an incredible structure around him as well from Andy Reid to Alex Smith. Mahomes is basically a culmination of a lot of talent coming together to build him up combined with his own mental and physical ability. Situation really counts for a lot.
That's one thing I like about Sanders here, his pedigree with Brady and his dad may actually account for a lot at the next level, kind of like how it did for the Mannings.
Like I mentioned additionally, Peyton Manning is still the record holder for most touchdowns thrown in a single season and he could barely throw a 50 yard pass at that point because of his neck. Every single QB in the league right now has more arm strength than Manning that year had. That display goes to show great QB's and really what separates the greats from anybody is they know how to win with their current ability more so than any physical talents they have.
Greats no matter the field know their strengths and know their weaknesses. They know how to make you play their game, play into their strengths and into your weaknesses. That's why billion-dollar advanced fighter jets can get their asses handed to them in training because the opponent knows the capabilities of both planes very well and how to expose weaknesses during a critical situation. That's why Prime Mike Tyson knocked out taller strong fighters. That's what all the great QB's do from some average-armed QB's like Brees and Peyton to cannon arms like Brady and Mahomes. They know what they can and can't do, know how to do it well and more times than not do the former when it comes time. We don't really know who has that though until we see them break teams down in the league and expose what defenses are giving them. The league is still the best of the best of the best - can they play those high-level chess games with those players and coaches?
In hindsight, the guy was completely right about the skill transferring over to the Pac 12.
It's hard for me to watch that breakdown and say if Sanders went to a great offensive-minded head coach and/or OC that dude wouldn't dominate. I think because of his pre/post-snap processing and football IQ, Sanders can be special in the right system. If he's not taken early, I can 100% see a team like Washington, Atlanta or Minnesota pull the trigger.
Come to think of it, I'd love to see another Sanders landing in Atlanta, especially with Bijan
It's not a 1 QB draft imo.
At the end of the day, Mahomes still had an incredible structure around him as well from Andy Reid to Alex Smith. Mahomes is basically a culmination of a lot of talent coming together to build him up combined with his own mental and physical ability. Situation really counts for a lot.
That's one thing I like about Sanders here, his pedigree with Brady and his dad may actually account for a lot at the next level, kind of like how it did for the Mannings.
Like I mentioned additionally, Peyton Manning is still the record holder for most touchdowns thrown in a single season and he could barely throw a 50 yard pass at that point because of his neck. Every single QB in the league right now has more arm strength than Manning that year had. That display goes to show great QB's and really what separates the greats from anybody is they know how to win with their current ability more so than any physical talents they have.
Greats no matter the field know their strengths and know their weaknesses. They know how to make you play their game, play into their strengths and into your weaknesses. That's why billion-dollar advanced fighter jets can get their asses handed to them in training because the opponent knows the capabilities of both planes very well and how to expose weaknesses during a critical situation. That's why Prime Mike Tyson knocked out taller strong fighters. That's what all the great QB's do from some average-armed QB's like Brees and Peyton to cannon arms like Brady and Mahomes. They know what they can and can't do, know how to do it well and more times than not do the former when it comes time. We don't really know who has that though until we see them break teams down in the league and expose what defenses are giving them. The league is still the best of the best of the best - can they play those high-level chess games with those players and coaches?
In hindsight, the guy was completely right about the skill transferring over to the Pac 12.
It's hard for me to watch that breakdown and say if Sanders went to a great offensive-minded head coach and/or OC that dude wouldn't dominate. I think because of his pre/post-snap processing and football IQ, Sanders can be special in the right system. If he's not taken early, I can 100% see a team like Washington, Atlanta or Minnesota pull the trigger.
Come to think of it, I'd love to see another Sanders landing in Atlanta, especially with Bijan
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Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
Sheduer has ability there's no question about that but let's pump the brakes. Caleb Williams has been a top prospect for a couple years now.
As much as I like Sheduer, Caleb is better at literally everything….every measurable attribute.
We need to be figuring out where Sheduer fits amongst Maye, Penix, Nix, Ewers, JJ ect
I personally think he’s behind Maye if he looks solid against Oregon. That probably makes him a top 8 pick.
We need to be figuring out where Sheduer fits amongst Maye, Penix, Nix, Ewers, JJ ect
I personally think he’s behind Maye if he looks solid against Oregon. That probably makes him a top 8 pick.
Caleb Williams is going to be a bust
Womb Raider
movin' thru the city streets
Caleb is better but ima Shedeur fan
Th3G3ntleman
Superstar
If all that scrambling and running around in the pocket shyt works like it does for Mahomes in the league than Caeleb for sure.
Lucky_Lefty
Dreams Are Colder Than Death...
Maye, Penix and Ewers are all better.